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The normally clean shaven Janner hasn't had a shave today. Why would that be?

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To add to the deception of his severe dementia Janner is wearing his usual trampy, going out in public in front of the cameras clobber, complete with baseball cap and old green cardigan with what looks like designer stains on the front. His daughter is looking a bit of a state too. I expect she sat next to him during the hearing, swabbing his brow and wiping up his dribble with paper tissues.

It should be obvious to anyone with even a modicum of commonsense that the Janner family by their conduct today condone GJ's criminal paedo rapist behaviour, and will use every trick in the book to gain sympathy from the jury to achieve a not guilty verdict.

Jewish chutzpah at its finest from a family with with no shame!
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Hey Duke! You were there, did the disheveled looking Lord Janner smell of stale piss when he entered the courtroom? How far did the Jewish deception towards the bastards supposed rickety mental health go?
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Charles Traynor wrote: The normally clean shaven Janner hasn't had a shave today. Why would that be?
He probably doesn't want his hair transported to Hamburg in order to make socks for the trampy Hun.
Charles Traynor wrote: To add to the deception of his severe dementia Janner is wearing his usual trampy, going out in public in front of the cameras clobber, complete with baseball cap and old green cardigan with what looks like designer stains on the front. His daughter is looking a bit of a state too. I expect she sat next to him during the hearing, swabbing his brow and wiping up his dribble with paper tissues.
Just because Traynor minces up and down his local High Street, complete with jack boots and silly trousers ( in tribute to his hero - the Nazi queer from Allo Allo ) and pristine hairy socks ( £1.99 Mail Order from BNP gift shop), doesn't mean to say we all have to .
Charles Traynor wrote: It should be obvious to anyone with even a modicum of commonsense that the Janner family by their conduct today condone GJ's criminal paedo rapist behaviour, and will use every trick in the book to gain sympathy from the jury to achieve a not guilty verdict.

The 'commonsense' bit rules you out then, Traynor.
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Janner's daughter had earlier attempted to hand wave the victims accusations away as anti-Semitism
Lord Janner dead:
Former Labour peer found unfit to stand trial for alleged child sex abuse dies aged 87

...the allegations against the peer were of the “utmost severity”.
“He abused his position of trust as a local MP and preyed on those who were the most vulnerable. They were all boys from Leicestershire care home who’d had very, very disturbed and difficult lives. He behaved in a sadistic and cruel manner, exploiting children at their most vulnerable.”

In court earlier this month, both prosecutors and defence lawyers have not been in dispute that the former Labour MP’s severe dementia had left him unfit to stand trial. But the CPS’s handling of the case has been at the centre of intense criticism after it admitted that there had been enough evidence to prosecute Lord Janner back in 1991, before he fell ill.

The prosecuting body confirmed there were similar opportunities to bring a sex abuse case in 2002 and 2007, and that the Director of Public Prosecutions, Alison Saunders, said it was a matter of “deep regret” that a prosecution was not brought. His family has said repeatedly he was “entirely innocent of any wrongdoing”.
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I hope the bastard is enjoying his own personal holocaust as he begins to burn in the ovens of hell for all eternity.

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I'm fucking fuming Janner got away with it! That dirty exterminationist bastard ruined his young victims lives before they had even begun. It sickens me his family are still claiming his innocence despite all the evidence pointing to his guilt. Jewish Chutzpah at its finest. Janner's wife must have known he was a homosexual child molester. She needs to be dragged into a police station and then before a court of law to answer some very serious questions. Does anyone here honestly believe she never knew he was an abuser of Gentile children for all those decades they were together?

Imogen Dalziel a Regional Ambassador for the H.E.T. which was founded by Lord Janner has chosen to ignore his death on both her blog and Twitter channel. I wonder why? The H.E.T. Twitter channel also ignores Janner's death. It appears as though British exterminationism is in damage limitation mode at the moment.
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Marc Gafni a once-promising Jewish leader dogged by allegations of sexual improprieties stretching back years, has returned to the public eye as a leader of a California think tank.

Gafni, 55, speaking over the phone in California said: “I don’t publically identify as or practice as a rabbi,” but “I draw on the rabbinic lineage every day, it’s what inspires me.”

Gafni was born Mordechai Winiarz in 1960 to Holocaust survivors in Massachusetts.
He attended Orthodox yeshivas in the New York area and emerged as a popular youth leader in his twenties.
The first reports of sexual impropriety, which came to light in a 2004 article in the New York Jewish Week by Gary Rosenblatt, date back to these early years.
The New York Jewish Week spoke with a woman who claimed a 19-year-old Gafni had “repeatedly sexually assaulted” her beginning in 1980, when she was 13. “He told me that if I told anyone, I would be shamed in the community,” she told the newspaper.
No criminal charges were ever filed and Gafni said that this was a consensual relationship. “We have a very different understanding of what happened,” he said.

In 1986 Gafni was accused of having relations with a 16-year-old female student from a youth group he led who was staying at his home in New York City. Gafni “was then 25 and married” and Judy Mitzner claimed that he “abused her sexually on two occasions.” At that time the age of consent in New York state was 17.
Charges were never filed in that case either and Gafni also claims that the relationship was consensual, although he concedes, including in an interview with the Forward in late December, it was a “mistake.”
“She was highly initiatory,” Gafni said. “I take full responsibility for that mistake. I worked with thousands of kids as a youth leader and it happened once.”
The woman in that case recently wrote on her personal website that she felt Gafni took advantage of her.
“I was underage, he was an authority figure, my teacher and at that point my guardian,” the woman, now called Judy Mitzner Rogers, wrote recently.
“[The] rabbinate at the time told us all to keep it quiet – that it would be handled internally … [They didn’t] want to cast a disparaging light upon the Jewish community.”

Two years later — and after a brief stint as a pulpit rabbi in Florida — Gafni moved to Israel and served as rabbi in a West Bank settlement. Like many immigrants, he dropped his given last name for a Hebrew one.

...After the controversy, Gafni disappeared from the Jewish world. He moved to Utah and wrote a draft of a book on “false sexual claims.” Gafni remembered...I spent a few years in intense pain beyond imagination with a feeling of betrayal,” he said. I felt socially raped.”

“Real people have suffered from his pathology and real people have been silenced while Gafni lied and covers up his sickness,” Ingber wrote in an online post.

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The BBC have a story on the continuing revelations of Greville Janner's paedophilic abuse of boys in care homes.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35304528

...Mark said he was 11 or 12 at the time. "It's mentally scarred me for life," he told the BBC. "I can never get rid of it. You feel ashamed and you feel dirty. Useless and worthless."
The BBC has learned that lawyers are now representing at least 20 men and one woman, including the 12 residents of children's homes, who say the former MP abused them.
Police have said they have information from 25 alleged victims.
Five alleged they were abused at the same Leicester primary school when Greville Janner visited. The allegations range from groping to the most serious forms of child sexual abuse.

...the BBC has traced and interviewed dozens of men and women who lived at children's homes in Leicestershire in the 70s and 80s.
It has also spoken to council officials, social workers, police officers and journalists involved in investigating the case of Frank Beck, a notorious care home manager who was eventually convicted of child abuse.

Frank Beck was a Liberal Democrat county councillor and an influential social worker.
He abused children under the cover of a childcare technique he advocated called regression therapy, which involved treating teenagers as if they were babies, but also beating and suffocating them.
Beck also picked out children for sexual abuse. He was sent to prison in 1991, where he died in 1994.
During Beck's trial, he and an alleged victim both sensationally claimed that Lord Janner was a child abuser, and the alleged victim was then interviewed by police.

Lord Janner told the House of Commons in 1991 that this man's allegations against him were "disgraceful, contemptible and totally untrue". But senior figures at the Crown Prosecution Service are now understood to regard the case against Lord Janner as "overwhelming" - and the level of abuse alleged as "horrific".

...The BBC investigation received an account by another detective that he had reported allegations against Beck, Lord Janner and other prominent Leicester figures, but his bosses "did not want to touch it".
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There can be no doubt that a flurry of congratulatory emails are being secretly exchanged this weekend between the likes of the HC crew, members of the H.E.T. (Holocaust Education Trust), and the Jewish community in Britain, after Fridays announcement the criminal case against Lord Janner has been dropped.

One can only hope those making up Goddard Inquiry panel will not allow themselves to be influenced by Jewish interests, as this inquiry is now the only hope Janner's victims have for seeing any kind of justice done.


Alleged victims of Janner 'devastated' as criminal case dropped

Alleged victims of the late Lord Janner have been left "devastated" after his criminal case was dropped, decades after they first accused him of child sex abuse.

Greville Janner had been charged with 22 sexual offences dating back to the 1960s against nine alleged victims, who were mostly under 16 at the time.

But legal proceedings were left in limbo following the announcement that the 87-year-old peer had died on December 19, just days after he was found unfit to stand trial at the Old Bailey.
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Legal proceedings were left in limbo after Lord Janner's death

Announcing the decision not to press ahead with the planned trial of facts, prosecutor Richard Whittam QC revealed in court that more charges were due to be brought.

The defence had been trying to get the case thrown out due to an "abuse of process", he said.

Mr Whittam said that a copy of the death certificate had been produced for the court file bringing an end to the criminal matter.

Following the short hearing, alleged victims expressed their disappointment at being denied justice " through a failure to prosecute earlier when Janner was alive and well".

Liz Dux, specialist abuse lawyer at Slater and Gordon, who represents eight alleged victims, said: "My clients are obviously devastated that they are no longer able to give their evidence in a criminal court.

"They understand the reasons why but that doesn't make up for the real travesty - that many gave their statements decades ago and have been denied justice through a failure to prosecute earlier when Janner was alive and well.

"They sincerely hope that the Goddard Inquiry will prioritise this matter, will allow them to give their evidence in person and will make findings of fact.

"It is vital that all the evidence that has painstakingly been gathered over the years is carefully considered by the independent inquiry and that findings of fact are made public."

Meanwhile, the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, headed by Justice Goddard, announced it was resuming its investigation into Janner.

A spokeswoman said: "The inquiry will seek evidence and submissions from all relevant parties, and will make findings of fact where appropriate.

"If allegations are found to be true, the inquiry will then consider the extent of any institutional failures to protect children from abuse and make recommendations for the future."

The inquiry will look into Leicestershire County Council, a number of care homes, the police, the Crown Prosecution Service and the Labour Party, she said.

A description of the scope of the investigation will be published on Monday with a preliminary hearing on March 9.

Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Alison Saunders had originally decided that Lord Janner should not be charged with alleged child sex crimes because of his ill health.

But that was overturned by an independent review last year.

Last month, Janner was formally declared unfit to stand trial due to his "deteriorating and irreversible" dementia and the trial of facts was fixed for April.

Following the announcement the criminal case was closed, a CPS spokeswoman said: "In April 2015, the Director of Public Prosecutions commissioned an independent inquiry into the handling of past allegations of sexual abuse by Greville Janner.

"Now that criminal proceedings have concluded, we will publish the findings of Sir Richard Henriques' inquiry at the earliest opportunity."

An NSPCC spokesman said: "It is vital that victims of abuse, however long after the crimes against them, have the confidence to speak out knowing that their allegations will be fully investigated.

"Child abuse allegations need to be pursued without fear or favour and the well documented past mistakes in this case must never be allowed to happen again."

Simon Danczuk had used Parliamentary Privilege during a House of Commons debate to outline some of the allegations against Lord Janner.

The Rochdale MP said after the decision to end the criminal case: "We see justice move so quickly for some people but, when it comes to Lord Janner and his alleged victims, it has moved incredibly slowly, to the point that we have seen a failure to prosecute.

"It is a very sad day for the alleged victims, who have been denied the chance to tell their story.

"It is now for the Goddard Inquiry to take up the case and ensure that the victims are given a voice."

Lord Macdonald, a former Director of Public Prosecutions, said it was a "matter of huge regret" that a case had not been brought against the peer in the past.

He told BBC Radio 4's World at One programme: " It highlights the really abysmal performance of the criminal justice system, in this case over a number of years, including of course during the time I was DPP between 2003 and 2008.

"It appears that numerous opportunities were lost, or not properly investigated, to bring a case."

Asked if he felt any responsibility, he replied: "Well, of course. I was DPP for five years.

"Unfortunately, contrary to the rules at the time, this case was never brought to me personally, so I wasn't aware of it.

"But it is a matter of huge regret that he wasn't prosecuted earlier, and he should have been."

The peer said today's decision was "to be expected" and it would be "wrong" to continue with prosecutions after the death of a defendant .
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