Mass graves

What has been found by the camp surveys is consistent with the original graves being dug into to get bodies, the mixing and reburying of cremains and earth, covering over the site, demolishing buildings and burying everything except a couple of buildings for a guard, the post-war grave robbing and then in the 1960s, tidying the site and building a large memorial.

With all of that activity, it is no wonder neatly outlined rectangular ground disturbances have not been found.



What you have failed to take into account, is that by burying naked bodies, those bodies get compressed under the pressure of more bodies piled on top, into a mass of decomposed remains. The bodies buried at Katyn were clothed, but still showed how pressure causes the remains to be compressed. Far more bodies fit into a certain space that you think possible.



You are dodging that Mattogno reported that there was forensic testing of remains from Sobibor and they were found to be human.



Considering how much of TII could not be surveyed, due to the memorial, what was found is large areas of disturbed ground that proves the Nazis did a lot of digging at TII. If the memorial was not there, more disturbed ground would be found, as the existing areas are right next to the memorial. What has been found backs up witness claims of mass graves, stop pretending it does not.

Nessie is just flat lying about the evidence for mass graves. There are NO mass graves as described by the alleged eyewitnesses whether there were five graves, eleven graves or an unknown number of graves, CS-C may very well have found some pits at Treblinka but NOT anything even faintly resembling the volume necessary to contain the entire population of San Francisco.

Nessie wrote:

Nessie claims that the exhumations and mixing and reinterring of the cremains somehow shrunk the original graves. That claim is preposterous on a scale that leaves me gobsmacked.

The bodies at Katyn were discovered by the Germans in April, 1943. They had been buried for almost 3.5 years. Contrast that with Rajchman's claim of eleven graves. Bodies were buried for a total of seven (7) months or a grave filled every .64 months or a grave filled every 2.75 weeks. Hardly time for bodies to decompose and compress to the extent that the cadavers that had been buried for 3.5 years.

Quote and link to the chapter in Mattogno's book.

One 17X26 meter pit and some other rabbit holes don't constitute excavations in the tens of thousands of cubic meters. Wiernik's graves are inadequate to contain 700,000 cadavers and Rajchman's eleven graves are far too large to be hidden under the memorial.

Bottom line, despite all of Nessie's weasel dodging about "disturbed ground" no mass graves have been determined to exist at Treblinka. Finito. End of story.

Stop ignoring the massive memorial at TII, that means only a small part of the camp could be surveyed.



I have not made that claim. I have said what has been found is narrower than witness claims, which just means witnesses over estimated the widths of the graves. The depths cannot be determined, because they often went deeper than the GPR could go and the lengths cannot be determined because of the memorial that covers much of the site.



Naked bodies buried for months and under a lot of pressure from bodies buried on top of them, will have decomposed so that there was no space left.



You have been shown this before, stop pretending you know nothing about it. Page 115.

holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=19

"Diggings showed the
presence of ashes and of bone fragments mixed with ashes below a
layer of sand half a meter thick. Close to the eastern limit of the
camp a pit of chloride of lime, 20 by 15 m, was identified. Over the
whole area of the camp human bones can be found here and there.
The purpose of the camp can also be deduced conclusively from oth-
er results of the investigations. An opinion prepared by the institute
of forensic medicine at the Jagellonian University states that the
bones sent there for analysis were human bones. An opinion of the
institute of forensic medicine at Cracow indicates that the sand re-
moved from the diggings is mixed with bone ashes and fat."




A pit 17m by 26 m is not a rabbit hole.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363

"...several larger pits were recorded in areas suggested by witnesses as the locations of mass graves and cremation sites. One is 26m long, 17m wide and at least four metres deep, with a ramp at the west end and a vertical edge to the east. Another five pits of varying sizes and also at least this deep are located nearby. Given their size and location, there is a strong case for arguing that they represent burial areas."

It is merely your opinion that those areas of disturbed ground, plus what is under the memorial, is not enough to be the mass graves of TII.

There is archaeological evidence of large areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains only at the AR camps and Chelmno. That is quite a coincidence. Why only those camps?

Those bodies are being buried by the British. You have dodged my question.

Only TII, Belzec, Sobibor and Chelmno had large areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, where most of the rest of the camp had also been demolished and much of it buried or removed.