The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Huntinger » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:45 pm

by Goody67 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:10 pm.... I can see why many users on here don't bother with the RODOH forum or any other nutjob forum - one can only take so much of the loonies. :lol: :lol: :lol:
It would bring me greatest pleasure to witness you leaving to fornicate yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Werd » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:40 am

Keep in mind that Goody is the same guy who openly lied about Rudolf Hoess being tortured and assaulted; but was forced to slightly back down when the evidence was overwhelming. That of course didn't stop him from saying his torture was irrelevant and that what he confessed to was still true.
Page 64 to 68.

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Trolljegeren » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:06 am

Werd wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:40 am
Keep in mind that Goody is the same guy who openly lied about Rudolf Hoess being tortured and assaulted; but was forced to slightly back down when the evidence was overwhelming. That of course didn't stop him from saying his torture was irrelevant and that what he confessed to was still true.
Page 64 to 68.
I would not worry Werd the Judensau won't be back for a while it seems. Thank you for your thoughts.
by Statistical Mechanic» Wed Feb 13, 2019 ....
why not let it die? Or go on in blissful foolishness as you usually do
Then the reply by 67
by Goody67 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:50 am
I agree with you. I hope to be blissfully foolish until the end of my time
I think sums up the time you wasted on this blissfully foolish twerp.

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by zionist-occupation » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:03 pm

Werd wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:40 am
Keep in mind that Goody is the same guy who openly lied about Rudolf Hoess being tortured and assaulted; but was forced to slightly back down when the evidence was overwhelming. That of course didn't stop him from saying his torture was irrelevant and that what he confessed to was still true.
Page 64 to 68.
I think you'll find this useful.

Goody67 on SSF:
On p. 613 he wrote that Ribbentrop claimed that the Poles were the ones who were causing all the trouble (most prominent Nazis made that claim over and over again), but he cited the Foreign Office reported that 200 ethnic Germans had been murdered in Poland. No source was cited.
Goody67 embarrasses himself once again by claiming Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof doesn't cite a source for his claim his when he actually does.

https://archive.org/details/DocumentsOn ... /page/n527
No. 461

F1V/393-95

Memorandum by an Official of the Foreign Minister's Secretariat

Berlin, August 31, 1939.

Record of the Conversation between the Reich Foreign
Minister and the British Ambassador, Henderson, at
Midnight on August 30, 1939 1

Henderson first handed over the written communication enclosed.
He added two oral communications. 2

He said that complete restraint on the part of the Polish Govern-
ment could only be expected if the German Government adopted the
same attitude on their side of the frontier, and if there were no acts
of provocation by the German minority in Poland. Reports were
circulating to the effect that the Germans in Poland were committing
acts of sabotage which would justify the strongest counter measures
on the part of the Polish Government.

The Foreign Minister most emphatically contradicted this last
remark by the British Ambassador. Germany knew only of Polish
acts of provocation, but Polish propaganda had evidently not failed
in its effect on the British Government. The most outrageous acts of
sabotage were being committed by the Poles. In the German records
there were 200 cases alone of murders committed by Poles.
He (the
Reich Foreign Minister) refused to discuss this subject at all with the
British Government. Henderson's third communication referred to
the German Government's reply of the previous day, 3 in which the
German Government had stated their willingness to enter into direct

1 This document is printed here for the convenience of the reader.

1 For the instructions to Sir N. Henderson to make these two communications, see
British Documents, Third Series, vol. vn, Nos. 580, 538; for his instructions on the
British Government's reply, see ibid., Nos. 534, 543, 545, 547 and 548; and for his
account of this interview, see ibid., Nos. 570, 571, 574 and 588.

3 See document No. 421.



452 DOCUMENTS ON GERMAN FOREIGN POLICY

contact with Poland if the Polish Government would send a pleni-
potentiary at once. The British Government were not in a position to
advise the Polish Government to comply with this procedure. They
proposed to the German Government that matters should be set in
motion through normal diplomatic channels, i.e., by handing the
proposals to the Polish Ambassador, so that he, in consultation with
his Government, might be enabled to make preparations for direct
German-Polish negotiations. If the German Government would also
communicate these proposals to the British Government, and if the
latter thought that the proposals formed a reasonable basis for a
settlement of the problems at issue, they would bring influence to
bear on Warsaw towards achieving a solution.

Henderson, referring to the last paragraph of the German reply
of the previous day, asked if the German proposals had already been
formulated and whether these proposals could be handed to him.

The Foreign Minister replied that (1) so far British mediation had
produced only one definite result, namely, Polish general mobiliza-
tion. (2) Germany had expected a Polish representative to arrive
today. This had not been an ultimatum, as the British Ambassador
had wrongly supposed, but, as the Fuhrer had already explained the
day before, a practical proposal dictated by the requirements of
present circumstances. Up to midnight, Germany had heard nothing
from the Poles. The question of possible proposals therefore no longer
arose. But in order to show what proposals Germany had intended
to make if the Polish representative had arrived, the Reich Foreign
Minister read out the German proposals contained in the enclosure. 4
Henderson replied that the Foreign Minister's statement that the
non-arrival of the Polish representative by midnight on Wednesday
nullified the proposals which Germany had originally intended to
make, seemed to confirm his interpretation that the proposal was an

ultimatum.

The Foreign Minister again vehemently contradicted this view and
referred to the Fiihrer's statement of the previous day that speed was
required owing to the fact that two mobilized armies were facing each
other within firing range and an incident might at any moment start
a serious conflict. . .,

In conclusion Henderson proposed that the Foreign Minister should
summon the Polish Ambassador and hand him the German proposals.

The Foreign Minister refused to do this himself and closed the
conversation, having reserved all decisions for the Fuhrer.

Submitted herewith to the Foreign Minister, according to instruc-
tions. _ „

Dr. Schmidt

Minister

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Werd » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:30 am

zionist-occupation wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:03 pm
Germany knew only of Polish
acts of provocation, but Polish propaganda had evidently not failed
in its effect on the British Government. The most outrageous acts of
sabotage were being committed by the Poles. In the German records
there were 200 cases alone of murders committed by Poles.
What German records? The unabridged white book?

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by zionist-occupation » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:27 am

Werd wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:30 am
zionist-occupation wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:03 pm
Germany knew only of Polish
acts of provocation, but Polish propaganda had evidently not failed
in its effect on the British Government. The most outrageous acts of
sabotage were being committed by the Poles. In the German records
there were 200 cases alone of murders committed by Poles.
What German records? The unabridged white book?
The White Book consisted of German reports, so probably yes.

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Rev2018 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:27 pm

This is a ridiculous thread. It has been well documented that Poles killed many Germans before WW2. Ethnic Germans were a minority and they could not report crimes to Polish authorities. They only did it when Germans quite rightly took back the areas which had been stolen from Germany after WWI so any records of Polish crimes date from 1939 onwards.

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Rev2018 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:59 pm

Here's a relevant link:

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scrip ... mp000.html

It is mainly about war time crimes commited by the Poles but there is also a section about pre-war crimes.

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Werd » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:39 am

Rev2018 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:27 pm
This is a ridiculous thread. It has been well documented that Poles killed many Germans before WW2.
So far all we have is the White Book as sourced by Udo Walendy. That's good enough for me. What else is there?
Germany knew only of Polish
acts of provocation, but Polish propaganda had evidently not failed
in its effect on the British Government. The most outrageous acts of
sabotage were being committed by the Poles. In the German records
there were 200 cases alone of murders committed by Poles.
What German records?

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Re: The false claim that the Poles massacred ethnic Germans before WW2

Post by Rev2018 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:10 am

In the link that I included in my post there are several articles in German on the topic. I read them using Google translator, they are worth reading.

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