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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by VFX » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:44 am

Werd wrote:
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I was talking to been-there.
This is a public forum Werd not a private conversation. At last look there were 45 guests. Perhaps if you wish for a private conversation mein Herr you can private message him and not put it on "das boot" :)
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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by been-there » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:09 am

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I have no issues with muslims nor christians; not even individual Jude: my issue is with all religions. Currently there is support for Mr Assad's government and the Palestinians for rightful domination and freedom of expression religious or otherwise. The Crusades are just possibly historian interpretation of their reality backdated to the past. This is not an issue for me as a thousand years ago is a bit outdated really and not my main strong point.
Muslims are no problem but the lack of employment in some European countries has give unwarranted attention to some indiscretions.
Good for you, VFX. :)

European Zionist Jews have attempted to create a hatred and distrust of people of one religion to gain support for their wars and land-theft in the MiddleEast. Its a classic trick. And sadly the people tricked by it always have difficulty accepting they have been duped and are being used.
That is nothing new.

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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by VFX » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:27 am

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Good for you, VFX. :)
Thank you. If the people of Palestine or Syria wish to hold our flag at least once this will be supported: there are no conditions. One may call this unconditional love for a foreign people but the National Socialists support them. Let us all fight for freedom, the planet, our children and love of nature and humanity. The jude idea must go. The family and moral values of humanity must prevail as suggested by the UDHHR.
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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by been-there » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:21 am

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There has been a recent poll claiming to measure the following:

Experiences and perceptions of antisemitism: 2nd survey on discrimination and hate crime against Jews in the EU
December 2018
This report outlines the main findings of FRA’s second survey on Jewish people’s experiences with hate crime, discrimination and antisemitism in the European Union – the biggest survey of Jewish people ever conducted worldwide. Covering 12 EU Member States, the survey reached almost 16,500 individuals who identify as being Jewish. It follows up on the agency’s first survey, conducted in seven countries in 2012.
The findings make for a sobering read. They underscore that antisemitism remains pervasive across the EU – and has, in many ways, become disturbingly normalised. The important information provided herein can support policymakers across the EU in stepping up their efforts to ensure the safety and dignity of all Jewish people living in the EU.
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Curiously it rates a perception amongst ‘Jews’ of there being a much higher incidence of 'anti-semitic' 'hate-crimes' against them in Britain connected to the British Labour party than to anything in Hungary and the nationalist policy of Viktor Orban.
The following article examines this curious anomaly.

...a recent poll of European Jews – the largest such survey in the world – is being used to paint a deeply misleading picture of British society...

Hungary is a country in which Jews and other minorities undoubtedly face a very pressing threat to their safety. Its ultra-nationalist Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, used the general election last April to whip up a frenzy of anti-Jewish sentiment.
He placed the Hungarian-born Jewish billionaire George Soros at the centre of his anti-immigration campaign, suggesting that the philanthropist was secretly pulling the strings of the opposition party to flood the country with “foreigners”. In the run-up to the election, his government erected giant posters and billboards all over the country showing a chuckling George Soros next to the words: “Don’t let Soros have the last laugh.”

Raiding the larder of virtually every historic anti-Semitic trope, Orban declared in an election speech:
“We are fighting an enemy that is different from us. Not open, but hiding; not straightforward but crafty; not honest but base; not national but international; does not believe in working but speculates with money; does not have its own homeland but feels it owns the world.”

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Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu with Hungarian Prime Minister, Viktor Orban

All of this should be seen in the context of Orban’s recent praise for Miklos Horthy, a former Hungarian leader who was an ally of Hitler’s. Orban has called him an “exceptional statesman”.

So did Hungarian Jews express to EU pollsters heightened fears for their community’s safety?
Strangely, they did not.
In fact, the percentage who regarded anti-semitism as a problem in Hungary was only slightly above the EU average and far below the concerns expressed by French Jews.

Not only that, but the proportion of Hungarian Jews fearful of anti-semitism has actually dropped over the past six years. Some 77% see anti-semitism as a problem today, compared to 89% in 2012, when the poll was last conducted.

So, the survey’s results are more than a little confounding. On the one hand, at least according to the British media and the EU, British Jews are in a heightened state of fear about the UK Labour party, where the evidence suggests an already marginal problem of anti-semitism is actually in decline.

And on the other, Hungarian Jews’ fears of anti-semitism are waning, even though the evidence suggests anti-semitism is on the rise and government-sanctioned there.

Understanding the paradox
There is, however, a way to explain this paradox – and it has nothing to do with anti-semitism.

Corbyn’s socialist-lite agenda faces a devastating array of opponents that include British business; the entire spectrum of the UK corporate media, including its supposedly liberal components; and, significantly in this case, the ultra-nationalist government of Israel, headed by Benjamin Netanyahu.

The British establishment fears Corbyn poses a challenge to the further entrenchment of neoliberal orthodoxy they benefit from. Meanwhile, Israeli politicians loathe Corbyn because he has made support for the Palestinian people a key part of his platform, becoming the first European leader to prioritise a Palestinian right to justice over Israel’s right to maintain its 51-year belligerent occupation.

Hungary’s Viktor Orban, by contrast, is beloved of big business, as well as the country’s mainstream media, and, again significantly, the Israeli government. Rather than distancing himself from Orban and his Jew-baiting electioneering in Hungary, Netanyahu has actually sanctioned it. He has called Orban a “true friend of Israel”, thanked him for "defending Israel", and joined the Hungarian leader in denouncing Soros.

Netanyahu, like Orban, intensely dislikes Soros’s liberalism and his support for open borders. Netanyahu shares Orban’s fears that a flood of refugees will disrupt his efforts to make his state as ethnically pure as possible.

Earlier this year, for example, Netanyahu claimed that Soros had funded human rights organisations to help African asylum seekers in Israel avoid a government programme to expel them. Netanyahu has many practical and ideological reasons to support not only Orban but the new breed of ultra-nationalist leaders emerging in states like Poland, Italy, France and elsewhere.

Hostility to Muslims
Nativism in European states is primarily directed against Muslim and Arab immigrants arriving from the Middle East and North Africa, though domestic Jews could well become collateral damage in any future purge of “foreigners”.

Europe’s ultra-nationalist leaders are, therefore, more likely to sympathise with Israel and its own “Arab-Muslim problem”, especially since Netanyahu and the Israeli right have proved adept at falsely presenting the Palestinians as immigrants rather than the region’s native population.

Netanyahu would also like to see Europe paralysed by political differences, so it is incapable of lobbying for a two-state solution, as it has been doing ineffectively for many years; it is unable to agree on funding human rights activism designed to protect Palestinian rights; and it is too weak to move towards the adoption of sanctions against Israel.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/j ... auyG1mQSvE
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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by Trolljegeren » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:27 am

We know this is true. Thank you for the post. As mentioned we support Syrians Palestinians and others who are affected by the Jude scourge, even jewish kids. The only way out is political unless you have another suggestion.

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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by Werd » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:32 pm

Is Been-there capable of posting more than just articles? Does he have any intelligible domestic policy? I'm not sure but I have a good domestic policy for Hungary.

No more Muslim immigration (Europe has enough. They don't need anymore). Close the borders. Fuck the EU. Long live national sovereignty. Save the economy. Make the streets safe again for women.

The reason anti semitism exists in Hungary is because of George Soros and other Jews telling Hungary what to do with their borders while they hypocritically tell the world to fuck off and leave Israel alone. It's the old marriage of Jews and communism. Netanyahu is allegedly on the right. So if he openly supports Hungary protecting it's borders, and also at the same time ISN'T working with Soros to undermine Hungary, then fine. IF JEWS WERE LOYAL, BEHAVED PROPERLY AND DIDN'T ENGAGE IN CULTURAL DISTORTION AND PARASITISM, THE ANTI SEMITISM WOULD DROP DRASTICALLY.

HOWEVER, we know damn well that Netanyahu has been caught saying that Europe needs to take immigrants in and that he has done NOTHING to expose the Jewish NGOs that are bringing in the immigrants. So secretly, Netanyahu HATES that Hungary is protecting its borders. So the Hungarian PM needs to watch his step and play politics carefully. Don't go to Israel for any dinners or meetings. He will get murdered. Don't have tea or a meal with Netanyahu. He may suffer a poison cup. Because the Israeli Zionist mafia want Europe destroyed. And people like the Hungarian Prime Minster are a thorn in the side of the Israeli Zionist mafia that is hell bent on wrecking Europe as revenge for some alleged holocaust in the 40's.

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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by been-there » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:36 am

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Jewish involvement in contemporary refugee and migrant organisations

The conspicuous presence of influential Jewish diplomats and politicians in the formulation of the Refugee Act of 1980, ...should be contextualized within the question of ethnic conflict in immigration policy more generally. In particular, it should be contextualized within Kevin MacDonald’s discussion of Jewish involvement in shaping U.S. immigration policy, in the course of which MacDonald concludes that “Jewish organizations have uniformly advocated high levels of immigration of all racial and ethnic groups into Western societies and have also advocated a multicultural model for these societies.”[2]

...The point here is that MacDonald’s thesis does not require every Jewish academic to cynically use his or her discipline to advance Jewish interests, but that it does advance the idea that Jews will overwhelmingly see support for pluralism and mass immigration as being in their interests. As such, not every Jewish scientist studying race differences will necessarily oppose multiculturalism, racial pluralism, or mass immigration, and in fact very few will.

While these points may highlight some of the more obvious problems with the default hypothesis offered by Cofnas, a more thorough test is proposed by examining the scale of Jewish representation in contemporary refugee and migrant organizations.

Jewish representation in secular contemporary refugee and migrant organisations.
In contrast to the modest overrepresentation of Jews in anti-immigration groups (around 5%), Jews are nothing short of prolific in influential senior roles in contemporary refugee, asylum, and pro-migration organizations. Significantly, Jews occupy the leadership of all four of the largest and most influential (and nominally secular) organizations active in America today, the International Rescue Committee (President and CEO David Miliband), Refugees International (President Eric P. Schwartz, formerly of HIAS), International Refugee Assistance Project (Director Becca Heller), and Human Rights Watch (Executive Director Kenneth Roth, and Deputy Directors Iain Levine and Fred Abrahams).

The International Rescue Committee (IRC) is one of the most significant organizations bringing migrants to the United States. In their countries of origin, refugees and their families are assisted by the IRC to prepare their cases to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), compiling personal data and background information for security clearance. Once their cases are approved, refugees are usually greeted at the airport by case workers from the IRC. The IRC then provides these migrants with a home, furnishings, food, and any other assistance that might be required. The IRC operates 27 offices across the United States, each offering food, housing, educational, and medical assistance. It also works closely with the U.S. Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) Division of Refugee Assistance, which was reported in August 2018 as quietly removing its staff directory page. Consultations with the Internet Wayback Machine revealed the Director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement to be one Carl Rubenstein, an alumnus of Tel Aviv Law School. In 2017, the IRC, in conjunction with Rubenstein’s ORR, resettled more than 51,000 migrants to the United States, and is currently a staunch lobbyist against current restrictions imposed by President Trump.

Jews are very prominent in the leadership of the IRC. In addition to President and CEO David Miliband, there are at least 30 Jews in senior positions within the organization including Morton I. Abramowitz (Overseer), Madeleine Albright (Overseer), Laurent Alpert (Board Member), Clifford Asness (Board Member), Betsy Blumenthal (Overseer), Alan Batkin (Chairman Emeritus and Board Member), Michael W. Blumenthal (Overseer), Susan Dentzer (Board Member), Evan G. Greenberg (Overseer), Morton I. Hamburg (Overseer), Leila Heckman (Overseer), Karen Hein (Overseer), Marvin Josephson (Overseer),Alton Kastner (Overseer and former Deputy Director), Henry Kissinger (Overseer), David A. Levine (Board Member), Reynold Levy (Overseer), Robert E. Marks (Overseer), Sara Moss (Overseer), Thomas Nides (Board Member), Susan Petricof (Overseer), Gideon Rose (Overseer), Thomas Schick (Chairman Emeritus and Board Member), James Strickler (Overseer), Sally Susman (Board Member), Mona Sutphen (Board Member), Merryl Tisch (Board Member), Maureen White (Board Member), Jonathan Wiesner (Chairman Emeritus and Board Member), William Winters (Overseer), and James D. Wolfensohn (Overseer).

The Board of the IRC is comprised of 30 individuals, 12 of whom are Jewish, giving a Jewish representation at senior board level of 40%. The Board of Overseers consists of 78 individuals, of whom at least 25 are Jewish, giving a Jewish representation at this level of just over 32%. Since Jews occupy the position of CEO at the IRC, as well as 40% of the senior board and 32% of the lower board, it would be reasonable to assert that they enjoy a dominant role within the organization.[6] This dwarfs any Jewish representation seen in anti-immigration groups.

http://www.unz.com/article/jewish-invol ... nizations/

been-there wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:42 am
Werd wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 am
Once again been-there wants his cake and also to eat it as well.

If immigrants are not causing any problems and Islam is compatible with European western liberal values, then how can you get mad at Jews for bringing in people who are a cultural match or a cultural compliment? Shouldn't we be thanking Jews for fighting so hard to bring in immigrants that are so well behaved? LOL.
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What you are amazingly unable to comprehend is very simple. I have NEVER, EVER argued that muslim immigrants are not causing problems. So you are repeatedly arguing against your own 'strawman' miscomprehension.

What is happening is that Jews — of whom Barbra Spectre is but one of many — are orchestrating an influx of predominantly muslim immigrants into European nations, in order to deliberately destroy 'monolothic' European culture and to create a multicultural melange.

They are doing that whilst simultaneously creating a Jew-only state on stolen middle-eastern land which they are currently ethnically-cleansing of its predominantly muslim population.

Concurrent with that we have many 'Jewish' pro-Israeli organisations and film moguls conducting a campaign to demonise ALL muslims and to create a culture clash.

Think it through. :ugeek:
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Re: The main purveyors of Islamophobia

Post by been-there » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:02 pm

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The shame of the UJA-Federation of New York
HOW ITS JEWISH COMMUNAL-FUND SUPPORTS ANTI-MUSLIM HATE GROUPS


https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... report.pdf
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