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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by NSDAP » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 am

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I also find it very suspicious that the hoax has survived a huge investigation that has uncovered many liars and false reports of gas chambers. If it really was a hoax, the claims about the AR camps would have fallen as well.
I think this matter is temporal Nessie and a different political situation. This is probably a reason why it has not been resolved to any satisfaction. As many of the Einsatz camps are in Poland new legislature may restrict real investigators from entering: there are real issues in Lublin and Treblinka. I and others tend to follow the Irving hypothesis of intense criminality at those camps which I mentioned many times. We know some Germans were corrupt, but now looking at the Ukrainians and others. In the meantime just leave Auschwitz out of this discussion. We know that diesel exhaust cannot work, no Zb used (not that it works with out a heater and circulation system anyway). There was a crime committed I feel of intense proportions and Jude can call it a holocaust, I don't care about the nomenclature. At this stage German culpability is acknowledged due to circumstances. We feel most were shot, no gassing.
We also feel that if Konrad Morgan has known about this the place would have been shut down, abruptly. As it was, perhaps this man had huge influence. As it was some men faced the SS firing squad.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by NSDAP » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:57 am

This video is worth watching which exposes witness testimony. I have mentioned many of these individually. Good investigative journalism.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by Nessie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:32 am

NSDAP wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 am
Nessie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:31 am
I also find it very suspicious that the hoax has survived a huge investigation that has uncovered many liars and false reports of gas chambers. If it really was a hoax, the claims about the AR camps would have fallen as well.
I think this matter is temporal Nessie and a different political situation. This is probably a reason why it has not been resolved to any satisfaction.
It has been resolved, except in the minds of a few individuals who do not want to accept the Holocaust took place.
As many of the Einsatz camps are in Poland new legislature may restrict real investigators from entering: there are real issues in Lublin and Treblinka. I and others tend to follow the Irving hypothesis of intense criminality at those camps which I mentioned many times. We know some Germans were corrupt, but now looking at the Ukrainians and others. In the meantime just leave Auschwitz out of this discussion.
It stays in the discussion, because it was one of the camps used to kill hundreds of thousands.
We know that diesel exhaust cannot work, no Zb used (not that it works with out a heater and circulation system anyway). There was a crime committed I feel of intense proportions and Jude can call it a holocaust, I don't care about the nomenclature. At this stage German culpability is acknowledged due to circumstances. We feel most were shot, no gassing.
We also feel that if Konrad Morgan has known about this the place would have been shut down, abruptly. As it was, perhaps this man had huge influence. As it was some men faced the SS firing squad.
You are admitting to an attempt to try and re-write history without using evidence.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by Nessie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:33 am

NSDAP wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:57 am
This video is worth watching which exposes witness testimony. I have mentioned many of these individually. Good investigative journalism.
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I cannot view the video. Please summarise why it is worth watching and the evidence it presents.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by NSDAP » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:53 am

Nessie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:33 am
NSDAP wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:57 am
This video is worth watching which exposes witness testimony. I have mentioned many of these individually. Good investigative journalism.
The last day of the big lie
I cannot view the video. Please summarise why it is worth watching and the evidence it presents.
It is hard to totally give an true reflection of the video, but it does expose obvious liars with good reporting: however, there is a bias there, on our side, which I do not appreciate. I prefer objective sources. The evidence exposes the fact that Black Americans were paid to claim they saw evidence of gassing in Dachau and Buchenwald, even though they were never there. The true issue I think is huge money has huge power and this has been misused politically in a 1984 style scenario. If you get time watch it. Cheers...
Juden are only about race, money to do this with religion perhaps the cover story. They think this is true by instinct.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by Nessie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 am

Exposing liars is what has already happened with the academic investigations. It is why witness evidence about gassings at some camps have been found to be lies or repeated mistaken hearsay.

All the denier claims so far are the obviously flawed, some lied, therefore they all lied argument. Surely you can see the flaw in that argument?
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by NSDAP » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:22 am

Nessie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 am
All the denier claims so far are the obviously flawed, some lied, therefore they all lied argument. Surely you can see the flaw in that argument?
Yes we can see the flaw, but those liars do not give credibility to those who faced the horrors of the Lagers: the situation was horrendous in the end for the inmates and the guards. It is suspected that all of the reports and evidence is simply Russian Soviet Propaganda. Juden manipulating events as they do money to get their own way, but what they did not realise there is another ring of power: the truth: we hold it. That one ring of power is National Socialism.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by Nessie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 am

NSDAP wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:22 am
Nessie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 am
All the denier claims so far are the obviously flawed, some lied, therefore they all lied argument. Surely you can see the flaw in that argument?
Yes we can see the flaw, but those liars do not give credibility to those who faced the horrors of the Lagers: the situation was horrendous in the end for the inmates and the guards. It is suspected that all of the reports and evidence is simply Russian Soviet Propaganda. Juden manipulating events as they do money to get their own way, but what they did not realise there is another ring of power: the truth: we hold it. That one ring of power is National Socialism.
You are ignoring the initial reports were from non Jewish Poles. If you want to evidence it was all a hoax, you need to start there.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by NSDAP » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:59 am

Nessie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 am
NSDAP wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:22 am
Nessie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 am
All the denier claims so far are the obviously flawed, some lied, therefore they all lied argument. Surely you can see the flaw in that argument?
Yes we can see the flaw, but those liars do not give credibility to those who faced the horrors of the Lagers: the situation was horrendous in the end for the inmates and the guards. It is suspected that all of the reports and evidence is simply Russian Soviet Propaganda. Juden manipulating events as they do money to get their own way, but what they did not realise there is another ring of power: the truth: we hold it. That one ring of power is National Socialism.
You are ignoring the initial reports were from non Jewish Poles. If you want to evidence it was all a hoax, you need to start there.
There is a reason why the current Polish government have placed laws to stop investigations. What they do cannot hide reality. I am not interested in potential hoaxes: it would seem the pogroms Poles did to Juden also come within the realm. When it comes to evidence, we do not regard race as a factor as you suggest we should do, but the integrity of the witnesses.
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Re: The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

Post by Nessie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:55 am

NSDAP wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:59 am
..... When it comes to evidence, we do not regard race as a factor as you suggest we should do, but the integrity of the witnesses.
So, when are you planning on producing a witness to what denial needs to show its version of no mass gassings is correct?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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