Jeff hates context and loves to insult the intelligence of the curious reader. Then again, so do most holocaust hucksters. So I will shove it in his face one last time.Jeffk1970 wrote: Actually, been-there brought up 9-11 stuff on his own thread so maybe he should get his shit together.
Here on page 105, been-there showed instances of Israelis murdering Americans on purpose (1967 USS Liberty attack), the attempted false flag called the Lavon affair (1954, Egypt) and cheering the murder of Americans (2001 September 11). Jeff, the philo-semite comes along and says of USS Liberty and Lavon affair, "I'm not going to defend the above, it's wrong." Is that an admission been-there is right and Israel have misbehaved and is not worth defending in those two instances, or that he will not defend the argument of been-there and disagrees that Israel attacked the USS Liberty on purpose and attempted a false flag in 1954 on purpose? Does he deny what Victor Ostrovsky wrote in his books? Is V.O. a self hating Jew?
Of the Israelis celebrating the planes hitting the towers as reported by an eyewitness, Jeff says, it is an urban legend. So the eyewitness who came forward to tell newspapers what she saw, but also appear in Marc Levin's film about those hoax protocols, is a liar? And the new jersey policeman who found those Israelis in a van with explosives and maps of New York with certain targets circled and thousands of dollars in a sock that immediately said, "we are not your problem the palestinians are," he must also be a Jew hater. Of course Jeff the philo semite gives no reason to think the dancing, celebrating Israelis on the rooftop is an urban legend. He just states it and demands we believe him simply because.
The whole point is that JEFF HIMSELF steered the conversation into something about 9-11 conspiracy theories while been-there only referenced 9-11 to show the celebrating Israelis and to show that nothing has changed since 1967 or even 1954. Even if arabs did do 9-11, the fact that Israelis would celebrate American deaths, is STILL OFFENSIVE. Jeff the philo semite either did not understand, or he did and was just doing his job by operating in bad faith and misrepresenting the conversation. As been-there had to explain:Then why did you bring it up?the examples from US newspapers of Israeli Jews celebrating and joking about the 911 attacks has nothing to do with what I believe.
Jeff of course just ignored this. Yeah, he put been-there's response in quote tags, but any reader can see he side stepped it on page 105.Jeff. Are you serious?
You really don't understand why I brought it up nor why — together with the other points — it is relevant?
No-one is saying the US don't have other strong allies.
But West Germany and Japan are NEVER described as the USA's closest, or greatest, or strongest ally. Are they?
AND... West Germany and Japan don't get billions in aid from America.
Are you really so naive and ignorant?
West Germans and Japanese were not seen dancing, high-fiving and celebrating the jets flying into the twin towers. Israelis were.
West Germany and Japan haven't been caught planning false-flag bombing of American organisations in Egypyt. Israel has.
No other ally has attacked a US ship killing and wounding over a hundred US serviceman, with their airforce and commando units, while in international waters, as a false flag attack to drag the USA into their wars and then lied about it. No other ally other than Israel.
Nice try, Jeff.