A black man tells whites to stop hijacking anti-racism

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Re: A black man tells whites to stop hijacking anti-racism

Post by Nessie » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:30 pm

Werd wrote:Proof?
The economic case that immigration is good for the economy;

http://business.time.com/2013/01/30/the ... s-and-why/

http://www.oecd.org/migration/OECD%20Mi ... ro%202.pdf

Both studies agree immigration of skilled workers benefits the economy. This is not the unfettered immigration that Werd pictures which happened for a shirt period in parts of Europe. No one is saying let everyone and anyone in as Werd is trying to make out. The USA is the worlds best example of immigration boosting an economy. There has been wave after wave of immigrants and they are the only reason why the USA is the biggest economy. What Werd wants is white only immigration, that is because he is a racist.
Werd wrote:No whites are homeless/dead from starvation and lack of help/employment. Gotcha!
Strawman, made up crap. Even the wealthiest economies have people in relative poverty. People have problems brought on by illness, mental health problems, addictions, fecklessness, lack of an education, criminality. They can be condemned to a life time of problems. Then others experience short term issues due to periods of unemployment and then get back on their feet again. Who do want to care for you in hospital? A trained, educated, skilled Syrian doctor or an untrained, uneducated, unskilled white American.
Werd wrote:Muslims know the law but don't care. Just like the white men who rape but not as much as muslims. How about we just don't let them in in the first place and deal with the white rape problem? Oh yeah because as dangerous as it is (you admit it), we still need them to take the place of a dying population. Brilliant!
If I was Swedish I would want the government to act and temporarily stop all male Muslim immigration and deport any Muslim male even suspected of rape even if that means they go back to war torn Syria or Afghanistan. Sweden has gone too far in its welcoming and toleration and that has given Muslim males the impression they can do what they want. Not all Muslim males are rapists and to stop all immigration is going too far the other way.
Werd wrote:Um, how'd they get in, in the first place then, jackass? The new world order elite families want a race war. They open up the country, AND THEN shut it. The fact that the opened it up in the first place proves me correct and shows you for the idiot you are.
Schengen has been in place since 1985. It has gradually expanded as the EU has expanded. It has had to be stopped because of a refugee crisis caused by the Arab spring and western action in Afghanistan and Iraq. Borders have closed at different times and rates and not all borders have been blocked off. That proves there is no one group in over all control of everything as there has been no consistency and open borders came long ago before the present crisis. Your abuse evidences how weak your argument is and how it needs propping up with fallacies.
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Re: A black man tells whites to stop hijacking anti-racism

Post by Werd » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:32 am

The USA is the worlds best example of immigration boosting an economy
Nessie already once showed his ignorance of how the economy is expanded and contracted at will. Not only was he truly clueless about securitization as shown here, but as I said, his ignorance about the international banking bloodlines, of which Bill Still has exposed better than anyone, shows he is simply not capable of understanding things. From your precious TIME (online) magazine.
According to a 2010 survey of the economic literature on the subject, the Brookings Institute concluded that, “The most recent academic research suggests that, on average, immigrants raise the overall standard of living of American workers by boosting wages and lowering prices.”
And we should believe them, why? I think they have things backwards. Lowering wages and boosting prices. Ask Scottish people who are losing jobs to Polish immigrants and see what they have to say. When you bring in foreigners that work for less, the wages go down not up you fucking idiot. Because the company gets to pay employees less, hence they line their own pockets more.
What Werd wants is white only immigration, that is because he is a racist.
Nice strawman. How about NO IMMIGRATION? How about that? See? Eventually you did pull the race card. You leftists are so predictable. Get the Poles out of Scotland. Get all trash out. White and brown. Keep the brown trash out of Sweden so they can take out the white trash. Simple, Nessie? Or do all these European countries have to keep taking in brown people when they already have enough problems on their hands? How many generations of whites have to pay for some alleged holocaust? It's getting tired...
Strawman, made up crap. Even the wealthiest economies have people in relative poverty
Then shut the fuck up about needing foreigners when you have plenty of whites to choose from.
Who do want to care for you in hospital? A trained, educated, skilled Syrian doctor or an untrained, uneducated, unskilled white American.
Qualified whites are starting to get passed over more and more for less skilled people in many industries including the health industry. Ask Veronica Clark about that and what her siblings had to go through to be in a waiting list to get employment as a nurse. That's a microcosm of what is going on thanks to quotas the communists and socialists demanded in the name of 'equality.'
Not all Muslim males are rapists and to stop all immigration is going too far the other way.
See folks, we can't stop all Muslim immigration. It's racist. :lol: Brown people can and should have countries in places like Africa and in the middle east and that white man should get the fuck out. AND I AGREE. But having your own place...blacks and brows okay. Whites need not apply.

Get the white devil worshipping satanic Illuminati new world order puppets OUT of brown and black countries. Burn down all the monsanto plants and give it back everything back to the black and brown peoples of the world. AND STOP GOING TO FUCKING WAR. Why should the middle class whites have to talk in ANY anti western foreign savages just because the white leaders are tricking them into accepting wars or even lying about who really pulled off 9-11 or Paris or London...?

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Re: A black man tells whites to stop hijacking anti-racism

Post by Nessie » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:31 pm

If the USA was still populated by native Indians living as nomadic hunters or farmers, with a few people getting stupidly wealthy from the natural resources it would be one of the poorer countries in the world. The USA as well as Canada, Australia and New Zealand are major economic powers only because of immigration.

Werd is a racist who wants only whites as immigrants and then no more immigrants, or if whites where the original native people, no other immigrants. Clearly he does not understand about economics and the nature of poverty, relative poverty, education, skills, the affect of an ageing population and employment. He just thinks stopping immigration is best. What he does not understand is that there is not a set number of jobs. He thinks there is and if immigrants arrive they take jobs from others. That is not the case as the vast majority of immigration is to work. Indeed immigration into the UK is only allowed to work. Under EU treaty laws that allow free movement the Polish people in Scotland have to be in work or looking for work or else they can and are removed from the country.

http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=457

"What restrictions are there?
The rights described on this site apply to people who exercise their right to free movement for work purposes.
There are limitations based on considerations of public security, public policy, public health grounds and employment in the public sector."

Scotland has benefited from the Polish immigration. They will do the jobs the local Scots do not want to do, or there is not enough people to do them. They set up business, provide employment.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/p ... -1-3730615

POLISH immigrants are the most economically active people in Scotland, according to new analysis of census data.
"More than half (56 per cent) were full-time employees, 18 per cent were part-timers, 6 per cent were either full or part-time self-employed and just 5 per cent were unemployed."

Hence they boost the economy. As for nurses, a cap on immigrants to work in the NHS has caused a crisis and it has had to be relaxed.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 97956.html

"And the committee found that the "perverse" consequences of the limit had come close to causing a nursing crisis in the NHS this winter, until Home Secretary Theresa May stepped in with an emergency relaxation of the cap."

The rest of post is just racist and CT crap.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: A black man tells whites to stop hijacking anti-racism

Post by Werd » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:42 pm

And I'm just supposed to take their word that there weren't enough natural born people who could fill those nursing gaps? I'm just supposed to believe that Scots were purposely passing up jobs that Poles ended up taking? In some situations I can see that, but not all of them. I am very skeptical, given how I have seen affirmative action work in Canada and the United States.

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Re: A black man tells whites to stop hijacking anti-racism

Post by Nessie » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:23 pm

Their word is based on evidence of a recruitment problem and staffing issues at NHS hospitals. The nurses themselves are pointing to a major issue;

http://www.nursingtimes.net/roles/nurse ... ullarticle

"The NHS will experience a chronic shortage of nurses within the next three years as demand for services continues to pile on pressure.
This is the dire warning from the government-backed Centre for Workforce Intelligence, which has predicted the NHS is likely to have 47,500 fewer nurses than it needs by 2016."

There are studies which show immigrants will do the so called "dirty jobs" that citizens from wealthy countries do not want;

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/ ... _work.html

"What are these jobs that Americans will not do? Do they exist? Or are they a figment of the business community's imagination? It turns out that their claims are largely true—there are plenty of jobs Americans avoid. Let's take a tour of them. Americans shun pretty much any unskilled labor that requires them to get their hands dirty: landscaping, entry-level construction, picking fruits and vegetables (Reuters report s that "up to 70 percent of U.S. farm workers are estimated to be undocumented, totaling about 500,000 people"), cleaning hotel rooms, busing tables, and prep cooking in urban restaurants."

It is the same in Scotland;

http://www.gov.scot/Resource/Doc/261996/0078342.pdf

"Migrants are concentrated in a relatively small number of sectors of the economy, including hospitality and catering, food processing, construction and agriculture....There are concentrations in low skilled, low paid work which is rarely related to work they carried out in their home country."
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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