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There is no test or empiricism in psychiatric labels. It's all some nutcase's projections, or even more often, the system's misinterpretations and even outright lies.

Can anyone produce any evidence of science-based psych diagnosis?


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Freya wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:09 am
There is no test or empiricism in psychiatric labels. It's all some nutcase's projections, or even more often, the system's misinterpretations and even outright lies.

Can anyone produce any evidence of science-based psych diagnosis?
Psychiatrists and clinical Psychologists rely heavily on DSM–5, the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals in the U.S. The medicines given must be empirically tested. Neuropsychology is becoming more exact being a real biological discipline. However, you are correct to the extent that the DSM is not as exact as say chemistry or physics. As mentioned many psychologists and psychiatrists still use the Freudian techniques of psychoanalysis as well as inkblot tests and the like to make a diagnosis, which are somewhat intuitive and prone to error.

What is clear is that there is still much to learn about human cognition and behaviour at an observational and biochemical level; when some psychiatrists think that there is a spirit, aka the ghost in the machine that is a cause for concern.


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REMINDER

WORLDWIDE:
The World.Health.Organisation estimates between 290,000 and 650,000 deaths associated with seasonal influenza each year.
The global death rate for Covid-19 is not precise, may be inflated, yet currently is a comparatively low 148,634.

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UK:
Public Health England estimates that annually between 2014-15 and 2018-19, on average 17,000 people died from flu issues in just England alone.
Current, possibly inflated death toll for the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland) is 14,576.
(Yearly deaths vary widely from a high of 28,330 in 2014-15 to a low of 1,692 in 2018-19).
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been-there wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:35 pm
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REMINDER

WORLDWIDE:
The World.Health.Organisation estimates between 290,000 and 650,000 deaths associated with seasonal influenza each year.
The global death rate for Covid-19 is not precise, may be inflated, yet currently is a comparatively low 148,634.
Everybody is Kung Flu fighting
The chaos has exquisite timing...

Yes, and the potential economic consequences may be worse than the "pandemic."

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Summary

The UK death toll reaches 14,576 as 847 new deaths are reported in hospitals

The UK extends its furlough scheme until the end of June, with the government to cover 80% of salaries for a further month

Germany says its outbreak is under control, with each carrier of the virus infecting less than one other person on average

China denies covering up the scale of the outbreak in Wuhan, where the pandemic began, even after revising the death toll

French President Emmanuel Macron joins those questioning China's handling of the outbreak

Meanwhile, the Chinese economy shrinks for the first time in decades due to virus impact

There have now been more than 2.15 million confirmed cases worldwide and 145,000 deaths
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-52319956
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Charles Traynor wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:35 pm

Summary

The UK death toll reaches 14,576 as 847 new deaths are reported in hospitals

The UK extends its furlough scheme until the end of June, with the government to cover 80% of salaries for a further month

Germany says its outbreak is under control, with each carrier of the virus infecting less than one other person on average

China denies covering up the scale of the outbreak in Wuhan, where the pandemic began, even after revising the death toll

French President Emmanuel Macron joins those questioning China's handling of the outbreak

Meanwhile, the Chinese economy shrinks for the first time in decades due to virus impact

There have now been more than 2.15 million confirmed cases worldwide and 145,000 deaths
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-52319956
The BBC!? Nahhhh...I myself do not regard the BBC as a trustworthy source.

And I view with suspicion the attempts to cast aspersions against China. The virus almost certsinly originsted EARLIER than earlier understood. And there is evidence — though NOT given western mass-media exposure — that the country with the most strains at the beginning was therefore the source. And that country was America. I linked to news and details of that about a month ago.
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Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:41 am
Freya wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:09 am
There is no test or empiricism in psychiatric labels. It's all some nutcase's projections, or even more often, the system's misinterpretations and even outright lies.

Can anyone produce any evidence of science-based psych diagnosis?
Psychiatrists and clinical Psychologists rely heavily on DSM–5, the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals in the U.S. The medicines given must be empirically tested. Neuropsychology is becoming more exact being a real biological discipline. However, you are correct to the extent that the DSM is not as exact as say chemistry or physics. As mentioned many psychologists and psychiatrists still use the Freudian techniques of psychoanalysis as well as inkblot tests and the like to make a diagnosis, which are somewhat intuitive and prone to error.

What is clear is that there is still much to learn about human cognition and behaviour at an observational and biochemical level; when some psychiatrists think that there is a spirit, aka the ghost in the machine that is a cause for concern.
The DSM-5 has zero biology to it. ZERO. It's all made up categories of 'psychology.' MD's are supposed to be biologists and scientists.

To compare the DSM to chemistry or physics is beyond absurd. It's insane, lol.

Again, psychiatry isn't science, like chemistry and physics and biology. It's witch doctoring.

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Neuro science is not at the point at which the exactitude and mathematical calculation are in the same order as other sciences. However, psychology is considered a science and people can get a BSc in that field.
The DSM is more descriptive than exact


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There is no neuroscience in any psychiatric diagnosis. Not one. And not one iota of empirical biological science whatsoever.

Most people don't consider psychology a real science. No one would allow a psychologist to operate on their brain, or advise a surgeon about to.
The DSM has zero biology in it.

You can't win, Huntinger. You'll try to repeat and use rhetorical circles (yours aren't even sophisticated or half convincing) but all it does is demonstrate how lacking you are in any real evidence.

Science. We're all waiting for even a little proof of any at all in any psychiatric diagnosis...

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How many Americans were even aware of the murder of this Jewish couple in Toronto?

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Unsolved. And conspiracy is not a "theory."

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