The problem with your argument is that it is fallacious. That witness testimony is known to be unreliable does not therefore mean witnesses lied. You cherry pick parts of the testimony from only a few of the witnesses and then claim all the witnesses lied. Even you should be able to see the logical fail you have made.Turnagain wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:24 pmbeen-there wrote:Let's look at one of the "nuts and bolts" assertions of the exterminationists. It's claimed that ~700,000 people were gassed and buried at Treblinka before being exhumed and cremated. Wiernik's book, "A Year in Treblinka" was once said to be a "seminal work" and a "cornerstone" of the holyhoax. In it he claimed that a single excavator was used to dig the graves. He also claimed that people who had died from CO poisoning were yellow in color. The model that he built of Treblinka showing the graves and the stockpiles of excavated soil is absurdly inaccurate.Obviously the "accusation" under disccussion has been that of mass-murder, principally by mass-gassings of millions of Jews. I.e. the Jewish Holocaust accusation.
We are here at RODOH talking about THAT accusation.
The one which has been made against Hitler, Himmler, Frank, Eichmann, Höß and a host of others in the NSDAP.
From one of the supposedly most reliable eyewitnesses it's obvious that Wiernik saw NO bodies killed with CO and saw NO giant mass graves. That is supported by the fact that nobody has ever produced any evidence of the 10X25X50 meter graves as he described them. Then we have the dimensions and number of graves by Rajchman along with his tale of flammable blood. Both Wiernik and Rajchman claimed to have been in Treblinka for nearly its entire existence and both eyewitnesses are proven liars. Until some actual proof that people were gassed, buried, exhumed and cremated at Treblinka then the accusation of mass murder remains unproven.
To find out what happened, we need to look at what is and what is not corroboratively evidenced.
There are other witnesses who also say that there was gassing, bodies were buried, then exhumed and cremated to try and hide what had happened at the camp. Importantly, those witnesses come from different countries, were at the camp at different times and many were those who were responsible for the running of the camp. When both witnesses and accused agree a crime was committed, that is strong corroborative evidence.
What the witnesses say would be found at the camp is what has been found there. The witnesses describe the camp being razed to the ground after the bodies had been exhumed and cremated. Bare ground containing human bones and cremated remains are what is there. That finding is agreed upon by both Polish and British qualified experts.
No evidence has been found of the only alternative to gassings, which is c850,000 left the camp.
That means logically, scientifically, historically, empirically, evidentially, the gassing claims have been proved.