A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

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aemathisphd wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:48 pm
been-there wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:15 am
We have a person here with a Bachelors degree in history (who is working towards a Masters), arguing that an emotional concern for Jews dying at Belsen, Ohrdruf and in ghettoes is proof of a Final Solution policy of Jew genocide in gas chambers at 'extermination' camps.
I claimed no such thing. I claimed that the facts of these deaths are proof of a larger extermination that was going on. Whether one is emotional about it or not is beside the point, but it is one that was raised (presumably as a {failed} point of refutation) by Blake.
...whatever. It comes to the same thing in the end even if we drop the part about emotion.
As you are STILL claiming that the undisputed fact of individual Jewish deaths is somehow proof of a disputed larger extermination going on. Those deaths are NOT proof of that. That appears to me to be an obvious logical fallacy. A non sequitur.

And you now appear to be in denial of the conversation that just occurred.
Here:
aemathisphd wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:52 am
“Blake" wrote:The Holocaust requires specific targeting of all* European Jews — with the intent to wipe Jews out. Kill them all*.”
*[The highlighting is mine]
Sorry for getting emotional about people dying, you sociopath.
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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

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aemathisphd wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:59 pm
Listen, I understand from our previous interactions that you're very stupid, but try to understand that your framing of an issue in a particular fashion in no way requires that I accept that framing.
If I'm so stupid then how was I able to figure out how to refute those who claim that Jews run the world?
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Jeffk1970 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:36 am
You know it really is a shame. You aren’t unintelligent. You just have too many voices screaming in your head.
Oh you mean like all the authors I have read that helped me see the light years ago that Jews/Zionists/Rothschilds don't actually run the world?
viewtopic.php?p=153770#p153770
viewtopic.php?p=156470#p156470
viewtopic.php?p=156480#p156480
I figured those would be GOOD voices. Now you're opposed to them? :lol:

I'm of the view that there is a several centuries old conspiracy of Illuminati, freemasonic, satanic bloodlines that rule the world and have all bases covered. Zionism and Israel is merely but one modern aspect of this conspiracy. "The Jews" or "The Rothschilds" are not the head of the beast. We have to look to the Jesuit/Roman mafia and their many groups such as the Knights of Malta as well as their cooperating satanic European Black Nobility lines from Italian, German and Dutch background.

Many revisionists claim Hitler "fought the bankers" and wasn't their puppet. I HAVE CAUGHT SHIT FOR PROVING OTHERWISE! I have caught shit for also attacking the occult/satanic aspects of the inner core of the Nazi regime. I have been IGNORED for documenting how Mengele (and many others) survived and was in fact a CIA employee working on the MK Ultra brainwashing torture program. I have been ignored for posting names of books and authors that show the real top of the conspiracy pyramid that takes blame away from Jews and puts it where it belongs. I have been ignored for PROVING that Jews don't own the media. I have been IGNORED for proving that the horrible democracy destroying EU is not a Jewish plot but a long term SATANIC PAN-GERMAN CONSPIRACY. Put me in a debate with someone who claims "Jews" or "The Zionists" run the world, and I will embarrass them. I have the knowledge and the books and authors to do so
So Mathis, you're part of holocaust controversies of course. Aren't you the same insane leftist cowards that refuse to address the growing Muslim violence problem in Europe, as well as their general lack of education and drain on the socialist economy? :lol:
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Hahaha. Look at that. No response. He thought I was just another neo-nazi Jew basher that thinks Jews run the world. I proved him wrong. That shut him up real quick.

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Werd wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:40 pm
Hahaha. Look at that. No response. He thought I was just another neo-nazi Jew basher that thinks Jews run the world. I proved him wrong. That shut him up real quick.
AJ, I was walking my dog. Now I'm home. Maybe learn delayed gratification. You can start right after you master object permanence.

Am I supposed to be impressed that you *proved* that Jews don't control the world? Am I supposed to be impressed that your particular variety of antisemitism is slightly less noxious than that of others'? Are you high on pot? Let me be clear: I would be happier if every antisemite wore a swastika armband. That way, I'd know where to aim my rifle.

Re Muslims in Europe. This matter concerns me only insofar as the countries receiving these immigrants fail to integrate these populations. The United States and Canada typically do a *very* good job in this regard. The U.K. and Germany have done admirably too, in my estimation. France has pretty much failed. Other countries too. But I do place the blame on the country of destination more than on the individual migrant.

Don't want them to be uneducated? Then educate them. Don't want them to be a drain on the economy? Raise taxes on the wealthiest people in the country and give the immigrants access to social programs, along with everyone else. Means-tested benefits are non-starters.

I'm a socialist, AJ -- have been for decades now. And I flatly reject the idea that a person's religion (or race or language or whatever) makes him/her inherently a bad risk as an immigrant. No apologies for that, and it's beyond the purview of what we do at HC blog -- of which, yes, I am a charter member.

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aemathisphd wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:49 pm
Re Muslims in Europe. This matter concerns me only insofar as the countries receiving these immigrants fail to integrate these populations.
Funny how it's not the responsibility of Muslims to integrate and adopt western liberal values. Blowing up cops cars in Malamo, Sweden, running sex rings in England, sucking off the welfare in Germany and Sweden, creating no go zones in France with their harassment of women, etc. All the surveys coming back that show a majority of western Muslims still think gays should be in jail, etc.
I'm a socialist, AJ -- have been for decades now. And I flatly reject the idea that a person's religion (or race or language or whatever) makes him/her inherently a bad risk as an immigrant.
Like a dipshit, you fail to realize that THIS IS NOT THE ARGUMENT. The argument is that a CLEAR MAJORITY of immigrants from CERTAIN COUNTRIES have CERTAIN BELIEFS that they are NOT SHEDDING FAST ENOUGH and it's TO THE DETRIMENT OF WOMEN AND GIRLS. If it was a bunch of WHITE MUSLIMS who were acting the SAME WAY, I would say REMOVE THEM FOR THE SAKE OF THE GIRLS. But because the skin colour of all these welfare leeches and rapists and haters of gays and atheists are brown, you want to run interference on the issue.

How many more sex rings and disproportionate rape stats must white women and girls endure to satisfy you? And how many Muslim countries as as progressive as the west to the point that women can have abortions, makeup, vehicles, jobs, access to divorce, birth control, rape shield laws, rape test kits, not needing four male witnesses, etc.

Until you can prove to me that the Muslim world treats women as good or better as we do here in the west (we still have work to do but not as much as them), there is no good reason to let them in at the rate Europe has. It's time to start sending them back. Sharia zones and no go zones have NO PLACE in a civilized liberal European nation.
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aemathisphd wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:49 pm
AJ, I was walking my dog. Now I'm home. Maybe learn delayed gratification. You can start right after you master object permanence.

Am I supposed to be impressed that you *proved* that Jews don't control the world? Am I supposed to be impressed that your particular variety of antisemitism is slightly less noxious than that of others'?
What exactly about me is anti-semitic?

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And he went offline after I posted this last question. Did he not see it, or did he retreat because he realized he had no answer? LOL

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I'm sorry, Drew, am I required to stay logged onto RODOH for your benefit? Did I miss that bit in the terms of service?

If you have some specific question that you'd like me to answer, see if you can post it without all caps and I'll endeavor to answer.


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