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Post by Nessie on Dec 4, 2021 10:43:38 GMT
Where do you get the quote you use in the OP? As for Wiernik, that plan has the railway line incorrectly marked, but his book "A Year in Treblinka" makes it clear that the camp he was at, was not at Malkinia. Israel Gutman (ed.), Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 4 vols., Macmillan, New York 1990, vol. 4, p. 1481-87. Please provide a link, scan or other way to see that, I want to know why in the OP, that the quote starts "(Treblinka)" as that use of brackets tells me, that is not the actual word used and it has been added. |
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Post by Nazgรปl on Dec 4, 2021 18:19:47 GMT
Please provide a link, scan or other way to see that, I want to know why in the OP, that the quote starts "(Treblinka)" as that use of brackets tells me, that is not the actual word used and it has been added. It says "the camp". It is definitive so there may be the following camps in the area:
- Treblinka
- Treblinka I (quarry)
- Treblinka II (judenlager)
- Treblinka III (Czerwony bor)
- Treblinka IV (Kosow Podlaski)
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Post by Nessie on Dec 4, 2021 18:36:30 GMT
The camp commonly referred to as TII, the Action Reinhardt death camp, is located on the spur line running to Treblinka labour camp. Any suggestion that the TII AR death camp is located elsewhere, is wrong.
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Post by Nazgรปl on Dec 5, 2021 1:50:16 GMT
The camp commonly referred to as TII, the Action Reinhardt death camp, is located on the spur line running to Treblinka labour camp. Any suggestion that the TII AR death camp is located elsewhere, is wrong. We are discussing Treblinka not Treblinka II; Treblinka II was the Judenlager next to the quarry full of Warsaw jews. No need to discuss this camp anymore. I think that Wierniks first map was correct in what he thought was an extermination area next to the Warsaw Bialystok line; this aligns with the independent Holocaust Encyclopedia entry which puts Treblinka at the Malkinia rail loop. |
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Post by Agandaur on Dec 5, 2021 3:53:29 GMT
Treblinka location Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, says: โThe camp was situated in a sparsely populated area near Malkinia, a railway station on the main Warsaw-Biaลystok line; the campโs precise location was 2.5 miles (4 km) north west of the village and railway stop of Treblinka. The site selected was heavily wooded and well hidden from view. The camp was laid out in a rectangle 1,312 feet wide by 1,968 feet long (400 x 600 m), gives a similar location, on the Warsaw to Bialystok main trunk line. The loop is only 1 km from the current Malkinia railway station and not 4 km (2.5 miles) as in the caption below. Yad Vashem says: Treblinka They are talking about the extermination camp Treblinka and not the Malkinia railway station. |
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Post by Nazgรปl on Apr 6, 2022 9:30:30 GMT
Eli Rosenberg eye witness said:
The Malkinia-Siedlce railway line is not a side track. From this statement it is clear that this Treblinka is not TII.
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