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Were 6 million Jews a construct or reality

6 million Jews real
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6 million Jews a construct
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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It is suspected this one called Nessie is a another lying Jew.
I could be wrong.
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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Werd wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:36 am
You have yet to show...there is any significance to that and it is not just a coincidence.
What Nessie doesn't understand, or refuses to, is that how the religious mind works. We know of course God does not intervene in human events in the world. HOWEVER, the way the religious mind works is that if a Jew reads a kabbalistic prophecy that is centuries old and then POLITICAL EVENTS happen in such a way that the prophecy can be actualized, then that means GOD WANTS IT THAT WAY. It's about religious validation. And if it can happen through politics, then great for them. Two birds, one stone if you will.

Secondly Nessie, you're the one claiming the points we made about the gematria are all a coincidence. Nobody is buying your bullshit. The Gemetria for "you shall return" (minus 6 million) and the Hebrew year of 5708 translating into 1948! This was a fake, self fulfilling prophecy that humans actualized politically, which ALSO looked good to religious Jews who were looking to have their religion validated. Just like Christians who think that today's so called Jews are the ones being talked about by Jesus in the New Testament in certain verses, and so they have to stand back and let Zionism reign. I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT TO YOU SO STOP ASKING HOW OR WHY IT WAS DONE!
Zionist rabbis like Stephen Wise WHO HIMSELF CLAIMED SIX MILLION were not stupid. They knew Hebrew. They understood gematria. They knew their own religion. That's why they settled on 6 million and worked so hard to get Palestine. The fact that you question whether a Zionist rabbi knows Hebrew is silly.
I'm not doing that Werd. Of course a Zionist rabbi would know Hebrew and the grammar rules of Hebrew
Then stop feigning ignorance and pretending you don't see a connection with the gematria and the 6 million AND THE YEAR 1948 when Israel was founded! Stephen Wise claimed six million were under attack by Russia AND the Germans. He loves that kabbalistic 6. What rabbi who knows gematria and Hebrew wouldn't? :lol:

http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/ ... ystery.php
Referring to the Jews of Russia, noted activist Stephen Wise said this in 1900: “There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism” (Jun 11; p. 7). In 1901, the Chicago Daily Tribune reported on the “hopeless condition” of the “six million Jews in Russia” (Dec 22; p. 13). In 1905, Zionists began to fret that “Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews,” wasn’t promoting emigration (Jan 29; p. 2).
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This brings us to the Nazi era, where the ‘6 million’ appears once again—and long before World War II. The first reference comes just two months after Hitler assumed power in January 1933. The NYT reports on a “Hitler protest” vote by some local New York government officials. Rabbi Stephen Wise issued an appeal: “We in America have taken the lead in a battle for the preservation of German Jewry,” adding that his group “is now active in relief and reconstruction work in Eastern Europe where 6,000,000 Jews are involved” (Mar 29; p. 9).

Huntinger, no more responses to this lying troll, please. That's what he wants. MORE PAGES! Let it rest. The troll is only exposing himself further when he keeps saying, "but, but, muh four million. Muh 5 million too." It's not about what there was in the beginning, it's about what was SETTLED ON AND PROMOTED! Talking about the other thing is a red herring fallacy. That was already deemed logically irrelevant since Nessie admitted that six was settled on and promoted the most in media and education for decades. So he has no logical recourse to keep talking about his red herring argument. Let it drop, Huntinger. He is not rational and he is not honest.
So, if I predict that a football team will either score 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 goals in their next game and they score 3, it is because I plotted, planned and organised that team to score 3 goals. It is not just because that was the score at the end of the match. Got it.
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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This man has never heard of match fixing.

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Re: 6 Million Jews

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Trolljegeren wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:05 pm
This man has never heard of match fixing.
So, a Jewish cabal boasted before WWII it was going to have 6 million Jews killed and then with the cooperation of the Polish Underground, started rumours of mass killing. Then it got the cooperation of Nazis, during the war, to boast about liquidating the Jews and as the war was ending to only completely destroy evidence of mass resettlement from the AR camps. Then it got the cooperation of c5 to 5.5 million Jews to hide and play dead (possibly with the help of the Soviets) and immediately after the war, planted the 6 million figure in the public mind again.

Got it!
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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Nessie wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:25 am


So, a Jewish cabal boasted before WWII it was going to have 6 million Jews killed and then with the cooperation of the Polish Underground, started rumours of mass killing. Then it got the cooperation of Nazis, during the war, to boast about liquidating the Jews and as the war was ending to only completely destroy evidence of mass resettlement from the AR camps. Then it got the cooperation of c5 to 5.5 million Jews to hide and play dead (possibly with the help of the Soviets) and immediately after the war, planted the 6 million figure in the public mind again.

Got it!
Quite a work of fiction in this mans head almost equal to the work of Tolkien. Yes the Polish spy in collusion with the Polish government in exile did lie as a legitimate war tactic. Only you are saying there was cooperation with the Reich government who has not boasted anything. The Einsatz camps were put back to the existing state as was Reich policy after their puposes of transiting was done: this is normal today with major works. The Soviets did not help but were part of the fabrication to hide their own crimes after assimilation of Europse.

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Your story is still an unevidenced conspiracy theory.
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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Nessie wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:55 pm
Your story is still an unevidenced conspiracy theory.

Following the Soviet invasion of Poland, Stalin began a policy of relocating Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and other parts of Siberia. Throughout the war, similar movements were executed in regions considered vulnerable to Nazi invasion with the various target ethnic groups of the Nazi internments. When these populations reached their destinations, work was oftentimes arduous and they were subjected to poor conditions due to lack of resources caused by the war effort.
Many perished

This is where your Jews went. Assimilation.
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However, the topic is about the 6 million claims prior to the war. A controversial ultra-Orthodox rabbi based in New York has said that fewer that one million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, claiming most of those counted among the usually cited figure of six million were not Jewish according to rabbinical law. In a video posted online, Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi can be seen saying that high assimilation rates in pre-war Europe and broad Nazi definitions have exaggerated the numbers of Jews recorded as killed by the Nazis during the Holocaust. At least five million of the six million were “total goyim,” Mizrachi told the crowd, adopting a Hebrew word for non-Jews that many consider pejorative.
“The truth, I am telling you, is that not even one million Jews were murdered,” Mizrachi said, trashing accepted historical accounts. “A lot of non-Jews were meshed into the count, but in truth, how many Jews really were killed?”
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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NSDAP wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:20 pm
Nessie wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:55 pm
Your story is still an unevidenced conspiracy theory.

Following the Soviet invasion of Poland, Stalin began a policy of relocating Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and other parts of Siberia. Throughout the war, similar movements were executed in regions considered vulnerable to Nazi invasion with the various target ethnic groups of the Nazi internments. When these populations reached their destinations, work was oftentimes arduous and they were subjected to poor conditions due to lack of resources caused by the war effort.
Many perished

This is where your Jews went. Assimilation.
source one
Source two
You keep getting mixed up. The issue is where did the Jews under Nazi control end up? Not the ones under Soviet control.
However, the topic is about the 6 million claims prior to the war. A controversial ultra-Orthodox rabbi based in New York has said that fewer that one million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, claiming most of those counted among the usually cited figure of six million were not Jewish according to rabbinical law. In a video posted online, Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi can be seen saying that high assimilation rates in pre-war Europe and broad Nazi definitions have exaggerated the numbers of Jews recorded as killed by the Nazis during the Holocaust. At least five million of the six million were “total goyim,” Mizrachi told the crowd, adopting a Hebrew word for non-Jews that many consider pejorative.
“The truth, I am telling you, is that not even one million Jews were murdered,” Mizrachi said, trashing accepted historical accounts. “A lot of non-Jews were meshed into the count, but in truth, how many Jews really were killed?”
So, when a Jew says something that you can fit into your desired narrative, you believe him. Got it. Thanks.
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Re: 6 Million Jews

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The Jews can't keep their LIES straight.

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Re: 6 Million Jews

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Nessie wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:52 pm


You keep getting mixed up. The issue is where did the Jews under Nazi control end up? Not the ones under Soviet control.
I think it is obvious that the peoples including the "chosen ones" in Reich territory ended in Soviet territory. Surely that is not hard to fathom. They did not need to move as the Soviets came to them. They got the Hammer and Sickle with the kiss of despair. This was literally out of the firepan into the fire.

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