Is it really so hard to simply say that no one was gassed to death by the Nazis? What are people afraid of?
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Well I myself was very pleasantly surprised Fritz, by the discussions with strangers abroad.
All three very quickly realised and accepted the truth and reasonableness of revisionist argument. They were converted!
And one of the most easy to convince was Jewish. I take great hope from that. I presume he had never met a revisionist before so was keen to hear the arguments direct without being told what to think and believe by the usual gatekeepers with their ad hominem attacks. I presume also that he must have had some pre-existing doubts about the veracity of the holocaust mythos, because it was like pushing open an unlocked door that was already ajar.
So I see this as a positive and welcome sign that portends a quite major change in attitudes.
The guy on FB with his hateful insults and stupid, cheering chums also I also take as a positive sign. It proves that true-believers have no actual argument and I think deep down they knew that. Which is precisely why they had to resort to abuse and deletion of the sensible observations of fact that they could not reasonably contest.
Plus I assume that as he is an author with a relatively large following, other silent observers would have witnessed his disrespectful, hateful, illogical, dishonest and unfair arguing style over two days and will realise that the something is deeply rotten if that is the best a historian /author can come up with to statements of irrefutable fact.
they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
OK, let's say you convinced someone that "no one was gassed to death by the Nazis".
What became of the Jews that the Nazis are known to have transported out of their residences and are thought to have been killed by the Nazis? Those same Nazis who implemented a policy to make Europe "Judenfrei"? After the war, those Jewish communities were not there and those Jews are not known to have been anywhere else on this Earth. That is the simple question which anyone would immediately want to know from you. And you have no evidenced answer to it. And the flippant "Jews went where Jews are" will not satisfy anyone. Jews were dead is the narrative. That is where they "are" unless you can evidence otherwise.
You are merely countering possible ignorance about details on their part with your own ignorance about any details of the larger picture - the picture that any and all want you to give them as a counter to the contention that the Nazis largely succeeded in their Judenfrei goal. You come off as a nitwit or deluded fool without an answer to what became of the large Jewish communities - which were specifically targeted by the Nazis for destruction.
EDIT: And you get associated with foolish nitwits like Fredrick Toben who made a video proving that massive amounts of Zyklon B would not kill persons in a tiny hot room.
Who gives a shit about any "boot from Germany"? The Germans cleared the Jews out of Europe, you nitiwit. Is Poland "Germany"?Turnagain wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 4:51 pmThere was no state policy to kill all of the Jews. As far as being Judenfrei, Germany wasn't the first country to expel the Jews. That wasn't the Jew's first rodeo. Neither was the Jews getting the boot from Germany the first or last forced migration. Lots of Jews went to Israel and, unfortunately, the US. Why are you pissing and moaning about where the Jews went?
When your Joe Public hears you talk so ignorantly, he'll think you the buffoon. Even if it takes someone else to inform his ignorance about WHERE the Jews were "booted" from.
At least tell people what everyone should know; there were NO Nazi gassings of Jews or anyone else. The "evidence of gassings" is all bad evidence if not outright garbage.
I'm just telling it like it is. Turnagain's stupid post makes Revisionists look like nitwits. Such that no one is even interested in their ideas since they don't even know what happened to whom where. The fool presents things as Germany merely kicking Jews out of Germany.
Examples like Frederick Toben confirm assessments of nitwittery.
EDIT: And the nazi ass-licking that anyone, regardless of his own opinions of nazis, that BT sometimes exudes is not the best "optics" for his opinions either. Nor you, Berg.
EDIT 2: BTW, the Jew Ron Unz has written an article with a title that probably interests Berg:
American Pravda: How Hitler Saved the Allies
Maybe it aligns with your warped Hitler love?
They did or at least tried. All credible evidence, eye witness reports from honest Jude like Lantos, Sam Pivnik including non Jude such as Pierre Berg attest to the fact that hundreds of thousands died of disease and starvation. The member of the Heer, Wolfram Aïchele were shown picture which we have all seen of Belsen. His town of Pforzheim which only build clocks was firebombed with the deaths of thousands of innocent lives; it was considered these time pieces could be munitions.
The reality is that most Jude were put into war effort in almost every capacity imaginable, which in the eyes of the Strategic bomber command made them targets, just as the German civilians were. This resulted in callous firebombings in such places as Hamburg and Dresden.
The allies were well aware that the strategic targeting of necessary infrastructure would result in acute shortage of food and medicine, proper hygiene resulting in massive death tolls. Jude caught between the Bug and Vistula rivers were severely affected resulting in starvation, with rampant diseases of all kinds. Their severe incapacitation and death was greatly desired by the Allies as this meant war production and food was severely depleted.
The allies could have given humanitarian aid to all people in the areas affected, clean water, food medicine but with pure callousness did not. Just as with the fire bombings and the atomic bombings of Japanese cities they did not blink an eye.
At the end of the war these cold hearted, callous individuals blamed the Reich for not supplying the necessities of life.
I contend that Jude were not just collateral damage to the Allied war effort but were deliberately targeted for annihilation as was everyone else in that area.
There was no holocaust, this was the rout of Europe, an Apocalypse caused solely by the Allies.
About 58 million European civilians perished in Europe due to this policy.
So, the Germans wanted a Judenfrei Europe, too. The fact remains that there wasn't any official state policy to exterminate the Jews. As Fritz said, there wasn't any gassing and by extension, no holyhoax. The Germans didn't "gas" (or shoot, or burn alive) 6 million or 5 million or whatever number of Jews just because they were Jews. Your pissing and moaning about the poor, sufferink Jews of Poland is meaningless.Who gives a shit about any "boot from Germany"? The Germans cleared the Jews out of Europe, you nitiwit. Is Poland "Germany"?
He should blame the Allies for the Strategic Bombing which stopped production, resulting in severe shortage of fresh water, food, hygiene facilities, sewers. The means to these people justified the end with the destruction of Jude in those territories due entirely to their actions not the callousness of the Germans who were also fighting for their lives. To them at the time and now, jude do not matter.Turnagain wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 6:22 pmBlake12666 wrote:So, the Germans wanted a Judenfrei Europe, too. The fact remains that there wasn't any official state policy to exterminate the Jews. As Fritz said, there weren't any gassing and by extension, no holyhoax. The Germans (AND THEIR ALLIES) didn't "gas" 6 million or 5 million or whatever number of Jews. Your pissing and moaning about the poor, sufferink Jews of Poland is meaningless.Who gives a shit about any "boot from Germany"? The Germans cleared the Jews out of Europe, you nitiwit. Is Poland "Germany"?
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