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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 22, 2022 0:27:44 GMT
Nessie wrote: So, the bodies were carbonized but left some stumps like a fire can do? Which parts were left? Heads? Feet? The bodies at Ohrdruf were still identifiable as bodies so they were just burnt around the edges. They were charred rather than cremated. Actual cremation takes exposure to a heat source for a fairly long period of time to completely dehydrate a corpse and let the tissue burn and the bones carbonize. That didn't happen at Ohrdruf. Claiming that a cadaver that's had it's epidermis and minor amounts of tissue burned away as being "burned around the edges" is an accurate description of the condition of the cadavers at Ohrdruf. You, of course, try to stretch that into being the same as the lies of Wiernik, Rajchman et al. Such sly little lies. Just because you don't know the full gorry details and exactly how the cremations worked, does not mean they did not happen. They are evidenced by multiple witnesses, physical remains and circumstantial evidence, which by all normal standards of evidence is sufficient to prove. None of which is better than hearsay when compared to what we actually have in hard evidence.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 22, 2022 0:28:21 GMT
Large pyres use correspondingly larger amounts of fuel. OK, so more wood was used at TII than at Orhdruf. No such wood use is evidenced.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 22, 2022 0:30:41 GMT
Nessie is apparently claiming that there were 1.5 million partially burned cadavers to be disposed of at A-B and ~850,000 such cadavers at Treblinka. Who knew? It was around 1 million cremated at A-B between the 5 Kremas and outdoor cremations at the Bunker gas chambers and next to Krema V.
Up to 840,000 were cremated at TII, but, if Belzec is anything to go by, many bodies were so decomposed that they were left in the graves.
In fact Belzec has 133 bodies in soporified state, much like in Sobibor. These remain unidentified and are buried haphazardly. Again proving it's a hoax by corroboration.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 9:01:09 GMT
Gimme' a effing break. Jeezus H, but the bizarre rantings of Rachel Auerbach. Such childish and unbelievable propaganda and that's the best you have. Giddoutahere! No, the Lucaskiewicz survey. Have you read the link?
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 9:03:06 GMT
Scroll down to "2. Polish Investigations and Forensic Examinations". The Poles did not trust the Soviets and many were still resisting Soviet control at that time. The Polish produced their own reports on the AR camps. Poland was a vassal state of Moscow, it was a communist country. It was not under full Soviet control in 1945. In any case, post Soviet Union, all the sites were surveyed and examined again, and the findings are the same as in 1945. The second surveys added more detail and finds.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 9:04:01 GMT
A rendering machine was used at Belzec and those who worked at A-B spoke of having to rake the ovens to break the corpses apart. At TII in 1945, the survey and excavations found larger body parts amongst the cremains. That is evidence of incomplete cremations, which still meant the Nazis had prevented body counts, identification and establishing cause of death. No such rendering machine was ever used at Belzec. It was neither purchased nor used nor found later. So stop lying Please evidence your claim.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 9:04:39 GMT
OK, so more wood was used at TII than at Orhdruf. No such wood use is evidenced. Please evidence that claim.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 9:05:17 GMT
It was around 1 million cremated at A-B between the 5 Kremas and outdoor cremations at the Bunker gas chambers and next to Krema V.
Up to 840,000 were cremated at TII, but, if Belzec is anything to go by, many bodies were so decomposed that they were left in the graves.
In fact Belzec has 133 bodies in soporified state, much like in Sobibor. These remain unidentified and are buried haphazardly. Again proving it's a hoax by corroboration. Please evidence those are the only human remains at those camps.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 22, 2022 10:27:56 GMT
No such wood use is evidenced. Please evidence that claim. The lack of wood cut down and used.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 22, 2022 10:28:51 GMT
In fact Belzec has 133 bodies in soporified state, much like in Sobibor. These remain unidentified and are buried haphazardly. Again proving it's a hoax by corroboration. Please evidence those are the only human remains at those camps. Those remains are the only bodies actually found by drill hole by Kola and Haimi.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 15:00:38 GMT
Please evidence that claim. The lack of wood cut down and used. Why do think they would only use the wood near to the camp? Why not just get wood delivered?
Erwin Lambert said "I went to Sobibor together with Lorenz Hackenholt, who was at that time in Treblinka. First of all, I went with Hackenholt to a sawmill near Warsaw. There Hackenholt ordered a big consignment of wood for reconstruction in Sobibor."
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 15:01:39 GMT
Please evidence those are the only human remains at those camps. Those remains are the only bodies actually found by drill hole by Kola and Haimi. Human remains can also be in the form of cremains and decomposed remains, as found with the bore hole surveys.
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 22, 2022 15:16:29 GMT
Nessie wrote: Jeezus H, but Nessie keeps returning to Lukaszkiewcz like a dog to his vomit. What can't you understand about Lukaszkiewcz not offering any proof of his findings? It was all, "Gee, lookee what I found". Then we have the idiotic claim that the giant mass graves somehow just disappeared. Went POOF and vanished into holyhoax la-la land. Give the Lukaszkiewcz idiocy a rest.
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 22, 2022 15:40:04 GMT
Nessie wrote: Suuuuuure, 300,000,000 lbs of wood, about 150,000 tons of seasoned firewood was delivered to Treblinka and not a soul noticed or remarked upon it. That is just soooooo believable. Secret trains in the dead of night brought the firewood and it was unloaded and hidden from view by the eeevul Narzis. That's about 150 trainloads of 50 boxcars (40 and 8s). Makes perfect sense...in holyhoax la-la land.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 15:50:19 GMT
Nessie wrote: Jeezus H, but Nessie keeps returning to Lukaszkiewcz like a dog to his vomit. What can't you understand about Lukaszkiewcz not offering any proof of his findings? It was all, "Gee, lookee what I found". Then we have the idiotic claim that the giant mass graves somehow just disappeared. Went POOF and vanished into holyhoax la-la land. Give the Lukaszkiewcz idiocy a rest. Lukaskiewicz's finds are corroborated by photos, witnesses and the later survey. He did not claim the original graves had disappeared to be replaced with undisturbed ground, which you idiotically suggest. He said that instead of finding mass graves, he found a large area of disturbed ground full of cremated remains.
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