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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:16 pm
Does Franz describe the alleged gas chamber? Is he a Jew?

Kurt’s “confessions” don’t add up either.
He is yet another example of an accused person going along with enough of the ridiculous and highly improbable, hooly-cooked, hollow-co$t, holocaust fantasy to not deny it but to admit enough without implicating himself. Only cult-victims and retards believe this nonsense when they have looked deeply into it.
Most know nothing about his nonsense ‘confessions’. And that is exactly how the protectors and perpetuators of this pseudo-history want it. Which is presumably why Jewtube have removed the film of his interview and why no holocaust documentary ever uses it or shows it.


The facts are that in that filmed interview which I linked to, Kurt Franz stated things that contradict not only the realms of physical reality, but also the biographical details with which all the histories and web articles on him repeat.

Q1. Was he in Marburg or not?

Q2. Was he sent from Marburg to Belzec to investigate a new gas?

Q3. Or was he an ex-cook who became a staff sergeant in charge of clothing there, as the documentation confirms?

Q4. Could a kommandant of Treblinka be unaware of the details of its functioning if it was built and designed purely as an extermination camp?

Q5. Could Franz have been so completely unaware and even wrong about how long it took to gas a batch of victims, if he had that kommandant responsibility.

Q6. How could he realistically believe a homicidal mass-gassing took from only four to ten minutes if he has been involved in the proceedure at both Belzec and Treblinka!?

Q7. Could he really not have seen the alleged piles of bodies or the alleged open-air pyres and the alleged purpose-built gas chambers and still functioned effectively as the camp kommandant?

Q8. Could he really have been as totally unconnected to the extermination operation as he claimed?

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There are the 15-20,000 who did leave T-II but they are too few to count. Of course, according to Nessie, no trainloads of deportees left T-II since they just didn't know where they were. Credible witnesses that Nessie can't produce didn't mention any prisoner barracks. More maundering from holyhoax la-la land.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:57 pm
There are the 15-20,000 who did leave T-II but they are too few to count. Of course, according to Nessie, no trainloads of deportees left T-II since they just didn't know where they were. Credible witnesses that Nessie can't produce didn't mention any prisoner barracks. More maundering from holyhoax la-la land.
I mentioned 16 000 alone just from the reports of the Station Master who said 11 thousand went to Lublin while 5 thousand went to Chelm; this is just over 3 weeks and one camp.


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Huntinger wrote:
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Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:57 pm
There are the 15-20,000 who did leave T-II but they are too few to count. Of course, according to Nessie, no trainloads of deportees left T-II since they just didn't know where they were. Credible witnesses that Nessie can't produce didn't mention any prisoner barracks. More maundering from holyhoax la-la land.
I mentioned 16 000 alone just from the reports of the Station Master who said 11 thousand went to Lublin while 5 thousand went to Chelm; this is just over 3 weeks and one camp.
Zabecki did not say that. He said full trains of people arrived and then empty trains left. He recorded where the trains came from and where they then went to. Lublin was a common destination, as it sorted the property stolen as part of AR.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:24 pm
Zabecki did not say that. He said full trains of people arrived and then empty trains left. He recorded where the trains came from and where they then went to. Lublin was a common destination, as it sorted the property stolen as part of AR.
Here is what Zabecki said
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... becki.html

The destruction within the camp was probably substantial. We heard that about 50% of the buildings were destroyed. But the action to annihilate the Jews did not stop. The transports were sent to other camps and they went via Treblinka in transit
  • 18 August 1943, a transport of Jews “PJ 201" (32 wagons) went to Lublin from Bialystok via Treblinka.
  • 19 August, the transport “PJ 203" (40 wagons) went to Lublin from Bialystok via Treblinka.
  • 19 August, the last transport of Jews from Bialystok, “PJ 204" (39 wagons), arrived at Treblinka.
  • 24 August, transport “PJ 209" (9 wagons) went to Lublin via Treblinka.
  • 8 September, transport “PJ 211" (31 wagons) was sent to Lublin, and on 17 September, transport “PJ 1025" (50 wagons) of Jews from Minsk Litewski was sent to Chelm (in fact to Sobibor).


All of this information is taken from records which I made and from which I created copies at the end of the war, copies which I still have to this day.


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Huntinger wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:01 pm
Nessie wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:24 pm
Zabecki did not say that. He said full trains of people arrived and then empty trains left. He recorded where the trains came from and where they then went to. Lublin was a common destination, as it sorted the property stolen as part of AR.
Here is what Zabecki said
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... becki.html

The destruction within the camp was probably substantial. We heard that about 50% of the buildings were destroyed. But the action to annihilate the Jews did not stop. The transports were sent to other camps and they went via Treblinka in transit
  • 18 August 1943, a transport of Jews “PJ 201" (32 wagons) went to Lublin from Bialystok via Treblinka.
  • 19 August, the transport “PJ 203" (40 wagons) went to Lublin from Bialystok via Treblinka.
  • 19 August, the last transport of Jews from Bialystok, “PJ 204" (39 wagons), arrived at Treblinka.
  • 24 August, transport “PJ 209" (9 wagons) went to Lublin via Treblinka.
  • 8 September, transport “PJ 211" (31 wagons) was sent to Lublin, and on 17 September, transport “PJ 1025" (50 wagons) of Jews from Minsk Litewski was sent to Chelm (in fact to Sobibor).


All of this information is taken from records which I made and from which I created copies at the end of the war, copies which I still have to this day.
Bizarrely you quote Zabecki stating "But the action to annihilate the Jews did not stop" as you try and argue there were no mass killings at TII.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Nessie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:34 am
Bizarrely you quote Zabecki stating "But the action to annihilate the Jews did not stop" as you try and argue there were no mass killings at TII.
The situation you are implying is that 11 thousands passed through that camp, an alleged extermination camp while there were exterminations going on; some of these people stayed a week or longer before departing to Lublin.


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Huntinger wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:41 pm
Nessie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:34 am
Bizarrely you quote Zabecki stating "But the action to annihilate the Jews did not stop" as you try and argue there were no mass killings at TII.
The situation you are implying is that 11 thousands passed through that camp, an alleged extermination camp while there were exterminations going on; some of these people stayed a week or longer before departing to Lublin.
No. There is evidence that 6500 to 8000 passed through TII as they were selected on arrival to go to other camps, primarily Majdanek to work. That selection process was also reported for arrivals at Belzec, Sobibor and Birkenau.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Nessie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:29 pm
No. There is evidence that 6500 to 8000 passed through TII as they were selected on arrival to go to other camps, primarily Majdanek to work. That selection process was also reported for arrivals at Belzec, Sobibor and Birkenau.
Stick to the Zabecki files that show that these people stayed at Treblinka en route from Bialystok to Lublin as mentioned above. There is one reference to Chelm which Zabecki wrongly assumed was Sobibor.


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Huntinger wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:29 pm
Nessie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:29 pm
No. There is evidence that 6500 to 8000 passed through TII as they were selected on arrival to go to other camps, primarily Majdanek to work. That selection process was also reported for arrivals at Belzec, Sobibor and Birkenau.
Stick to the Zabecki files that show that these people stayed at Treblinka en route from Bialystok to Lublin as mentioned above. There is one reference to Chelm which Zabecki wrongly assumed was Sobibor.
Zabecki is not saying what you think he is :roll:
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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