Post by Tribunus Laticlavius on Nov 6, 2021 21:31:02 GMT
It appears that the definition of Genocide is different to the definition of the Holocaust.
Genocide definition.
Article II (United Nations)
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
This is a much narrow definition of the term than public perception; it is identical to Article 6 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. Crimes against humanity are ratified in the Rome Statue, (Article 7).
The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court defines crimes against humanity in Article 7 which entered into force on 17 July 1998. Those interested in the history of the term genocide may refer to a previous post: what is the Holocaust.
The IMT tried 22 Germans as major war criminals on charges of conspiracy, crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. In twelve subsequent proceedings, the United States tried 183 German leaders in Nuremberg. None of the defendants were tried for Genocide.
Holocaust definition
Wiki, gives the following definition:
"The Holocaust, also known as the Shoah, was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Between 1941 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, around two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population."
While one can accept that Genocide of the Jews did occur according to the United Nations definition, the Holocaust definition appears to be "Genocide on steroids". It has been shown that a statistical anomaly in Jewish world population figures gives inflated population data just prior to WWII. (It is irrelevant whether this anomaly was fabricated or just poor data); almost everything about the "Jewish Genocide" has been exaggerated. Testimony which should have been included, such as Marian Olszuk at Treblinka has been deliberately omitted. It is clear that the investigations were biased. Many investigators were from the Główna Komisja Ścigania Zbrodni przeciwko Narodowi Polskiemu (Polish war crimes commission) who in reality were subordinate to the Soviet ChGK (Чрезвычайная Государственная Комиссия,) or Extraordinary Commission. It must be noted that this government commission were instrumental in the Soviet Katyn murder of 22 thousand Polish Officers cover-up. This commission fabricated false witness testimony resulting in the execution of innocent men.
If this commission can do that, then they can also fabricate much more damning evidence, especially considering they had a staff of 7 million (more if the Poles are included), the Soviet Secret Police at their disposal and totalitarian control over much of Europe.
These are facts; why they did this is open to speculation. On this basis one can deny the Holocaust but not deny the Jewish Genocide or the crimes against humanity. Being a Holocaust Denier is not antisemitic, it is a denial of the fabrications that have surrounded the true events like a cocoon. Those who support the Holocaust are complicit in the continuation of a myth. If the Holocaust was more aligned with the original formulation of Genocide then there would be few issues. I personally feel that the victims deserve the truth and not some mythical fabrication.
Genocide definition.
Article II (United Nations)
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
This is a much narrow definition of the term than public perception; it is identical to Article 6 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. Crimes against humanity are ratified in the Rome Statue, (Article 7).
The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court defines crimes against humanity in Article 7 which entered into force on 17 July 1998. Those interested in the history of the term genocide may refer to a previous post: what is the Holocaust.
The IMT tried 22 Germans as major war criminals on charges of conspiracy, crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. In twelve subsequent proceedings, the United States tried 183 German leaders in Nuremberg. None of the defendants were tried for Genocide.
Holocaust definition
Wiki, gives the following definition:
"The Holocaust, also known as the Shoah, was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Between 1941 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, around two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population."
While one can accept that Genocide of the Jews did occur according to the United Nations definition, the Holocaust definition appears to be "Genocide on steroids". It has been shown that a statistical anomaly in Jewish world population figures gives inflated population data just prior to WWII. (It is irrelevant whether this anomaly was fabricated or just poor data); almost everything about the "Jewish Genocide" has been exaggerated. Testimony which should have been included, such as Marian Olszuk at Treblinka has been deliberately omitted. It is clear that the investigations were biased. Many investigators were from the Główna Komisja Ścigania Zbrodni przeciwko Narodowi Polskiemu (Polish war crimes commission) who in reality were subordinate to the Soviet ChGK (Чрезвычайная Государственная Комиссия,) or Extraordinary Commission. It must be noted that this government commission were instrumental in the Soviet Katyn murder of 22 thousand Polish Officers cover-up. This commission fabricated false witness testimony resulting in the execution of innocent men.
If this commission can do that, then they can also fabricate much more damning evidence, especially considering they had a staff of 7 million (more if the Poles are included), the Soviet Secret Police at their disposal and totalitarian control over much of Europe.
These are facts; why they did this is open to speculation. On this basis one can deny the Holocaust but not deny the Jewish Genocide or the crimes against humanity. Being a Holocaust Denier is not antisemitic, it is a denial of the fabrications that have surrounded the true events like a cocoon. Those who support the Holocaust are complicit in the continuation of a myth. If the Holocaust was more aligned with the original formulation of Genocide then there would be few issues. I personally feel that the victims deserve the truth and not some mythical fabrication.
