been-there wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:44 am
Please show the "physical evidence" proving that over 700,000 bodies were buried in mass-graves at Treblinka by 1942.
Nessie wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:55 am
Turnagain wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:16 pm
So, Nessie, are you claiming that you have PROOF of the mass graves or not? A simple "yes" or "no" will do quite nicely. Blather about photographs of "rectangles" or "disturbed ground" is irrelevant.
I have witness evidence, photographic evidence and physical evidence
, all of which you have already been shown.
I have repeatedly linked to the physical evidence available to me online. The prime sources are the two reports, from 1945 here;
and Staffs Uni work, most of which is detailed here;
https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf
http://blogs.staffs.ac.uk/archaeology/p ... treblinka/
It shows what was left behind by the Nazis after they closed the camp and razed it to the ground. The physical evidence is not how we achieve a body count, since the Nazis prevented that from happening by exhuming and cremating the bodies.
The intercepted and Bletchley-decoded communication from Höfle is supposed to be proof that the total number of Jews murdered at Treblinka 2 up until the end of 1942 was 713,555.
It is documentary evidence from Hofle, Korherr, Zabecki and Stroop and transport and ghetto records that provide us with how many were sent to the camp and from that approximately how many were killed and buried there.
The lie-witnesses say that up until this time the Jews who arrived at Treblinka 2 were murdered then buried.
The problem for denial is that ALL the witnesses who worked inside TII state there was gassings, burials and cremations. It is remarkable that no witness claimed anything else.
Denial likes to suggest that all the witnesses have somehow been encouraged or manipulated to lie, but that is a claim which denial cannot evidence.
If we assume that 8 bodies could fit in one cubic metre, you need a mass grave of 89,194m3. (713,555 ÷ 8 = 89,194)
If we assume that 12 bodies could fit in one cubic metre, you need a mass grave of 59,462m3. (713,555 ÷ 12 = 59,462)
If we gauge by looking at this photo then I think we can assume that these figures are way too generous. It looks like approximately only 3 to 4 bodies could fit in one cubic metre. (713,555 ÷ 4 = 178,388)
So that would require a mass-grave of 178,388
You need to take into account that people were being buried for months on end, so bodies at the bottom of the pits were decomposing and subject to a lot of pressure. That increases the capacity.
Whichever estimate you use, please show "physical evidence" of ground disturbance at Treblinka that would account for mass-graves that were in total between 59,000 to 178,000 cubic metres.
According to the Polish Report in 1945, there is at least 2 hectares of disturbed ground, up to 7.5m deep, where mass graves were located. That is 20,000m2 x 7.5m deep or 150,000m3.