The Camp of the Saints

The RODOH Lounge is a place for general discussion, preferably non-Holocaust. The Lounge is only lightly moderated but please keep this a friendly place to chat with and get to know your fellow board participants.
User avatar
been-there
Propositions Moderator
Posts: 9368
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:59 am
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by been-there »

I watched the video you posted. I watched it through to the end. Did you watch the one's I linked to?
If not give it a go.
The one you shared I regard as a dangerous mish-mash of untruth, half-truth and on occassion nonsense.
E.g. the crusaders didn't fight to "liberate Europe from Muslim invaders". They massacred and plundered their way to the middle east to expel Muslims from the heart of Judaic and Christian superstition viz. Jerusalem.
And the idea that white civilisation has improved living standards is again a half-truth. Islamic culture was far in advance of European culture in the arts of mathematics, architecture, navigation, chemistry, science, etc., etc., for centuries.
The Egyptians, Incas, Hindus and other non-white cultures had vastly superior civilisations, with well planned and organised cities, institutes of learning, trade systems, etc. while OUR ancestors were still painting their faces blue and living in squalid conditions in mudhuts.
As for the lie that Muslims had more white slaves than whites ever had of other races, that is a ludicrous self-deception.
I mean... there was so much nonsense there I could spend a fair while debunking it. Which I haven't the time or patience to do.
K0nsl, I watched your video. Did you watch mine? Did you see the one on red rubber. I can only assume you didn't to respond with such low-brow, historically inaccurate and illogical argument.
"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth,
they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
-- Anonymous


Would you like to financially contribute to the upkeep of RODOH, kindly contact Scott Smith. All contributions are welcome!


User avatar
k0nsl
Posts: 768
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:48 pm
Location: Scandinavia
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by k0nsl »

I watched your clips. It is enough to look at any formerly White European city to discard of your argument that non-Whites can build and maintain a great civilization.
They have more or less already ruined Europe. You can practically visit any city in any moderately large European city and see that your precious non-Whites have turned something great into something terribly bad where Whites can not go outside without being abused, raped or murdered. Do you also call this "improved living standards"? For whom?
As for Islamic culture...well, if we could ask Aisha her opinion, I doubt she would call it very advanced. Her age certainly wasn't particularly advanced ;)

My clip was not exactly a response to your clips. It was just a simple way for me to say "I am not sorry and I do not apologize". I want a Europe where White people can live and prosper. I don't care what non-Whites do in their own countries.

Best wishes,
-k0nsl
The Jew is a falsifier and a cheat! The Jew is congenitally corrupt! Shun the Jew! — Telemachus Timayenis, The American Jew: An Expose of His Career‎ (1888)

User avatar
k0nsl
Posts: 768
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:48 pm
Location: Scandinavia
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by k0nsl »

been-there,

What is your opinion about the phenomenon known as taharrush?
This happened in your lovely Egypt not long ago, do you recall? This has since been imported to Europe. This is improved living standards? For whom?

-k0nsl
The Jew is a falsifier and a cheat! The Jew is congenitally corrupt! Shun the Jew! — Telemachus Timayenis, The American Jew: An Expose of His Career‎ (1888)

User avatar
been-there
Propositions Moderator
Posts: 9368
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:59 am
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by been-there »

k0nsl wrote:I watched your clips. It is enough to look at any formerly White European city to discard of your argument that non-Whites can build and maintain a great civilization.
They have more or less already ruined Europe. You can practically visit any city in any moderately large European city and see that your precious non-Whites have turned something great into something terribly bad where Whites can not go outside without being abused, raped or murdered. Do you also call this "improved living standards"? For whom?
As for Islamic culture...well, if we could ask Aisha her opinion, I doubt she would call it very advanced. Her age certainly wasn't particularly advanced ;)

My clip was not exactly a response to your clips. It was just a simple way for me to say "I am not sorry and I do not apologize". I want a Europe where White people can live and prosper. I don't care what non-Whites do in their own countries.

Best wishes,
-k0nsl
But K0nsl, I'm not discussing the current situation. I'm trying to discuss with you how we got here.
Neither am I discussing your wish to live in "a Europe where White people can live and prosper".
I only responded to the hopelessly inaccurate history that the video presented as a way of justifying that.

In my opinion if we looked at the shared history more honestly and self-justifyingly then we would realise that maybe if we DID only apologise for our centuries of exploitation and theft, then we could leave what you called “non-Whites do in their own countries" what they wanted.
Then we wouldn't have this so-called culture clash.

Look at the history of Afghanistan and what Brits called 'the Great Game'. We used that country and its people in a battle for empire against Russia. We turned that country into the basket-case of fundamentalist religiosity in the 1970's in order to gain the upper hand in our long vendetta with Russia. So to criticise the Afghanis now for their backward civilisation, after we deliberately engineered that so as to fight the 'white' Soviets strikes me as deeply delusional and hypocritical.

I presume you know about the conquistadors in South America? And the treatment of the native aboriginsl people in Australia and northern America. Are you really ok with that wicked treatment and genocide based on stupid and destructive white-man arrogance? I hope not.
After he failed to contact the emperor of China, the traders of India, or the merchants of Japan, Columbus decided to pay for his voyage in the one important commodity he had found in ample supply — human lives. He seized 1,200 Taino Indians from the island of Hispaniola, crammed as many onto his ships as would fit, and sent them to Spain, where they were paraded naked through the streets of Seville and sold as slaves in 1495. Columbus tore children from their parents, husbands from wives. On board Columbus' slave ships, hundreds died; the sailors tossed the Indian bodies into the Atlantic.

Because Columbus captured more Indian slaves than he could transport to Spain in his small ships, he put them to work in mines and plantations which he, his family, and followers created throughout the Caribbean. His marauding band hunted Indians for sport and profit — beating, raping, torturing, killing, and then using the Indian bodies as food for their hunting dogs. Within four years of Columbus' arrival on Hispaniola, his men had killed or exported one-third of the original Indian population of 300,000.

This was the great cultural encounter initiated by Christopher Columbus. This is the event celebrated each year on Columbus Day. The United States honours this man with a federal holiday bearing his name. In October, they honour Christopher Columbus, who opened the Atlantic slave trade and launched one of the greatest waves of genocide known in history.
"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth,
they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
-- Anonymous

User avatar
been-there
Propositions Moderator
Posts: 9368
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:59 am
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by been-there »

k0nsl wrote:been-there,

What is your opinion about the phenomenon known as taharrush?

This happened in your lovely Egypt not long ago, do you recall? This has since been imported to Europe. This is improved living standards? For whom?

-k0nsl
My lovely Egypt??? Why do you write that?

I wasn't aware of this occurrence. But as horrendous as that incident is, you can't seriously suggest that it is a sign of ONLY 'non-white' sexual degeneracy. Are you not aware of the global sex-tourist trade where ugly, old 'white ' people go to third world countries to fulfil their sexual desires by exploiting poor people trapped in prostitution. Paedophilia and child pornography by 'white' people are rampant in places like Thailand, etc.
This isn't anything new. The exploitation and virtual imprisonment of girls and young women trapped in prostitution to British Regiments during the occupation of India (British Raj) was well documented at the time but is largely forgotten now.
The centuries of rape by whites against slaves is vastly more than anything comparable happening culturally the other way. Compared to these centuries of whiteman rapine and sexual enslavement, that incident — however undoubtedly terrifying and abhorrent it was for her — pales into insignificance. Ditto with the other recent cases you mentioned.
Under the British, the East India Company, and after the Great War of Independence of 1857, the British Crown, directly and devilishly implemented a policy of duality. Thus, on the one hand, the British drafted such a legislation as the Contagious Diseases Act of 1864 and implemented it with rigour upon its subjects in India. The intention of this Act was not to prevent vice and immorality amongst its own soldiers, but rather to denigrate the body of the prostitute as a receptacle of all that was filthy and impure. Under this Act and the Cantonment Rules, the British and other European soldiers in India were not only permitted but promoted to hold native young and good-looking girls as prostitutes for their carnal pleasure. These very ‘White clients’ of the native prostitutes, who spread venereal diseases not only amongst themselves but upon these unfortunate women, would themselves remain untouched and their integrity and respectability untarnished. It would be the Indian girls and women (mostly of poor families) who would be first trapped into a life of sin because the society and colonial government not only disallowed them any opportunity to earn an independent income but encouraged a system which preyed upon their helplessness and lack of better options.

The system devised for furnishing sensual indulgence to the British soldier, and for protecting him from diseases consequent on such indulgence was commonly called the Contagious Diseases Act, but was carried out under Cantonment Regulations, and was as follows in its main features: There were placed with each regiment (of about a thousand soldiers) from twelve to fifteen native women, who dwelt in appointed houses called chaklas. These women were allowed to consort with British soldiers only, and were registered by the Cantonment Magistrate, and tickets of licence were given them. Besides the chakla, that is, brothel, there was in each Cantonment a prison hospital, in which the patients were confined against their will. To these Lock Hospitals, the women were obliged to go periodically (generally once a week) for an indecent examination, to see whether every part of the body was free from any trace of diseases likely to spread from them to the soldiers, as the result of immoral relations. When a regiment came into a large Cantonment, there would be a government brothel to which all such women were sent for residence, and a guard in uniform looked after them. When the soldiers were camped out in the open field, tents were set up for the women at the back part of the encampment. When the soldiers marched, the women were carried in carts, with the British soldiers to guard them, or sent by train to the destination of the regiment. These women were placed under a superintendent or brothel-keeper, called the Mahaldarni, one of whose duty comprised of procuring more such women as and when desired. On June 17, 1886, a military order, known among the public as the “Infamous Circular Memorandum, 21A”, was sent to all the Cantonments of India by Quartermaster-General Chapman, in the name of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army in India (Lord Roberts). As a result, under it there was an officially sanctioned and blatant exploitation of Indian women sanctioned by none other than the regimental commanding-officers of the various British regiments.
http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2142.html
"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth,
they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
-- Anonymous

User avatar
Charles Traynor
Posts: 3080
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:53 pm
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by Charles Traynor »

been-there, you are using the standards of today to judge what happened in 19th century India. What's more you are cherry picking evidence from a biased website which appears to be run by a feminist to do so. That article makes it appear as though all the women working as prostitutes for the British were impressed victims when this is clearly not the case. Prostitution may not have been an ideal job for a young native woman but it did give them an escape route from the extreme poverty seen in India at the time. If you read the article in its entirety it becomes evident these camp followers were well looked after and even had their own guards for protection.

A little further on in the article we learn other local women were voluntarily working as prostitutes and frequenting the cantonments after dark.
The threat from the unregistered prostitutes was regarded as extremely harmful. They were labelled as coming from the coolie-class of women —the grass-cutters and the ditch-diggers who were described as seen roaming about and inside the cantonment after dark.
Of course been-there ignores the inconvenient fact that darkies were treating their women worse than animals long before Europeans ever stepped foot in Africa or the Middle East. And as unpalatable as it is for trendy urban liberals to accept, European colonisation has actually improved the lot of women around the world over the centuries.
Kitty Hart-Moxon (1998): "Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."

User avatar
Charles Traynor
Posts: 3080
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:53 pm
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by Charles Traynor »

been-there wrote:
I wasn't aware of this occurrence. But as horrendous as that incident is, you can't seriously suggest that it is a sign of ONLY 'non-white' sexual degeneracy. Are you not aware of the global sex-tourist trade where ugly, old 'white ' people go to third world countries to fulfil their sexual desires by exploiting poor people trapped in prostitution. Paedophilia and child pornography by 'white' people are rampant in places like Thailand, etc.
In an ideal world paedophiles would not be going on holiday anywhere. Unfortunately paedophilia is currently condoned by "enlightened" colour blind liberals such as Balmoral, NexGen586, KentFord9 and Nessie who support the right of perverts to engage in any type of sexual degeneracy they wish.
Kitty Hart-Moxon (1998): "Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."

User avatar
Admiral E. Rastus
Posts: 98
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:01 am
Location: coming soon to a place near you
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by Admiral E. Rastus »

One of them even has an HBO show.

Image

User avatar
k0nsl
Posts: 768
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:48 pm
Location: Scandinavia
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by k0nsl »

I didn't mean to be rude to you, been-there. You must excuse me.

Faithfully,
-k0nsl
been-there wrote:
k0nsl wrote:been-there,

What is your opinion about the phenomenon known as taharrush?

This happened in your lovely Egypt not long ago, do you recall? This has since been imported to Europe. This is improved living standards? For whom?

-k0nsl
My lovely Egypt??? Why do you write that?
The Jew is a falsifier and a cheat! The Jew is congenitally corrupt! Shun the Jew! — Telemachus Timayenis, The American Jew: An Expose of His Career‎ (1888)

User avatar
Charles Traynor
Posts: 3080
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:53 pm
Contact:

Re: The Camp of the Saints

Post by Charles Traynor »

Jean Raspail, writer of the prophetic novel “The Camp of the Saints”, passed away recently.


Image
Jean Raspail: Frenchman, Royalist and Patriot


https://youtu.be/ayK7KJT3OPQ

R.I.P. Jean Raspail. July 5, 1925 - June 13, 2020.
Kitty Hart-Moxon (1998): "Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests