What are your political views?

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So Turnagain, what's your larger point here? That Scott gets duped into believing that the Republicans or 'Conservatives' or whatever group he anoints with a capital letter will somehow defend whites and european rights?

Because that's what I think. I'd be shocked, but I have noticed that notwithstanding the Hoax, most revisionists are incredibly gullible and manipulable. And I think it's very detrimental to the goals they seem to claim to champion.

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Maybe I could be branded anti-intellectual, but I don't see how these many political terms to identify people are useful to non-Jews.

Communist
Socialist
Liberal
Progressive
Conservative
Neoconservative
Paleo-conservative
Globalist
Nationalist
Fascist
Neo-Nazi

And a million more . . .

I categorize people in three ways:

Those who are pro-Jewish.
Those who are indifferent to Jews (due to ignorance about them, as I was for much of my young life).
Those who are anti-Jewish.

Jews are the rulers of the West. All these terms seem to play into Jewish hands, as Jews basically control any group that doesn't exclude them. Even some groups that exclude them are controlled by them. Categorizing people as "pro-Jewish," "ignorant about Jews," and "anti-Jewish" is the best way to size people up.

The good news, somewhat, is that I find most non-Jews are not pro-Jewish but merely ignorant about Jews. They could have their minds changed and become anti-Jewish very quickly. It seems things will have to become much more dire before a wellspring of bright anti-Jewish minds will rise up and collaborate against Jews. I see nothing like that on the horizon.

Takimag fails the anti-Jewish test. I would argue that Takimag is pro-Jewish, therefore not trustworthy. All the anti-Jewish criticism you see at Unz.com and Takimag is Jew-approved anti-Jewish criticism. Ukip, BNP, Front National . . . none of these groups is anti-Jewish.

The pre-Vatican II Church was a much fiercer enemy of the Jewish people than any other group I can think of that's cropped up in the last 2000 years. Unfortunately the Church has become a Noahide religion since Vatican II.

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Daniel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:57 am
Maybe I could be branded anti-intellectual, but I don't see how these many political terms to identify people are useful to non-Jews.

Communist
Socialist
Liberal
Progressive
Conservative
Neoconservative
Paleo-conservative
Globalist
Nationalist
Fascist
Neo-Nazi

And a million more . . .

I categorize people in three ways:

Those who are pro-Jewish.
Those who are indifferent to Jews (due to ignorance about them, as I was for much of my young life).
Those who are anti-Jewish.

Jews are the rulers of the West. All these terms seem to play into Jewish hands, as Jews basically control any group that doesn't exclude them. Even some groups that exclude them are controlled by them. Categorizing people as "pro-Jewish," "ignorant about Jews," and "anti-Jewish" is the best way to size people up.

The good news, somewhat, is that I find most non-Jews are not pro-Jewish but merely ignorant about Jews. They could have their minds changed and become anti-Jewish very quickly. It seems things will have to become much more dire before a wellspring of bright anti-Jewish minds will rise up and collaborate against Jews. I see nothing like that on the horizon.

Takimag fails the anti-Jewish test. I would argue that Takimag is pro-Jewish, therefore not trustworthy. All the anti-Jewish criticism you see at Unz.com and Takimag is Jew-approved anti-Jewish criticism. Ukip, BNP, Front National . . . none of these groups is anti-Jewish.

The pre-Vatican II Church was a much fiercer enemy of the Jewish people than any other group I can think of that's cropped up in the last 2000 years. Unfortunately the Church has become a Noahide religion since Vatican II.
What is your definition of 'Jewish' and your criteria for distinguishing someone as 'Jewish'?
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been-there wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:26 am
What is your definition of 'Jewish' and your criteria for distinguishing someone as 'Jewish'?
A Jew is one who publically and/or privately identifies as a Jew.

The Jews are the people who wrote and were formed by the Talmud and Torah. A "Jewish atheist" and "non-observant Jew" are as much a product of these books as is a religious Jew.

The "and/or" is to account both for those Jews who don't advertise their Jewishness (who like being mistaken as non-Jewish) and those Jews who will not admit, if pressed, to being Jewish.

If I were to go after Jews my criteria would be to go after overt Jews and pro-Jewish non-Jews (who are often cryptos). Another method to ferret out cryptos would be to go after people who are not outspokenly pro-Jewish, but who exhibit a pattern of falling in lockstep with prevailing Jewish tendencies. I would also go after people who pose as anti-Jewish, but do so in such a way as to delegitimize the moral righteousness of anti-Jewishness. Andrew Anglin comes to mind as just such a type.

The result would be that I would be able to ferret out most cryptos (maybe all). Using these methods there would be some non-Jews who would be singled out. But only low-quality Noahide non-Jews could be mistaken for Jews, so no quality non-Jews would be in danger.

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Daniel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:03 am

If I were to go after Jews my criteria would be to go after overt Jews and pro-Jewish non-Jews (who are often cryptos). Another method to ferret out cryptos would be to go after people who are not outspokenly pro-Jewish, but who exhibit a pattern of falling in lockstep with prevailing Jewish tendencies. I would also go after people who pose as anti-Jewish, but do so in such a way as to delegitimize the moral righteousness of anti-Jewishness. Andrew Anglin comes to mind as just such a type.
Unless you were a policeman, a secret policeman you would not be authorized to hunt Jude. If you caught your hunted Jude, what would you do with them? Would you educate them, imprison them or would they be worth a nice infusion of cyanide.

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The Catholic Church has always been the ultimate controlled opposition.

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Daniel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:03 am
been-there wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:26 am
What is your definition of 'Jewish' and your criteria for distinguishing someone as 'Jewish'?
A Jew is one who publically and/or privately identifies as a Jew.

...If I were to go after Jews my criteria would be to go after...

...Another method to ferret out cryptos would be to go after people who...

...I would also go after people who pose as...

The result would be that I would be able to ferret out most cryptos (maybe all). Using these methods there would be some non-Jews who would be singled out. But only low-quality Noahide non-Jews could be mistaken for Jews, so no quality non-Jews would be in danger.
:o :?

Why would you want to "go after" and “ferret out” anybody for these criteria??

What danger would they be in?

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Freya wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:50 am
The Catholic Church has always been the ultimate controlled opposition.
If you mean the Catholic Church has functioned as a front for Jews throughout its history, and not just in modern times, it's possible, but I'd like to see this claim fleshed out.

I would say that if the Church has never been a true enemy of the Jews then I can't think of any powerful Western group that ever has been.

The Church does have a track record of sanctioning the expelling of Jews from many states over the last 1500 years. Burning Talmuds in public. Some popes made Jews wear special symbols on their clothing so as to distinguish them from non-Jews.

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been-there and huntinger, such people would be in danger of being expelled.

"Why would you want to "go after" and “ferret out” anybody for these criteria??"

Because they're Jewish or useful idiots of Jews. I'm surprised you would even ask the question. You're not anti-Jewish?

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Daniel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:26 pm
I'm surprised you would even ask the question. You're not anti-Jewish?
Definitely not!

In my view, all self-identities are an abstract mental construct that then takes on material manifestations but originates in people's minds only.
As I see it, we are all just human beings having identical or very similar strengths and weaknessess, foibles and tendencies, desires and aversions. The small differences being dependent mostly upon our upbringing by our parents, families and societies.

I'm not anti-anyone. I might be against certain attitudes, habits and even group propensities but never against the persons having them. We are all the victims of our circumstances to a large extent. Circumstances that at the national, group and family level are out of our control until we are adults. Then only can we take more responsibility for our inherited attitudes and any resulting actions, based upon them.
In my experience, most people are unable to do that.
Most people are unable to even see that their opinions, attitudes, beliefs and desires/aversions are not really theirs but are based upon decades of conditioning that they weren't aware of.
I think maybe people have to have become aware of this to some extent at a young age, to be able to identitify and have some awareness of their own conditioning upon reaching mental maturity. Then only is there a possibility of learning to either choose to let it unconsciously run us, or to learn to understand it and when necessary resist it.

Y'see I don't think anyone can ever totally remove that conditioning from childhood. The values and attitudes we are conditioned with become hardwired into our being over time. Which is why we need to continually be re-assessing ourselves and our attitudes, our thought patterns, and our resultant behaviour.

In the past that was channeled according to our inherited religions and their thinking. And even that was affected by our locality's particular cultural values. I.e. in the same way you maintain a house or a garden, by constant and habitual maintenance, care and attention, religions gave people some idea of a need to watch their own behaviour and thought patterns as a ‘spiritual’ exercise routine for the benefit of their eternal 'soul' and for a reward in an expected after-life.
Now in our more secular age, such self-awareness and mental hygiene is in either the domain of self-improvement motivations, or in psychanalyis at moments of crisis, or — for most people — not considered at all.

So I am not anti any group or religion or ethnicity or nationality. You get people of different levels of morality, maturity, intelligence, self-awareness, philanthropy, courage, etc., in every grouping. Some Jews I know of I consider to be much better people than I am.
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