More lefty Jews pushing hatred of white middle class

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More lefty Jews pushing hatred of white middle class

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Goody67 wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:38 pm
Werd,

The opinion of one Jew does not represent what all Jews think about immigration.

I can easily post interviews and texts of native British people advocating for mass immigration and open borders.
I also do not contest that many native Brits ask for immigration. The question is, where does that come from? Why do the education systems and media and politicians push the garbage that is mass immigration? Because they apparently have to prove to the world (and the Jews who survived world war two) that they aren't racist. Jews have been pushing for open borders in so many countries for so long and telling people to go along with it because Jews survive in a pluralist society and aren't threatened by a holocaust. In other words, if you don't support mass immigration, you are as bad as the Nazis. Doubt me? Look at the loony lefty SJW's that claim to be on the side of Jews and against Nazis and yet ignore what the Muslims are doing in Europe to not only European women but also Jews. That's how bad the anti German, anti nationalist, holocaust brainwashing has become. If you don't support open borders, you're like the Nazis and other countries that didn't do a thing to rescue Jews in the 40's. Problem is a lot of Jewish women and children needed a place to hide. Many of the Muslims coming over here are NOT WOMEN AND CHILDREN FLEEING LABOUR CAMPS, but they are young angry and horny men. So in fact, many idiotic regressive Jews are doing a dis-service to their own people when they compare young angry, raping Muslim male immigrants to Jewish women and children fleeing persecution.

I'm surprised more intelligent, older, more conservative Jews aren't offended by this. At least Michael Savage, Ben Shapiro and Dave Howorwitz don't have their heads up their asses about the problems of Muslim immigration. Unfortunately, they also know that the reason Gentiles sat back and did nothing was because of the Jews brow-beating them psychologically into accepting too much immigration. This is what they don't want to get out. That is why many Jews are coming to the forefront now acting like they suddenly care about how bad multiculturalism can be when years ago, they were the ones pushing for it. I guess that means only Jews can tell the world what to do with their borders while Jews get to decide what to do with Israel.

Again, it's hypocrisy that people don't like. And if Jews keep denying this hypocrisy and saying, "Racist. Bigot. Anti Semite. You hate me because I'm Jewish," then people WILL IN FACT BEGIN TO THINK that you act this way BECAUSE of your Jewish culture. So Jews by their own behaviour are creating a nasty self fulfilling prophecy and creating modern anti semitism. If more would stop being such cultural parasites and distorters, people wouldn't dislike them. If more Jews took the position on immigration and multiculturalism that Michael Savage, Ben Shapiro and David Horowitz did, they would not be so disliked. Like I said, they need to get on the right side of things if they want to stem the tide of anti semitism.

A Jew confesses Jewry's "pro immigration" sins
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This topic contains MANY EXAMPLES of Jews who push for open borders everywhere else except Israel. It's not Jews I have a problem with. It's political hypocrisy dressed up as virtue and morality.

And also this debate with Nessie where I cited Rabbi Efrat and other rabbis who preach open borders for other countries, but not Israel.
Werd wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:00 pm
Here is another example of how Nessie likes to destroy Rodoh.

By ignoring evidence that is in front of him and ignoring direct quotations from certain people in question and still pretending he, and nobody else can know what this certain person thinks about a certain issue. Even though they just said it. Nessie also pretends that he doesn't understand synonymous language and that you can imply a belief or a statement in more ways than just one explicit way.

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He just doesn't like when more clever people like me use the Socratic method and rhetoric to construct reductio ad absurdums against them and cause their own arguments to collapse from internal inconsistency.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68synHItMpg

Who are all of these "white people" that allegedly identify as white that are teaching and preaching hatred of the white middle class - The one obstacle to the new world order conspiracy? What tribe do many of these politicians, professors and intellectuals come from? Why can nobody call a spade a spade?

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Anetta Kahane was another example pumping out anti white middle class propaganda.
Parenting Magazine Warns ‘Blond, Cheerful’ Families Dangerous, Likely Right Wing
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09 ... ous-right/

This women does not identify as white even though she looks it. In truth, she is just another communist Jew. An intellectual descendant of the Jewish Frankfurt school of thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane
Kahane was born in East Berlin in 1954 to Max Kahane and Doris Kahane. Her father Max Kahane was a member of Young Communist League and later the Communist party of Germany. Because her parents were Jewish and active in communism they had to flee the Nazi regime to Spain and later France.[1] She is the sister of the film director Peter Kahane.

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Since 1998, Anetta Kahane served as the president and the founder of the Amadeu Antonio Foundation.[4] Her organisation works against xenophobia, antisemitism and right-wing extremism. In 2012 she was awarded the Moses Mendelssohn prize.
She still preaches open borders.

People like her haven't said WORD ONE about Muslim crime in European countries. How did feminism get so messed up that it had to start blaming European victims of Muslim rape or ignoring them? How did feminism go from protecting white women's rights to vote and divorce and abusive husband in the early to mid 1900's PRE MASSIVE IMMIGRATION in the 1960's? Who could have turned feminism against nationalism and looking after their own kind first? Who could have twisted feminism into subverting taking care of your own first to taking care of the world? What marxist twits could have done this? WHAT KIND OF WRITERS took over feminism in the 60's after world war two and from then on infiltrated and pushed multiculturalism for whites, but never for their "homeland" because they may be supposedly killed by the Palestini...oops, I gave it away.

The reason Jews were hated was because of what they did in Weimar Germany. They flooded the streets with dope and pornography. Germans didn't want it. It corrupted their culture. More often than not, Jews have earned anti semitism.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/24 ... r-germany/
http://www.darkmoon.me/2011/7462/

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Noel Ignatiev is another one from the tribe pumping out hatred against white middle class.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev


Ignatiev's web site and publication Race Traitor display the motto "treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity". In response to a letter to the site which understood the motto as meaning that the authors "hated" white people because of their "white skin", Ignatiev and the other editors responded:

We do not hate you or anyone else for the color of her skin. What we hate is a system that confers privileges (and burdens) on people because of their color. It is not fair skin that makes people white; it is fair skin in a certain kind of society, one that attaches social importance to skin color. When we say we want to abolish the white race, we do not mean we want to exterminate people with fair skin. We mean that we want to do away with the social meaning of skin color, thereby abolishing the white race as a social category. Consider this parallel: To be against royalty does not mean wanting to kill the king. It means wanting to do away with crowns, thrones, titles, and the privileges attached to them. In our view, whiteness has a lot in common with royalty: they are both social formations that carry unearned advantages.[9]

In September 2002, Harvard Magazine published an excerpt from When Race Becomes Real: Black and White Writers Confront Their Personal Histories, edited by Bernestine Singley, about Ignatiev's role in launching Race Traitor.[2] In the excerpt, Ignatiev wrote that "[t]he goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists."[2] He wrote that the magazine's editors were frequently accused of being racists or part of a hate group, to which his "standard response" was "to draw an analogy with anti-royalism: to oppose monarchy does not mean killing the king; it means getting rid of crowns, thrones, royal titles, etc."[2] Ignatiev also wrote, "[t]he editors meant it when they replied to a reader, 'Make no mistake about it: we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as "the white race" is destroyed—not "deconstructed" but destroyed.'"[2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90kmUbEv7c


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Wise was born in Nashville, Tennessee, to Michael Julius Wise and LuCinda Anne (née McLean) Wise. His paternal grandfather was Jewish (of Russian origin), while the rest of his ancestry is northern European, including some Scottish.[4][5] Wise has said that when he was about 12 years old his synagogue was attacked by white supremacists.[6]


[6] Tim Wise on Race and Racism in America; The Rock Newman Show (44-47 min. mark); December 10, 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Wise

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http://jvoices.com/2008/10/07/im-not-white-im-jewish/





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I’m not white, I’m Jewish

7Oct2008 Filed under: Jewish Identity, Race Author: Aliza Hausman

“I’m Not White, I’m Jewish” is the name of the song featured in the YouTube video above. The rap song has clear sociological issues. As the performing artist strums along to his guitar, the camera pans around the room of Jewish preteens. And almost every face in the room? White, of course. But hey, as the song claims, “I’m not White, I’m Jewish.”

It’s no secret that signs across the United States used to read “No Niggers, No Jews.” But at some point in time, Jews started to enjoy the benefits of white privilege in America. It is that same white privilege that the song attempts to deny. Who wants to be white when whiteness seems to equal racism? Who wants to be white if that somehow takes away from Jewish identity?

But things are much more complicated than that. At least, they are in America.

White is a race. Jewish is an ethnicity. Not all Jews are white. America has a complicated racial landscape. It insists on singular cookie cutter identities when people are actually enjoy rich swirls of racial and ethnic identification. There are white Hispanics and black Hispanics, because Hispanic is also an ethnicity. Still Hispanics across the board do not enjoy white privilege…unless, that is, they can “pass” for white.

Somewhere along the line, Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews started passing for white. And it is these Jews that enjoy white privilege. Though they’ll try to deny it. Why? Shame. The same shame that any self-respecting white person has about America and Europe’s history of racism. So, instead of associating themselves with racism at all, they deny their whiteness and their white privilege. If I went around denying that I was Hispanic or Jewish, would anyone take me seriously?

My husband and I read many books on racism together to try to understand where the other was coming from. My husband became irate when reading on particular book that focused on institutionalized racism. “What the hell is that?” He was infuriated by the idea that he was somehow complicit in institutionalized racism. It took years of being in an interracial relationship before he realized that in many ways, we are all complicit. He noted that institutionalized racism even comes in a Shampoo bottle that you see every day at the drugstore. It says that pin straight hair is “normal” and anything otherwise, is not.

White Jews, despite their whiteness, enjoy a privilege that other whites do not. Despite looking white, they are still considered the Other. They are not the Protestant Christians one thinks about when they picture “American.” They, like other minorities, identify as a hyphenate. They’ll announce…“Hi, I’m a Jewish-American,” the way I tell people I’m a “Latina-American-Jew.” Jews ARE different than other whites.

Still, it’s one thing to focus on one part of one’s identity. In the Hispanic grocery store, I’m a Latina first, an American Jew second. In synagogue, I’m a Jew first, an American Latina second. It’s quite another thing to deny part of one’s identity, “I’m not white,” because of discomfort or because one sees themselves as something else.

Face it, in America, how one sees themselves is only part of the equation, how one is perceived is the other.

That’s why in America, Barack Obama is just black, instead of the more politically (and biologically) correct term: “BIRACIAL.”

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Now I can't find this article, but I will try. Suffice to say, I think at least one clip has been quoted in a separate article on the web.

For those who do see Jews as a distinctive group, many complicated factors might shape their views. For example: If Jews generally lack racial awareness, as Schwartz contends, that may exacerbate the hostility of the far left. “I think it’s important for Jews to become more aware of their white privilege—[it’s] one of the problems Jews have had in relating to African Americans,” said Goldstein. This has often come up specifically over the issue of Israel: Some Jews have found themselves at odds, for example, with those black activists who describe Israel’s actions toward Palestinians as a form of global white supremacy, interpreting that racialized language as offensive.

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“‘White’ is a kind of cultural construct—a way of thinking of yourself, and a way that other people think about you,” said Goldstein. “Whiteness itself is a very fluid and contested category.”

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“‘White’ is a kind of cultural construct—a way of thinking of yourself, and a way that other people think about you,” said Goldstein. “Whiteness itself is a very fluid and contested category.” Race is not just a matter of skin pigmentation or ethnic background. It is determined by both individuals and their observers, and the boundaries of who’s in or out of one group or another change constantly.

So, are Jews white? “There’s really no conclusion except that it’s complicated,” said Goldstein. This is not the kind of question that searches for an answer, though. It’s a question designed to illuminate. It can be difficult to understand why many, although not all, Jews are scared of what’s to come in a Trump administration. Even Goldstein, who studies Judaism and anti-Semitism for a living, said he finds it “hard to believe … that Jews are in any real danger of losing their status in American society. Jews today are integrated into all of the mainstream institutions of American life: They’ve held the presidencies of all the major universities that once restricted their entrance; they are disproportionately represented in all the branches of government.”

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“It’s not that unprecedented that groups of disillusioned, disaffected populations of workers … lash out and use Jews as a scapegoat for problems that are really caused by a quickly changing society,” said Goldstein. “It is instructive to know that Jews have been in situations in which they were integrated and had status, and that hasn’t necessarily protected them. Sometimes, it makes them vulnerable.”



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... te/509453/
And another.
Eric Goldstein, an associate professor of history at Emory University who wrote a book on the subject (“The Price of Whiteness”), is a prominent voice in The Atlantic magazine’s treatment.

“ ‘White’ is a kind of cultural construct — a way of thinking of yourself and a way that other people think about you,” said Goldstein, a scholar of American Jewish history and culture. “Whiteness itself is a very fluid and contested category.”

Are Jewish and white mutually exclusive categories?

Jewish identity in the United States “is inherently paradoxical and contradictory. What you have is a group that was historically considered, and considered itself, an outsider group, a persecuted minority. In the space of two generations, they’ve become one of the most successful, integrated groups in American society — by many accounts, part of the establishment. And there’s a lot of dissonance between those two positions,” Goldstein said.

https://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrae ... omplicated
Plus:
The Price of Whiteness Jews, Race, and American Identity Eric L. Goldstein



What has it meant to be Jewish in a nation preoccupied with the categories of black and white? The Price of Whiteness documents the uneasy place Jews have held in America's racial culture since the late nineteenth century. The book traces Jews' often tumultuous encounter with race from the 1870s through World War II, when they became vested as part of America's white mainstream and abandoned the practice of describing themselves in racial terms.

American Jewish history is often told as a story of quick and successful adaptation, but Goldstein demonstrates how the process of identifying as white Americans was an ambivalent one, filled with hard choices and conflicting emotions for Jewish immigrants and their children. Jews enjoyed a much greater level of social inclusion than African Americans, but their membership in white America was frequently made contingent on their conformity to prevailing racial mores and on the eradication of their perceived racial distinctiveness. While Jews consistently sought acceptance as whites, their tendency to express their own group bonds through the language of "race" led to deep misgivings about what was required of them.

Today, despite the great success Jews enjoy in the United States, they still struggle with the constraints of America's black-white dichotomy. The Price of Whiteness concludes that while Jews' status as white has opened many doors for them, it has also placed limits on their ability to assert themselves as a group apart.

Eric L. Goldstein is associate professor of history and Jewish studies at Emory University. He is also the editor of the quarterly scholarly journal American Jewish History.

https://press.princeton.edu/titles/8212.html

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Paula S. Rothenberg was a Senior Fellow at The Murphy Institute, City University of New York and Professor at William Patterson University of New Jersey. From 1989 to 2006 she served as Director of The New Jersey Project on Inclusive Scholarship, Curriculum, and Teaching. She was the author of several books including the autobiographical *Invisible Privilege: A Memoir about Race, Class, and Gender*. With Worth Publishers she has authored four titles--the best-selling *Race, Class, and Gender*; White Privilege; Beyond Borders; and *What's the Problem? *She was also co-editor of a number of anthologies including *Creating and Inclusive College Curriculum: A Teaching Sourcebook from the New Jersey Project and Feminist Frameworks*: *Alternative Theoretical Accounts of the Relations between Women and Men*, one of the first women’s studies texts. Her articles and essays appear in journals and anthologies across the disciplines and have been widely reprinted. Her work was instrumental in the creation of women’s studies and multicultural studies as academic disciplines.


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Amazon review:
2.0 out of 5 starsIt's worse than Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos
Bycody ann bakeron November 9, 2017
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If you want an actual history book about the history of white folks in America that is well-researched, unbiased, and sensitive to the plight of all people groups--yet focused on the history of whites, read Nancy Isenberg's "White Trash: the 400 Year Untold History of Class in America".

This book is a collection of essays that are firmly rooted in the subjective and emotive experiences of the writers. Authors cite other authors' opinions as if referencing them makes their opinions facts. This book helped set the stage for the sort of academic thinking that eventually soured beyond redemption as it spilled into social media, creating the "white shame movement," and as a result we got the Alt-right and Donald Trump. The authors, no matter how well-meaning, display all of the symptoms of bigotry that they claim to be fighting. They exalt their emotions and opinions as if they are facts.

If you are considering taking a college course that requires this book, proceed with caution; you might be signing up for indoctrination more than education. It's worse than Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos, and it's the very sort of garbage that makes their polemics palatable.

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