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Post by been_there on Jun 2, 2022 10:19:34 GMT
The vacant camps in White Russian, all 600 vacant. Exactly, they were vacant. If millions of Jews had not been murdered, they would be full. Vacant camps, death marches, millions of DPs — there is no contradiction here. No physically impossible hoax.Extermination camps with no evidence of bodies, no cremains, no requisite areas of disturbed earth for collossal mass-graves — that is sign of a physically impossible hoax.
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Post by been_there on Jun 2, 2022 12:01:38 GMT
Uh-huh, Nessie has "evidence" but can't come up with the order to commence the holyhoax that's implied by his "evidence". As Hilberg was forced to admit in the Zundle trial, there isn't any such order. And that does rather sum up how the H-hoax works: it claims to have abundant ’hard’ evidence, but when asked to produce it switches to ’anti-semite’ attack mode. And if we scrutinise the ’evidence’ for ourselves, it is revealed to be a mirage constructed out of a self-referential, circular-logic claim of bogus ”convergence”. 🤪
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Post by been_there on Jun 3, 2022 6:03:56 GMT
“All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force”.
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Post by been_there on Jun 6, 2023 6:40:17 GMT
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Post by been_there on Jun 8, 2023 13:01:18 GMT
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Post by been_there on Aug 6, 2023 19:48:39 GMT
HOLOCAUST So... How does the holocaust hoax — falsely claiming there was an attempted mass-murder of ALL Jews mainly by ’mass-gassing’ in ad hoc ’extermination’ camps, work? How does such a hoax work? How is it possible to fool so many people? And how and why would so many people go along with it? ISRAEL I suggest it works in a similar way to how the globally accepted hoax claiming that Israel is a peace-loving nation who only seeks to protect itself, but is surrounded by virulent anti-semites who ever since Israel’s inception have sought to destroy it and all its people purely and soley because they hate Jews. It works the same way that Israeli-supporting Jews worldwide claim they only want peace but ”have no partner for peace, works”! For decades the vast majority of the world’s population believed those deception also. For decades all the main-stream media and all the governments of Europe and North America went along with and perpetuated that deception. So... How did and still does that hoax ’work’? How did world opinion get so manipulated as to believe that deception and accept the almost exact opposite of reality viz. to view the victims of Jewish zionist oppression and genocide as the perpetrators? BLOOD LIBEL I suggest it worked in a similar way, to how the mountain of corroborative evidence from different times and on different continents of a bizarre Jewish cult that down through the centuries kidnapped and tortured a gentile, male child and collected his blood before murdering him for some wierd and perverted Jewish passover ritual was suppressed and still is suppressed. As recently as 1911, a 13-year-old boy named Andriy Yushchinskyi was subjected to this perverted and sadistic ritual. His abduction was witnessed and murder became well-known world-wide, and is referred to as the "Beilis affair". Sir Richard Burton researched and wrote a detailed account of another such fairly recent instance. An account that has been purchased and kept from the public by a British Jewish organisation. His book is called ’Human sacrifice among the Sephardine or the Eastern Jews’ and it details an incident of this murderous blood ritual in Damascus in 1840. Yet the Wikipedia article on Burton doesn’t even mention the work nor the controversy it caused then, nor again in 2001 when it was put up for auction [ link]. How did that centuries long ’hoax’ work? Anything detailing the huge amount of evidence is silenced by reviling it in the minds of the masses as repetition of a totally unevidenced and repulsive hate-trope called ’the blood libel’.ANTI-SEMITISM ACCUSATION I suggest the way all these suppressions of contradictory opinions and facts are perpetuated is by demonising ANY objective analysis that Jewish organisations regard as unfavourable by calling it ’hateful, wicked, anti-semitism’. CENSORSHIP That is how the silencing and attempt to discredit the facts that Sir Richard Burton and others collected regarding minority, Jewish blood-sacrifices, works. MURDER OF MARY PHAGAN That is how the silencing and attempt to discredit the facts regarding the attempted rape and then murder of a lowly factory worker by the wealthy, influential Jewish manager Leo Frank and the concerted Jewish communities attempt to corrupt the course of justice, works. Jewish-controlled Wikipedia is now falsely claiming the current ”consensus of historians ”regards his conviction as ”a miscarriage of justice”. The ADL ( The Anti-Defamation League) is a Jewish organisation that was created to misrepresent the facts concerning that convicted murderer, the Jew Leo Frank. HOLOCAUST REVISION That is how the silencing and attempt to discredit the facts that Paul Rassanier, Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf and Vincent Reynoard have highlighted regarding the WW2 Jewish experience in eastern Europe, works. ISRAELI RACISM AND GENOCIDE: That is how the silencing and attempt to discredit the facts that George Galloway, Ilian Pappe, Prof Norman Finkelstein and now Pink Floyd's Roger Waters have made well-known regarding Israeli racist brutality and murder, works. NAKBA That is how the attempted silencing and attempt to discredit the facts that have recently been dramatised in a Netflix film called ’FARHA’ were conducted. It is a film about a 14 year Palestinian Village girl who experienced what is called the NAKBA and which therefore makes her a ’ SURVIVOR’ of the Israeli attempt at genocide and ethnic-cleansing for Jew-only lebensraum. You can read about that failed attempt at censorship here: link
I suggest all these attempts at perpetuating hoaxes are now unravelling.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 7, 2023 13:32:03 GMT
HOLOCAUST So... How does the holocaust hoax — falsely claiming there was an attempted mass-murder of ALL Jews mainly by ’mass-gassing’ in ad hoc ’extermination’ camps, work? How does such a hoax work? How is it possible to fool so many people? And how and why would so many people go along with it? ISRAEL I suggest it works in a similar way to how the globally accepted hoax claiming that Israel is a peace-loving nation who only seeks to protect itself, but is surrounded by virulent anti-semites who ever since Israel’s inception have sought to destroy it and all its people purely and soley because they hate Jews. It works the same way that Israeli-supporting Jews worldwide claim they only want peace but ”have no partner for peace, works”! For decades the vast majority of the world’s population believed those deception also. For decades all the main-stream media and all the governments of Europe and North America went along with and perpetuated that deception. So... How did and still does that hoax ’work’? How did world opinion get so manipulated as to believe that deception and accept the almost exact opposite of reality viz. to view the victims of Jewish zionist oppression and genocide as the perpetrators? World opinion is split on Israel. How can a hoax survive, when so many people and countries are anti-Israeli? The Arab world has immense wealth and influence, but nothing substantial has come from it to prove the Holocaust is a hoax and what did happen. That hoax does not reflect the scale required to hoax the Holocaust and specifically the mass gassing of c2.6 million people and shooting of another c2 million. Holocaust revisionism uses various anti-Semitic tropes, such as Jews act together, they are manipulative, have the power to control governments, universities and the media and they are motivated by money. That and the blatant anti-Semitism of many revisionists, is what generates the accusations. Holocaust revisionists will also censor contrary views. The censoring that revisionism has encountered, is due to its unevidenced claims. Revisionists will deny that, but then they fail to provide any evidence as to what did happen, or of the hoax they allege. Relevant facts are from eyewitnesses, documents, archaeology etc. None of the people you named have provided any facts to prove what did happen. History is the study of what did happen, not what did not happen. The unravelling of a Holocaust hoax would happen with evidence such as witnesses coming forward to say what did happen, archaeologists finding no traces of mass murder at the locations they are alleged to have taken palce, or documents detailing millions of Jews still alive in 1945. You have failed to consider what is needed on a practical level to sustain the hoax.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 7, 2023 14:24:20 GMT
Exactly, they were vacant. If millions of Jews had not been murdered, they would be full. Vacant camps, death marches, millions of DPs — there is no contradiction here. No physically impossible hoax.Vacant camps are the opposite of what would be expected if millions had not been killed. Death marches of tens of thousands, mean we know where those people were in 1945, which leaves millions unaccounted for. You have not answered why the Nazis would hide alive people they were being accused of killing, let alone how they did it. You make that sound as if archaeologists surveyed the camp sites and found little to no evidence of disturbed ground and cremated remains. in 1945, Lukasiewicz traced 2 hectares of disturbed ground up to 7m deep, containing cremated identifiable human remains and ashes, which is 140,000m3, or space for 56 Olympic sized swimming pools. In 1997 Kola traced 21,000m3 or space for 8.4 Olympic pools. By basic calculations, they are huge areas, far larger than any other known example of buried remains anywhere in the world. What we see here is how the revisionist hoax works, misunderstanding of and lying about the evidence. By doing that, revisionists mistakenly convince themselves there is insufficient evidence to prove mass murders.
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Post by been_there on Aug 7, 2023 15:35:28 GMT
HOLOCAUST So... How does the holocaust hoax — falsely claiming there was an attempted mass-murder of ALL Jews mainly by ’mass-gassing’ in ad hoc ’extermination’ camps, work? How does such a hoax work? How is it possible to fool so many people? And how and why would so many people go along with it? … [snip]… BLOOD LIBEL I suggest it worked in a similar way, to how the mountain of corroborative evidence from different times and on different continents of a bizarre Jewish cult that down through the centuries kidnapped and tortured a gentile, male child and collected his blood before murdering him for some wierd and perverted Jewish passover ritual was suppressed and still is suppressed. As recently as 1911, a 13-year-old boy named Andriy Yushchinskyi was subjected to this perverted and sadistic ritual. His abduction was witnessed and murder became well-known world-wide, and is referred to as the "Beilis affair". Sir Richard Burton researched and wrote a detailed account of another such fairly recent instance. An account that has been purchased and kept from the public by a British Jewish organisation. His book is called ’Human sacrifice among the Sephardine or the Eastern Jews’ and it details an incident of this murderous blood ritual in Damascus in 1840. Yet the Wikipedia article on Burton doesn’t even mention the work nor the controversy it caused then, nor again in 2001 when it was put up for auction [ link]. How did that centuries long ’hoax’ work? Anything detailing the huge amount of evidence is silenced by reviling it in the minds of the masses as repetition of a totally unevidenced and repulsive hate-trope called ’the blood libel’.ANTI-SEMITISM ACCUSATION I suggest the way all these suppressions of contradictory opinions and facts are perpetuated is by demonising ANY objective analysis that Jewish organisations regard as unfavourable by falsely calling it ’hateful, wicked, anti-semitism’. CENSORSHIP That is how the silencing and attempt to discredit the facts that Sir Richard Burton and others collected regarding minority, Jewish blood-sacrifices, works. Further details of how these hoaxes work: not only did Jews purchase the Sir Richard Burton book of research into a recent case of what is falsely called an “unevidenced, anti-semitic, blood libel’ in order to conceal its contents from the world, but the same thing occurred with the diaries and war memoir of Doctor Josef Mengele. linkThey were purchased and have never been seen or mentioned again. These writings are quite unique in being the ONLY known written recording from a person who allegedly was an integral part of the Third Reich mass-gassing operation yet who wrote without any pressure to conform to the emerging, evolving, anti-German atrocity-propaganda ‘holocaust’ narrative. As Dr. Mengele lived incognito in a secret location, he was under no compulsion to write falsehoods in order to protect himself or his family. We presumably all here know that if the Doctor had written the slightest confirmation of the holocaust mass-gassing myth, then the anonymous purchaser/purchasers and main-stream media would have gone to great lengths to make that universally known.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 7, 2023 17:49:00 GMT
..... These writings are quite unique in being the ONLY known written recording from a person who allegedly was an integral part of the Third Reich mass-gassing operation yet who wrote without any pressure to conform to the emerging, evolving, anti-German atrocity-propaganda ‘holocaust’ narrative. As Dr. Mengele lived incognito in a secret location, he was under no compulsion to write falsehoods in order to protect himself or his family. .... The 1957 interview of Adolph Eichmann by former SS officer Willem Sassen, whilst both were safe in South America, is another example of a confession under no compulsion. www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-eichmann-tapes"During the trial, Eichmann denied knowing about the extermination of the Jews, but he told Sassen, “Had we put 10.3 million Jews to death, then I would be content and would say, ‘Good, we have destroyed the enemy.’” He admits, “It is a difficult thing to say, and I know I will be judged for it, but this is the truth.” “I didn’t care about the Jews deported to Auschwitz, whether they lived or died. It was the Fuehrer’s order: Jews who were fit to work would work, and those who weren’t would be sent to the Final Solution,” he says in one recording. When Sassen asks him if the Jews were to be eliminated or exterminated, Eichmann replies: “If that’s what I said, then yes.” Eichmann said an SS brigade commander told him they put “sprinklers in the showers that looked just like a showerhead,” and then they would “bring in the idiots and throw inside hydrogen cyanide.”
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Post by been_there on Aug 7, 2023 18:37:05 GMT
..... These writings are quite unique in being the ONLY known written recording from a person who allegedly was an integral part of the Third Reich mass-gassing operation yet who wrote without any pressure to conform to the emerging, evolving, anti-German atrocity-propaganda ‘holocaust’ narrative. As Dr. Mengele lived incognito in a secret location, he was under no compulsion to write falsehoods in order to protect himself or his family... The 1957 interview of Adolph Eichmann by former SS officer Willem Sassen, whilst both were safe in South America, is another example of a confession under no compulsion... [Sigh! 🤦♂️] That is not a ‘writing’, nor a “written record”, you nincompoop. The point Nessie is trying to obfuscate is that two false histories concerning Jews are being perpetuated by the purchasing of written accounts that expose the false histories, and then making sure no-one gets to read them.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 7, 2023 19:21:28 GMT
The 1957 interview of Adolph Eichmann by former SS officer Willem Sassen, whilst both were safe in South America, is another example of a confession under no compulsion... [Sigh! 🤦♂️] That is not a ‘writing’, nor a “written record”, you nincompoop. You are being condescending. Your posts keep on evidencing my claims about your behaviour. The 1957 interview was subsequently published and is therefore a written record. Even if Mengele did not mention gassings in his memoirs, that does not mean, therefore no gassings. If it is the case, then Mengele lied by omission. Churchill also did not mention gassings in his war memoirs, which does not logically mean there were no gassings. You claimed "These writings are quite unique in being the ONLY known written recording from a person who allegedly was an integral part of the Third Reich mass-gassing operation yet who wrote without any pressure...". I just corrected you, as Eichmann's interview is another and your attempt to claim it is not a "writing" is nonsense. Witness evidence comes from either the witness writing their own statement, or from an interview, which is transcribed and becomes part of the written record.
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Post by been_there on Aug 7, 2023 20:02:54 GMT
[Sigh! 🤦♂️] That is not a ‘writing’, nor a “written record”, you nincompoop. You are being condescending. Your posts keep on evidencing my claims about your behaviour. The 1957 interview was subsequently published and is therefore a written record. You claimed "These writings are quite unique in being the ONLY known written recording from a person who allegedly was an integral part of the Third Reich mass-gassing operation yet who wrote without any pressure...". I just corrected you, as Eichmann's interview is another and your attempt to claim it is not a "writing" is nonsense. Witness evidence comes from either the witness writing their own statement, or from an interview, which is transcribed and becomes part of the written record. The Eichmann audio recordings on tapes by Wassel are obviously not a ‘ written’ record. Eichmann did not write what is supposedly recorded there. The point remains that Jews purchased two written accounts and then concealed them in order to prevent humanity from knowing what is written there.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 8, 2023 7:12:26 GMT
You are being condescending. Your posts keep on evidencing my claims about your behaviour. The 1957 interview was subsequently published and is therefore a written record. You claimed "These writings are quite unique in being the ONLY known written recording from a person who allegedly was an integral part of the Third Reich mass-gassing operation yet who wrote without any pressure...". I just corrected you, as Eichmann's interview is another and your attempt to claim it is not a "writing" is nonsense. Witness evidence comes from either the witness writing their own statement, or from an interview, which is transcribed and becomes part of the written record. The Eichmann audio recordings on tapes by Wassel are obviously not a ‘ written’ record. Eichmann did not write what is supposedly recorded there. You are nit-picking to try and score points. Interviews are transcribed and are considered a written record. You are dodging the problem of Nazis safe in South America. Eichmann admitted to knowing about gassings and mass murders, to another Nazi, safe in South America, in 1957. The Nazis in South America had the opportunity to debunk the mass gassing claims, either through their knowledge of what happened at the death camps, for those, such as Stangl, who worked there, or to say where all the Jews not gassed were in 1944-5. That did not happen, despite no influence or coercion. How did the hoax survive all the Nazis in South America? The Burton book is irrelevant as evidence to what happened during WWII. It was not published because of its anti-Semitic content. Sometimes books never see the light of day due to controversy over their content. The Mengele memoirs, even if they do not mention gassings, that is not evidence of no gassings. The summaries of each journal, by the auction house selling them, suggest he did not write about his time at Auschwitz. www.alexautographs.com/auction-lot/the-hidden-journals-of-dr.-josef-mengele-curren_43348AC2A6 He may well have chosen to block out what had happened during his time there.
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Post by been_there on Aug 8, 2023 10:46:46 GMT
Whenever Israel goes on the rampage and starts one of its murderous operations, bombing and murdering the trapped people of Gaza and the West Bank, we repeatedly and regularly see a whole parade of world leaders and foreign secretaries on the ‘news’ portraying Israel as some kind of victim, justifying Israeli murder, maiming and destruction by claiming Israel has "every right to defend itself" from "attack" from "outside its borders" though they must know how this is a grotesque inversion of reality. Why would they put their names and reputations to such a grotesque, racist and murderous inversion of reality?
Why it is that leaders such as Bill Clinton, George Bush, Barry Obama, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, William Hague, Theresa May, Hilary Clinton, Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel and all the others parrot, this pro-Israeli inversion of reality so regularly? Why do they feel compelled to voice this deception, and do so in front of the TV cameras thereby allowing their own immoral complicity to be preserved for posterity?
Think about it... What powerful forces can be influencing them to so squander their historic credibilty so cheaply...?
When you can honestly and intelligently answer that, you are better prepared to understand how a hoax the proportion of the holocaust mass-gassing myth has been so universally accepted, parroted and perpetuated.
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