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The Holocaust and WW2 were separate events, don't confuse the death tolls.

Post by ZionistLoverJew » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:50 pm

Huntinger wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:42 pm
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Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:37 pm
The Nazis and their collaborators killed millions of Jews in the Holocaust.
That is the story which is being disputed here. Many Jude died from disease and other war related issues. There is no hard evidence, just anecdotes of a holocaust. At the most Jude deaths only take up 5% of the total war deaths and really are not important, as tragic as it is for the individuals involved.
Are you seriously suggesting that the only evidence for the Holocaust is anecdotal? :lol:

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Post by Huntinger » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:55 pm

ZionistLoverJew wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:50 pm
Are you seriously suggesting that the only evidence for the Holocaust is anecdotal? :lol:

The Holocaust and WW2 were separate events, don't confuse the death tolls.
There is no hard evidence to suggest a holocaust, with the exception of Einsatz activity against partizani. The alleged Holocaust and WWII are indistinguishable and the alleged holocaust emerged from the fog of war. Not a single Jude was gassed. No one has presented the evidence of a single Jude eliminated in this manner.
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Post by Nessie » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:10 pm

ZionistLoverJew wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:50 pm
Huntinger wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:42 pm
ZionistLoverJew wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:37 pm
The Nazis and their collaborators killed millions of Jews in the Holocaust.
That is the story which is being disputed here. Many Jude died from disease and other war related issues. There is no hard evidence, just anecdotes of a holocaust. At the most Jude deaths only take up 5% of the total war deaths and really are not important, as tragic as it is for the individuals involved.
Are you seriously suggesting that the only evidence for the Holocaust is anecdotal? :lol:
Yes he is, he just says things to get attention. I have him on ignore as his attention seeking results in him making ever increasingly stupid statements.
The Holocaust and WW2 were separate events, don't confuse the death tolls.
There could not have been a Holocaust without WWII. The war provided cover for the Nazis to introduce the Einsatzgruppen and AR camps as part of the Final Solution and it is the mass shootings and gassings that turned a policy of cleansing into a genocide.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Post by Huntinger » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:27 pm

Nessie wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:10 pm

Yes he is, he just says things to get attention. I have him on ignore as his attention seeking results in him making ever increasingly stupid statements.
As of yet no one has presented any evidence apart from anecdotes. Everyone has been asked but all we get is eyewitness testimonies and nothing else.
The name Holocaust was an invention of Jude in the early 60s; prior to this it was simply a genocide. It is simply another Jude invention to make it all appear about them; stuff the 30 million Russian civilians that died in the conflict, only Jude are important. Guess what, they never were and never will be.
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Post by Turnagain » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:03 pm

ZionistLoverJew wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting that the only evidence for the Holocaust is anecdotal? :lol:
In that case, present us with some physical evidence. Some verified, laboratory tested human cremains or some GPR scans of the giant mass graves of the AR camps would do quite nicely. GPR scans should be by professionals with third party observers.

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Post by Nessie » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:50 am

Turnagain wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:03 pm
ZionistLoverJew wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting that the only evidence for the Holocaust is anecdotal? :lol:
In that case, present us with some physical evidence. Some verified, laboratory tested human cremains or some GPR scans of the giant mass graves of the AR camps would do quite nicely. GPR scans should be by professionals with third party observers.
ZLJ, Turnagain has asked for that evidence repeatedly and he has been repeatedly shown what evidence there is of cremains and the remains of mass graves. Don't bother asking him for physical evidence that there are no cremains or traces of mass graves, he will ignore you. Treblinka II is an obsession and he tries to turn every topic back to it, the cremains and graves.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Re: The Holocaust and WW2 were separate events, don't confuse the death tolls.

Post by Huntinger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:15 am

Nessie wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:50 am
ZLJ, Turnagain has asked for that evidence repeatedly and he has been repeatedly shown what evidence there is of cremains and the remains of mass graves. Don't bother asking him for physical evidence that there are no cremains or traces of mass graves, he will ignore you. Treblinka II is an obsession and he tries to turn every topic back to it, the cremains and graves.
In this world people are innocent until they are proved guilty. Now please show evidence of cremains etc. Even the Gestapo presumed people were innocent until evidence was found to justify internment.
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Post by Turnagain » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:21 am

Nessie wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:50 am
Turnagain wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:03 pm
ZionistLoverJew wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting that the only evidence for the Holocaust is anecdotal? :lol:
In that case, present us with some physical evidence. Some verified, laboratory tested human cremains or some GPR scans of the giant mass graves of the AR camps would do quite nicely. GPR scans should be by professionals with third party observers.
ZLJ, Turnagain has asked for that evidence repeatedly and he has been repeatedly shown what evidence there is of cremains and the remains of mass graves. Don't bother asking him for physical evidence that there are no cremains or traces of mass graves, he will ignore you. Treblinka II is an obsession and he tries to turn every topic back to it, the cremains and graves.
LMAO! IOW, there's no evidence for Treblinka as an extermination facility other than anecdotal. Proof that the hermetically sealed gas/vacuum chambers couldn't exist, the giant mass graves couldn't exist and the magic Jew barbeque couldn't exist is irrelevant. Hey, evidence contrary to the the holyhoax tale can't exist so it doesn't exist. If it happened, it was possible. You betcha', Nessie, I DO ask for proof that ~850,000 victims were gassed, buried, exhumed and cremated on the magic Jew barbeque and I have NEVER GOTTEN IT!

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Re: The Holocaust and WW2 were separate events, don't confuse the death tolls.

Post by Scott » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:25 am

Any European Jews who died during World War II cannot be separated from the context of that event.

In fact, we don't know how many Jews went missing after the war, let alone how many died.

In 2003, the Israeli demographer Prof. Sergio Della Pergola put the number of living Jewish "Holocaust Survivors" worldwide at just over a million.

Another contemporaneous survey, this one by a Manhattan policy researcher for victim restitution claims, Jacob Ukeles found only 688 thousand living Holocaust Survivors worldwide.

This begs the question of what it even means to be a "Holocaust Survivor."

If there were really nearly a million Holocaust Survivors worldwide still alive at the turn of the 21st century, one wonders:

Who did Hitler actually kill?

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Post by rollo the ganger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:06 am

Scott wrote:This begs the question of what it even means to be a "Holocaust Survivor."
Since it is alleged that the Nazis wanted to kill ALL the Jews of the world then any Jew, anywhere, born before 1945 can be considered a "Holocaust Survivor".

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