Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by been-there » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:06 am

blake121666 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:54 pm
Turnagain wrote:
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Name one German who "confessed" to the gas chamber lie that wasn't involved in a court proceeding. That's a German under no duress who freely and voluntarily gave a statement that the gas chambers did, in fact, exist.
BT had an interesting thread on Kurt Franz being interviewed about it. I think it is here:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3067&p=133542#p133541
Fascinating that Jewish-owned Youtube has banned that filmed interview.
Now why would they do that, I wonder? :)

blake121666 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:54 pm
And of course there is Franz Suchomel's Shoa interview:
I have a post on the inconsistencies and circumstances of that filmed interview with Suchomel here
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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Nessie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:23 am

Turnagain wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:11 pm
Nessie wrote:
I have explained to you how it would be simple to construct a gas chamber that included hermetic seals, on numerous occasions.
No, you have explained how YOU could build a gas chamber with hermetic seals. You have NOT shown how the hermetically sealed gas/vacuum chambers described by the eyewitnesses could function.
The witnesses, of which Wiernik provides the most detail, describe an engine, a system of pipes (where more than one pipe goes into each chamber), valves and vents. The engine is turned on and the gas circulates to and inside the gas chambers for an unknown time, which is at most about 20 minutes and then the chambers are vented by opening vents and doors. The hermetic seals are on the doors and vents to keep the gas within the chambers during the gassing process.

Your ad hoc about there being pressure issues is based on your assumption the Nazis made a completely enclosed system. All I did was point out that issue can be overcome by having a simple outlet pipe at the point furthest from the engine. Your claim that no German would have thought to stop any pressure build up issue with a simple outlet pipe, is just one of your many ad hocs.
Quote Goering and Mengele denying that there were gas chambers.
GFY. How come you don't quote chapter and verse from Gerstein et al.? Gerstein was a nutcase and Groening was a senile old man who died during his trial. A POW wasn't under any duress? That's laughable.

No cremains, no graves, no holyhoax. Finito. End of story.
IOW, neither Goering nor Mengele denied gassings.
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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Huntinger » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:25 am

been-there wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:06 am
Fascinating that Jewish-owned Youtube has banned that filmed interview.
Now why would they do that, I wonder? :)
Soon as the censor saw SS it was banned, without analysis of the content. No doubt like other great videos it has been classified as "hate speech"
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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Nessie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:34 am

been-there wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:06 am
blake121666 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:54 pm
Turnagain wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:48 pm
Name one German who "confessed" to the gas chamber lie that wasn't involved in a court proceeding. That's a German under no duress who freely and voluntarily gave a statement that the gas chambers did, in fact, exist.
BT had an interesting thread on Kurt Franz being interviewed about it. I think it is here:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3067&p=133542#p133541
Fascinating that Jewish-owned Youtube has banned that filmed interview.
Now why would they do that, I wonder? :)

....
The Kurt Franz interview is on you tube, link here;



Maybe it is not available in some countries?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Turnagain » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:38 am

Take your lies and sell them down the street, Nessie. Wiernik said what he said, not what you say he said or what the Germans "coulda" done.

Goering, like other high ranking National Socialists, denied that lethal gas chambers existed. If you don't like it, prove it wrong or GFY.

No cremains, no graves, no holyhoax. Finito. End of story.

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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by been-there » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:40 am

Huntinger wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:25 am
been-there wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:06 am
Fascinating that Jewish-owned Youtube has banned that filmed interview.
Now why would they do that, I wonder? :)
Soon as the censor saw SS it was banned, without analysis of the content. No doubt like other great videos it has been classified as "hate speech"
I doubt that.
The holocaust industry repeatedly mentions the SS and those H videos are not only NOT banned but are everywhere: online, on TV, in the 'news', on social-media and on Jewtube... er I mean Youtube.

If you read my post on Kurt Franz there is the account of someone at the prison relating how Kurt was interviewed in prison numerous time by TV crews, but that eventually became verboten. Why?
And where are all these filmed interviews? Why are they never shown nor appear in any of the constant remakes of emotionally manipulative TV holocaust documentaries?
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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Turnagain » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:57 am

I would take any of Franz's interviews with a grain of salt, BT. He obviously had to toe the line for even a chance at freedom before he died. Why would he be willing to return to prison for holyhoax denial after his release? What would be wrong for an old man to say, "Screw it, it was a long time ago. Let it go".

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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Nessie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:24 am

Turnagain wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:38 am
Take your lies and sell them down the street, Nessie. Wiernik said what he said, not what you say he said or what the Germans "coulda" done.
Quote me misrepresenting Wiernik. Explain why you can assume the German's could not have worked out how to gas people, but I am not allowed to assume they could.
Goering, like other high ranking National Socialists, denied that lethal gas chambers existed. If you don't like it, prove it wrong or GFY.
Stop reversing the burden of proof.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Nessie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:28 am

been-there wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:40 am
Huntinger wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:25 am
been-there wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:06 am
Fascinating that Jewish-owned Youtube has banned that filmed interview.
Now why would they do that, I wonder? :)
Soon as the censor saw SS it was banned, without analysis of the content. No doubt like other great videos it has been classified as "hate speech"
I doubt that.
The holocaust industry repeatedly mentions the SS and those H videos are not only NOT banned but are everywhere: online, on TV, in the 'news', on social-media and on Jewtube... er I mean Youtube.

If you read my post on Kurt Franz there is the account of someone at the prison relating how Kurt was interviewed in prison numerous time by TV crews, but that eventually became verboten. Why?
Please evidence how many times Franz was interviewed (TV or other journalist) and that such interviews were then forbidden.
And where are all these filmed interviews? Why are they never shown nor appear in any of the constant remakes of emotionally manipulative TV holocaust documentaries?
I linked to the You Tube video, what other interviews are you referring to?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Re: Denying the existence of gas chambers at Treblinka

Post by Turnagain » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:53 am

Nessie wrote:
Quote me misrepresenting Wiernik.
OK, from page 2 this thread:
The witnesses, of which Wiernik provides the most detail, describe an engine, a system of pipes (where more than one pipe goes into each chamber), valves and vents.
Wiernik doesn't say that more than one pipe went into each gas/vacuum chamber and states that the vent had a hermetic cap. What the Germans coulda' built or woulda' built or shoulda' built isn't relevant to what the witnesses said that they DID build.
Stop reversing the burden of proof.
GFY.

No cremains, no graves, no holyhoax. Finito. End of story.

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