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What are your political views?

Post by Mr. KnowItAll » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:29 pm

What are your political views?

What made you come to those political views? Were there any books, documentaries, films or anything in particular which made you start to believe in a certain idea or ideas?
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Re: What are your political views?

Post by rollo the ganger » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:07 pm

Mr. KnowItAll wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:29 pm
What are your political views?

What made you come to those political views? Were there any books, documentaries, films or anything in particular which made you start to believe in a certain idea or ideas?
Why don't you take your nonsense over to the Skepticsforum site? I'm sure they'd appreciate it more than we do here.

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Re: What are your political views?

Post by Scott » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:41 am

Okay, I'll go.

In broad strokes, I'm an Atheist and consider myself Nationalist, Isolationist/non-Interventionist, and Progressive--although the latter position I don't announce much anymore because Leftists have severely discredited the terminology and even the concept. Today egg-sucking Liberals call themselves "Progressives" mainly because it sounds better than turd-bird Liberal. I'm also a Technophile--not that technology can solve all our problems, but that we should be trying to solve our problems in the first place, and then certainly in part with tools such as what we call technology. I also consider myself Race-realist, and I think that Society is built upon the mutual framework and supporting foundations of Race, Nation-State, the Family, and Culture.

I tend to think that classical-liberalism with its runaway rampage towards ever more "Rights" without "Responsibility," will inevitably and ultimately extrapolate to either nihilism and anarchy or flat-out Communism. This can already be seen with the Establishment push towards cultural-Marxism and social lunacy such as gender "fluidity," along with rudderless corporate Globalization and soulless consumerism--with escalating resource exhaustion and despoliation. Just call it Globohomo for short. Today intellectuals deliberately eschew enlightenment for degeneracy, and artists deliberately cultivate filth and decadence for edgy aesthetics and culture.

Where fifty years ago leaders set goals and scientists and technocrats even landed explorers on the Moon, what we do now is wait for the flatulent surprise in store via the more prurient decay coming tomorrow than we could ever hardly have even imagined today.

Where fifty years ago young men were obligated to serve their country, now you would have to reject most conscripts for being too obese for the Army, and with a profoundly stunted maturity. And girls in particular are taught today to embrace dysfunction and alienation with gratitude in the guise of liberation and empathy.

Younger generations are told in their Online echo chambers that the Baby Boomers took everything away from them and that it is they who ruined everything. But these brainwashed young adults today--all plugged into their glowing skynet screens nearly all hours of the day and night--are actually more isolated and alienated than any generation that passed before. And far too many adults today live in this bizarre extended childhood that immunizes them against exercising any kind of critical-thinking skills that might be applied to their own lives--let alone to broader problems. These youths are far more knowledgeable about comic book conventions and "caped-crusader" shtick than able to convincingly apply themselves productively to any endeavor other than to consume product and bellyache about Social (In-)Justice.

Unfortunately, before we can get back to building civilization, we have to get back to draining swamps and clearing noxious weeds; better to sweep the fields with ropes, bullets, fire, and poison gas than to sacrifice the realm entirely.

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Re: What are your political views?

Post by been-there » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:47 am

Scott wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:41 am
Okay, I'll go.

In broad strokes, I consider myself Nationalist, Isolationist/non-Interventionist, and Progressive--although the latter position I don't announce much anymore because Leftists have severely discredited the terminology and even the concept. Today egg-sucking Liberals call themselves "Progressives" mainly because it sounds better than turd-bird Liberal. I'm also a Technophile--not that technology can solve all our problems, but that we should be trying to solve our problems in the first place, and then certainly in part with tools such as that we call technology. I also consider myself Race-realist, and think that Society is built upon the mutual framework and supporting foundations of the Race, the Nation-State, the Family, and the Culture.

I tend to think that classical-liberalism with its runaway rampage towards ever more "Rights" without "Responsibility," will inevitably and ultimately extrapolate to either nihilism and anarchy or flat-out Communism. This can already be seen with the Establishment push towards cultural-Marxism and social lunacy such as gender fluidity, along with rudderless corporate Globalization and soulless consumerism--with escalating resource exhaustion and despoliation. Just call it Globohomo for short. Today intellectuals deliberately eschew enlightenment for degeneracy, and artists deliberately cultivate filth and decadence for edgy aesthetics and culture.

Where fifty years ago leaders set goals and scientists and technocrats even landed explorers on the Moon, what we do now is wait for the flatulent surprise in store via the more prurient decay coming tomorrow than we could ever hardly have even imagined today. Where fifty years ago young men were obligated to serve their country, now you would have to reject most conscripts for being too obese for the Army, and with a profoundly stunted maturity.

Younger generations are told in their Online echo chambers that the Baby Boomers took everything away from them and that it is they who ruined everything. But these brainwashed young adults today--all plugged into their glowing skynet screens nearly all hours of the day and night--are actually more isolated and alienated than any generation that passed before. And far too many adults today live in this bizarre extended childhood that immunizes them against exercising any kind of critical-thinking skills that might be applied to their own lives--let alone to broader problems. These youths are far more knowledgeable about comic book conventions and "caped-crusader" shtick than able to convincingly apply themselves productively to any endeavor other than to consume product and bellyache about Social (In-)Justice.
I presume you know that what you are describing there is North America.
That — fortunately —is not an accurate description of other English speaking nations nor of Europe as I know it and have experienced it. Apparently all that doesn't even apply to Canada.
The problem for America and many Americans seems to be that most know little to nothing of how human society and life is outside of America. Yet many think everywhere else must be the same as what they experience.

Also your use of the word liberal is also peculiar to Americans. It has a different meaning in Europe. As does the word socialism. :)
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Re: What are your political views?

Post by Scott » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:04 am

Yes, but Western Civilization suffers from the same general disease, regardless of whether it is in Europe, America, or the rest of the Anglosphere. That's why Europeans can't keep aliens out any more than Americans can control their borders.

I don't have a problem with Socialism as long as it is defined in terms friendly to Race and Nation and is economically realistic.

I would prefer to describe Leftists or proto-Communists in terms other than "Liberal," which can have many meanings including broad-mindedness, but the fact is that in modern times most of the people who can be called this hold totalitarian and shockingly incurious views, and they are essentially little more than the nihilistic enforcers of conformity who have been focused mainly to carry water for corporate Globohomo.

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Re: What are your political views?

Post by been-there » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:54 am

Scott wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:04 am
"Liberal" . .can have many meanings including broad-mindedness, but the fact is that in modern times most of the people who can be called this hold totalitarian and shockingly incurious views, and they are essentially little more than the nihilistic enforcers of conformity who have been focused mainly to carry water for corporate Globohomo.
Again, that isn't true of anywhere outside of north America, ...and I must confess I doubt if its true even there. ;)

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Post by Scott » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:11 pm

Well, the "historical Revisionist" Columbia University Prof. Harry Elmer Barnes memorably wrote about the totalitarian-liberals (his coinage).

Prof. Barnes was talking about warmongers like Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr. and many others. He concentrated on Orwellian aspects in historiography and journalism and was particularly focused upon the War-Guilt question for both of the World Wars.

It is important to note that Barnes was mostly a historical Revisionist, not a Holocaust Revisionist, although he did express some doubts about the concentration camp propaganda and homicidal gas-chambers in some of his later writings.

Prof. Barnes was mentioned by Holocaust Theologian Prof. Deborah Lipstadt in some of her works, and called him not just a historical Revisionist but a Holocaust Revisionist--and therefore a Holocaust Denier (her coinage).

Like Prof. Charles A. Beard before him, Barnes was an old school type of Liberal--what Americans might call a Libertarian today. Libertarians can be Right-wing or Left-Wing.

Prof. Charles A. Beard was actually the leader of the Progressive school of Historiography at Columbia in the early 20th century, which necessarily drew upon Marxist thought, although Beard was not a Marxist himself. At the time of Beard's scholarship, Marx was one of the few historians who actually saw history in terms of economic forces and not other things like Thomas Carlyle's Great Man theory of History.

Beard wrote the classic An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution of the United States (1913), which is a classic. Beard's thesis was that the Founding Fathers were not demigods but were motivated by ordinary economic rationales and not necessary Divine guidance, as per traditional American historiography which was hugely in terms of (American) Exceptionalism.

Since Charles Beard was an academic historian who had "authentic" Liberal or Progressive credentials, he made a formidable critic of Franklin Roosevelt and his scheme to involve the United States into the Second War War. For this Beard was consigned to the Orwellian Memory Hole and his work almost forgotten. The Neoconservative (former Communist) Prof. Richard Hofstadter rebranded much of the works of American historians Charles Beard and Frederick Jackson Turner and recast American Exceptionalism into a mythology that serves the cause of what Prof. Barnes easily would have called totalitarian-Liberalism, even if advocated by Conservatives such as George Bush, Jr.

The late Prof. Hofstadter wrote a famous essay basically arguing that American historical has been characterized by anti-intellectualism and the "paranoid style." This forum's former Administrator and lead moderator Dr. Nick Terry, hails from the UK, and he cited Hofstadter's essays on not a few occasions as I recall. I suppose it is tempting for Europeans to seen Americans as crackpots.

Btw, Hofstadter's widow married Theodore H. White, a Jewish historian and journalist who covered the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, and wrote the classic Thunder Out of China (1946) which lionized the Communist Chinese. White was a fierce critics of Senator Josephy McCarthy, where the term McCarthyite comes from, because the Senator notably criticized American policies in China and after World War II, and investigated Communist agents and fellow-travelers in the U.S. State Department and Department of Defense. White also was a Kennedy Liberal who coined the term "Camelot," to describe that those times, which is why I referred to him in the long thread on the Kennedy assassination on this forum not so long ago. American Liberalism never really recovered from the Kennedy assassination, as I have argued elsewhere.

It is not Black or White, and I never said that it wasn't complicated. That is why a deep study of (real) History--and associated discussion and debate--is so important. Otherwise we get George Santayana's scolding admonition: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

In this week's Takismag, the Online Paleoconservative news magazine, editor Jim Goad has an interesting article on Totalitarian Liberals (he calls them ethical retards instead). Unfortunately, instead of billionaires and plutocrats this article mainly concerns low-level punks like the so-called Antifa (the Anti-Fascists), but the journalistic establish is fully implicated. And today, instead of Leftists killing "Fascists" with folk-songs and Woody Guthrie's acoustic guitar, they throw frozen milkshakes and use crowbars at people they think are engaging in Wrongthink. In an odd twist, some of these supposed Fascists are more like Asian twinks than Storm Troopers. I suggest that the readers of this forum read Mr. Goad's new article:

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Re: What are your political views?

Post by Huntinger » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 pm

Scott wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:11 pm
I suppose it is tempting for Europeans to seen Americans as crackpots.
Yup :lol:
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it
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This must certainly account for "Flippers" viewpoints.
low-level punks like the so-called Antifa (the Anti-Fascists)
These low level punks protest against Neo-Nazis, Neo-fascism, white supremacists and racism, and these days the movement that encapsulates some of those ideas: the alt-right. They are known to use violence and so are no different to the groups they deride.
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Re: What are your political views?

Post by Scott » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:58 pm

Huntinger wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 pm
Scott wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:11 pm
low-level punks like the so-called Antifa (the Anti-Fascists)


These low level punks protest against Neo-Nazis, Neo-fascism, white supremacists and racism, and these days the movement that encapsulates some of those ideas: the alt-right. They are known to use violence and so are no different to the groups they deride.


Notice that the red white and black is the same as the colours of the Reich.

https://i.imgur.com/K5tVuji.png

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Except that "Rightwing" groups do not use violence for the most part; that is a calumny made against them.

The only people that used violence at the Charlottesville, VA protest in 2017 to save the statue of the venerable General of the Army of Northern Virginia, Robert E. Lee, were Leftists (and the police did nothing).

There was lots of talk about Nazis but nobody could really define what this even meant without going to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which itself is a Hate group. Also, while the media uses the term Alt-Right, they don't know what this means, and most of the so-called Alt-Right groups are Alt-Lite at best.

These Antifa Leftists, I saw them up close when they were following David Irving around the country in pre-President Trump days--are basically tattooed, scruffy White kids who dropped out of school and are supported by their parents and imagine to be fighting Hate but are in reality (at best) the enforcers of Globohomo. Portland is an overwhelmingly White city full of Liberal whackadoodles that are getting away with all sorts of violent assaults.

Jim Goad, author of the Redneck Manifesto, is an independent journalist and publisher with some ties to the music scene--and who used to live in Portland, has talked about his connections to skinheads and punks from both the Left and the Right. Methinks that Mr. Goad, who was raised Catholic and basically has their number.

I predict that the Antifa are going to overplay their hand and then get stomped down hard by the police. But that will only be an excuse to come after the Right.

The important thing is that although the United States still has First Amendment protections for the time being, it is becoming increasingly difficult to assert these rights. However, there are some lawsuits against the SPLC currently underway which are encouraging, for example.

Regarding the European situation, it seems very dire to me--especially in the UK.

There is a podcast called the The Europa Report on the therightstuff.biz network that is free, I think.

http://europareport.libsyn.com/website

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Post by Turnagain » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:24 am

Scott wrote:
Except that "Rightwing" groups do not use violence for the most part; that is a calumny made against them.
The "Rightwing" or "Alt-Right" is a paper tiger. Real power in the US resides in the left whether it's called "Republican" or "Democrat". The Left is, for the most part, a creature of Jew influence. The Jew's policy is open borders and the replacement of the White majority in all Western countries while retaining their ethnic homogeneity in Israel. That is not a new phenomenon. (((Emanuel Celler))) began his crusade to overturn the Reed/Johnson Immigration act of 1924 in the late 20s and his efforts culminated in the Hart/Celler Immigration Reform Act of 1965. Spearheaded by (((Celler))) in the House and (((Jacob Javits))) in the Senate they used the drunken, drug-addled Teddy Kennedy as a mouthpiece and Phillipe Hart to shield their piece of treason from being seen as an all Jew affair.

The Hart/Celler was sold to the American sheeple as a minor adjustment that would never alter the demographics of the 90% White America. After the holyhoax was introduced in the early 70s the new song and dance was that we shouldn't ever deny entrance to the poor, downtrodden victims of war and tyranny. It was also during the 70s that Nixon was forced to abandon the gold standard which gave total control of the US currency to the Jew controlled Federal Reserve. Kennedy had attempted to take back control of the US currency by issuing silver certificates but that effort was nipped in the bud in 1963.

Meanwhile the Jews continued to consolidate their control over the media. Things were going swimmingly with Reagan's first amnesty of illegal aliens. Hey, it was guaranteed that it would be the only amnesty ever and besides it was "only" about one million people. Well, actually, (heh-heh) it turned out to be three million plus but it was a foot in the door, a camel's nose in the tent. Then came NAFTA and the great sucking sound. The new mantra was, "The US is now a service economy. It's a done deal so get over it". Yeah, learn to code if you want a job.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Jews needed a new bogeyman for the US sheeple and voila', we were provided with one with 9/11. Quelle surprise. The "War on Terrah" began and, under the direction of the Jews, we began our military adventures in the Mideast. That killed two birds with one stone. Israel's goals were advanced while providing oodles of refugees to flood into the US. Meanwhile, the Southern border was left open for poor, economically disadvantaged Mexicans to come to the US for the jobs that White people wouldn't do anymore. The media informed us that only racists and neo-Nazis would ever oppose the flood of poor, downtrodden refugees fleeing from their own holyhoaxes and deny the economically disadvantaged their daily bread.

So we stagger and blunder along under the direction of the Jews with the "Far Right" gnashing its paper teeth and electing Trump to MAGA. Yessiree, we gonna' build that wall and deport the illegal alien Mexicans, at least a few thousand of them. Meanwhile, the majority of newborns in the US are named "Mohammed" or "Jose" and congress is making way for the pajeets with millions of new H1-b visas and H5 visas for the Chinese. Vast majorities for that in both houses of Congress while Trump is waiting with pen poised, ready and willing to affix his carefully crafted signature to another piece of treason.

While a few of us rant ineffectually on such websites as RODOH, VOAT et al., the Jews assume control of the billions of users on social media such as facebook, twitter and youtube. Yep, gonna' clean up that mess created by letting a little free speech exist until the monopolies were established. Now it's time to exercise some rightful control over the goyim. Any racist neo-Naizis who don't like it can go watch a movie from netflix or a hockey game. Or somepin'.

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