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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 15:53:15 GMT
Nessie wrote: Suuuuuure, 300,000,000 lbs of wood, about 150,000 tons of seasoned firewood was delivered to Treblinka and not a soul noticed or remarked upon it. That is just soooooo believable. Secret trains in the dead of night brought the firewood and it was unloaded and hidden from view by the eeevul Narzis. That's about 150 trainloads of 50 boxcars (40 and 8s). Makes perfect sense...in holyhoax la-la land.
Indeed, the movement of wood by trains was such an unusual and rare occurrence in Poland in the 1940s, that people would travel hundreds of miles to marvel at such a wonder. 
Fact is, the transport of wood is not odd at all and people would be far more interested in the transport of people crammed, suffering, in boxcars. Now that is notable.
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Post by Ulios on Mar 22, 2022 16:45:23 GMT
Nessie wrote: Suuuuuure, 300,000,000 lbs of wood, about 150,000 tons of seasoned firewood was delivered to Treblinka and not a soul noticed or remarked upon it. That is just soooooo believable. Secret trains in the dead of night brought the firewood and it was unloaded and hidden from view by the eeevul Narzis. That's about 150 trainloads of 50 boxcars (40 and 8s). Makes perfect sense...in holyhoax la-la land. Indeed, the movement of wood by trains was such an unusual and rare occurrence in Poland in the 1940s, that people would travel hundreds of miles to marvel at such a wonder. Fact is, the transport of wood is not odd at all and people would be far more interested in the transport of people crammed, suffering, in boxcars. Now that is notable.
Another could've been with no evidence from the evidence preacher. However, the evidence from wiernik et al state that twigs and shrub were used in small quantities. Stick with the narrative or sprout this in your own exrement pit. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 17:18:20 GMT
Indeed, the movement of wood by trains was such an unusual and rare occurrence in Poland in the 1940s, that people would travel hundreds of miles to marvel at such a wonder.  Fact is, the transport of wood is not odd at all and people would be far more interested in the transport of people crammed, suffering, in boxcars. Now that is notable.
Another could've been with no evidence from the evidence preacher. However, the evidence from wiernik et al state that twigs and shrub were used in small quantities. Stick with the narrative or sprout this in your own exrement pit. Quote Wiernik claiming twigs and shrubs were used to start the pyres. Go on, evidence that claim.
Heinrich Gley said "The rails were placed on top of big rocks and narrow gauge rails served as a cross-mesh. The cremation surface could take about 200 corpses. First a wood fire was kindled under the iron grate." He has a smaller number of bodies for each burn and wood was used to start the pyre.
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Post by Ulios on Mar 22, 2022 17:39:58 GMT
Heinrich Gley said "The rails were placed on top of big rocks and narrow gauge rails served as a cross-mesh. The cremation surface could take about 200 corpses. First a wood fire was kindled under the iron grate." He has a smaller number of bodies for each burn and wood was used to start the pyre. This is where the whole thing falls apart. The suggestion is strong that the bodies burn by themselves. This is nonsense. Unless there is something else to add shut up. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 18:11:50 GMT
Heinrich Gley said "The rails were placed on top of big rocks and narrow gauge rails served as a cross-mesh. The cremation surface could take about 200 corpses. First a wood fire was kindled under the iron grate." He has a smaller number of bodies for each burn and wood was used to start the pyre. This is where the whole thing falls apart. The suggestion is strong that the bodies burn by themselves. This is nonsense. Unless there is something else to add shut up. The wood under the metal grate is set on fire. The wood burns to embers at up to 1000 degrees, drawing in air to keep burning.
The heat from the wood dries the bodies out and sets the fat in the bodies on fire. The fire cremates the bodies, but it is not a complete to ashes cremation, as seen at Ohrdruf.
Unless you have something to add, you should shut up!
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Post by Ulios on Mar 22, 2022 18:20:59 GMT
The heat from the wood dries the bodies out and sets the fat in the bodies on fire.The fire cremates the bodies, You make it out as though the bodies are damp towels being dried. Each body contains at least 40 litres of water that has to be evaporated before combustion can start. This takes close to 100 megajoules of heat energy. 200 bodies have 8000 litres, which is the equivalent of 80 average baths. This evaporation would take 800 thousand megajoules. At minimum this would entail burning 8 tonne of wood. This is not a small fire lit underneath with wood. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 19:31:34 GMT
The heat from the wood dries the bodies out and sets the fat in the bodies on fire.The fire cremates the bodies, You make it out as though the bodies are damp towels being dried. Each body contains at least 40 litres of water that has to be evaporated before combustion can start. This takes close to 100 megajoules of heat energy. 200 bodies have 8000 litres, which is the equivalent of 80 average baths. This evaporation would take 800 thousand megajoules. At minimum this would entail burning 8 tonne of wood. This is not a small fire lit underneath with wood. How did the Ohrdruf pyre work? |
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Post by Agandaur on Mar 22, 2022 20:34:50 GMT
How did the Ohrdruf pyre work? Clearly they didn't these are charred corpses not cremated ones.  Charred corpses on a pyre at Ohrdruf. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 20:49:28 GMT
Pull that pyre apart to bury the remains, and you would end up with a mix of ashes and larger identifiable remains, as found at TII in 1945.
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Post by Agandaur on Mar 22, 2022 21:02:59 GMT
Pull that pyre apart to bury the remains, and you would end up with a mix of ashes and larger identifiable remains, as found at TII in 1945. How do you know this?, the bodies are charred not cremated. What you have said above is without evidence of this happening to these corpses. You have made the usual assumptions with a definite lack of knowledge. If you said "it is likely that blah blah TII in 45" that would be more reasonable than pompous assertions without foundation. |
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 22, 2022 23:21:13 GMT
Really? Numbered and sequenced photos taken in situ of skeletal remains? Photos and samples of the dark and smelly earth? Rajchman's graves and stockpiled ex would have taken up most if not all of camp two and that was all dug up down to a depth of 30-40 feet? Nothing left but a huge area of disturbed ground? Gee, why don't I believe that? Maybe because it's pure bullshit.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 23, 2022 9:40:44 GMT
Those remains are the only bodies actually found by drill hole by Kola and Haimi. Human remains can also be in the form of cremains and decomposed remains, as found with the bore hole surveys. But given there are actual bodies there the rest is probably just sand and rubbish though. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 23, 2022 10:04:37 GMT
Pull that pyre apart to bury the remains, and you would end up with a mix of ashes and larger identifiable remains, as found at TII in 1945. How do you know this?, the bodies are charred not cremated. What you have said above is without evidence of this happening to these corpses. You have made the usual assumptions with a definite lack of knowledge. If you said "it is likely that blah blah TII in 45" that would be more reasonable than pompous assertions without foundation. When TII was surveyed in 1945, they found ash, cremains and larger identifiable human remains. That is what would be found if bodies were not fully cremated, as at Ohrdruf. |
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Post by Ulios on Mar 23, 2022 10:07:48 GMT
identifiable human remains. That is what would be found if bodies were not fully cremated, as at Ohrdruf. Ohdruff is charred bodies, far from burned through. Those bodies are not human remains but obviously intact corpses. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 23, 2022 10:10:23 GMT
identifiable human remains. That is what would be found if bodies were not fully cremated, as at Ohrdruf. Ohdruff is charred bodies, far from burned through. Those bodies are not human remains but obviously intact corpses. Which is why they found larger human remains at TII and there is evidence a rendering ball mill was used at Belzec. |
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