What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:13 am

NSDAP wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:05 am
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:51 am
NSDAP wrote:
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Juden have this fascination for the 6 million figure when it comes to their "suffering", a good factual look at this here.
But it's awfully convenient how mentions of 3 million, or 4 million, or 5 million, or 7 million show up about as often in newspapers prior to the Holocaust too, yet the video you linked omits this fact.

The Jewish population in Eastern Europe was estimated at 3 to 7 million in the first half of the 20th century. How shocking that an estimate of 6 million would show up a few times in newspapers as a result.

Oh wait, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to happen.

Deniers make fools of themselves once again, and demonstrate their fondness for withholding information that damages their argument.
There is no argument, we are just waiting for proof of this, so far apart from a few eye witnesses there is nothing.

In the Google News Archive, pertaining to articles published before WW2:
"three million Jews" is mentioned 57 times
"Six million Jews" is mentioned 44 times
Yet the video you linked excludes this fact.

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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by NSDAP » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:19 am

The six million figure has been going on for yonks. It is clearly a Juden issue and not a matter of history except to remind people of their ineptitude.
As sad as the stories are, at the end of the day there are only about 200 000 Juden missing when the financial claims are analysed. One thing about Juden, they and money seem to go hand in hand.
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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:21 am

NSDAP wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:19 am
The six million figure has been going on for yonks. It is clearly a Juden issue and not a matter of history except to remind people of their ineptitude.
As sad as the stories are, at the end of the day there are only about 200 000 Juden missing when the financial claims are analysed. One thing about Juden, they and money seem to go hand in hand.
I already debunked the claim that six million in particular is a recurring figure.

Three million appears more often.

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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by NSDAP » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:48 am

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:21 am
I already debunked the claim that six million in particular is a recurring figure.

Three million appears more often.
No one is denying that millions died, but in a war where about 70 million perished we do not find the significance of Juden particularly important, over the other people: we care about the millions of others as well. We are saying there was no need of gassing, it just happened. The best scenario to understand this is fluid mechanics.
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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by been-there » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:37 pm

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Harry S. Truman in a diary entry in 1947 wrote:The Jews, I find are very, very selfish.
They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as DP [Displaced Persons] as long as the Jews get special treatment.
Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog.
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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by rollo the ganger » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:25 pm

Interesting excerpt from Truman's diary. From the Trumanlibrary.org here is the full transcript for that day:
July 21:

[The entry for this day is written on three loose pages, interleaved in the diary book.]

6:00 P. M. Monday July 21, 1947

Had ten minutes conversation with Henry Morgenthau about Jewish ship in Palistine [sic]. Told him I would talk to Gen[eral] Marshall about it.
He'd no business, whatever to call me. The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement on world affairs.
Henry brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed. When the country went backward-and Republican in the election of 1946, this incident loomed large on the D[isplaced] P[ersons] program.
The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes.
Look at the Congress[ional] attitude on D[isplaced] P[ersons]-and they all come from D[isplaced] P[erson]s.
Well, well...
Henry brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed.
Maybe when Nessie gets out of the pokey he can give us the names of these people, where they came from, where they went, etc., etc., etc.

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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by been-there » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:32 pm

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Here is an example of the self-centred mentality increasingly divorced from reality of the Jewish population of what they call 'the Jewish State of Israel'.
They think they can intimidate and scare people from having and voicing an opinion on their brutality to non-Jews.
To attempt to do that they have just fined two people living in New Zealand for writing a letter to a pop star asking her to not perform in Israel whilst it continues its genocidal, racist, apartheid policies.

DO THEY SERIOUSLY BELIEVE that the emotional stress of some Jewish teenagers who were disappointed not to see Lorde in concert is something you can fine over???
If they do, then these people's idea of their own special suffering is genuinely insane!!

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Here is an excerpt from an article with the letter the two women wrote in reply.
An Israeli court has ordered Jewish New Zealander Justine Sachs and Palestinian New Zealander Nadia Abu-Shanab to pay thousands after Lorde cancelled a Tel Aviv concert.

“This morning we woke up to find Israeli courts have ordered us to pay more than US $12,000 in damages to three Israeli teenagers. They have allegedly suffered emotional distress as a result of our role in Lorde cancelling her planned concert in Tel Aviv. She chose instead to respect the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign.

Hundreds of unarmed protestors have been killed in Gaza, and Israel has passed new nation state laws that strip thousands of their own citizens of their rights. Despite these horrific developments, it is us, not Israel, who are being confronted with a court ordered penalty for causing distress. This is as upside-down as it gets, but sadly also a reflection of the arrogance of the Israeli state. This can only be understood as further evidence of the Israeli state’s disregard for human rights and democracy.
...Emotional distress is a lived reality for Palestinians in Gaza, where over half of children suffer PTSD as a result of Israeli attacks.

We are inspired always by Palestinians in their pursuit of basic human dignity.”
See the whole letter here.
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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by Werd » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:34 pm

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/holoc ... sh-people/

Holocaust memorial plaque unveiled by Trudeau fails to mention Jewish people

The Ottawa Citizen reports that a memorial plaque unveiled by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the National Holocaust Museum in Ottawa, omitted the identity of the victims in the Holocaust.

Visitors had noticed that the big steel “dedication plaque” said that it was dedicated to millions of victims killed by the Nazi regime, but said nothing about their Jewish identity. It only mentioned that “millions of men, women and children [were] murdered during the Holocaust.”

Some Jewish groups felt that this was a failure.


Newly released government documents show that Canadian Heritage staffers focused on many details when planning the construction of the plaque. These were mainly related to measurements, manufacturing, and layout. However, they seemed to overlook the content of the plaque.

The Citizen wrote that hundreds of pages of emails from Canadian Heritage show that the design team discussed “the nuts and bolts of
manufacturing and positioning the plaque,” but never discussed the content of the message, which left them “unprepared for the public reaction.”

Three months before the opening, the team was analyzing the layout and text of the plaque, and specifying the dimensions for the manufacturer. They were also editing and proofreading the text, and making sure the translations were correct.

Then, a month before the unveiling, discussions were had about the positioning of the plaque, approving the text of mural labels, interpretive panels, and the big plaques. Finally, the plaques were ordered, costing about $53,810.

When the monument was unveiled, it was noticed that although the 13 interpretive panels and other content of the monument clearly mentioned Jewish people, the dedication plaque did not.

The then minister of Canadian Heritage Mélanie Joly scrambled to get answers about how this mistake could have been made. She asked employees. “What was the approval process for this text? Did it go by the committee? Was it included in the final decision note?” The final decision note signed by Joly did not mention the next.

They inquired as to whether the plaque could be removed and replaced. A few days later, it was removed. They told the media that the plaque was being rewritten to “better align with the interpretive panels.”

It cost $5,000 to remove it, and it is estimated to cost $50,000 to replace it.

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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by been-there » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:40 am

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Jewish Israeli 'historian' warns this:
"Israel will decline, and Jews will be a persecuted minority.
Those who can will flee to America."

Benny Morris in the same interview also admitted that the Jewish state occupying Palestine routinely lies to 'the West':
“Even if territorial compromise with the Palestinians is not realistic in this generation, as was also the case earlier, you have to play the diplomatic game – even if you know it won’t lead anywhere – in order to retain the West’s sympathy. You have to look like you’re pursuing peace, even if you’re not.”

Justifying his distrust of Palestinian memories and witness statenments regarding Jewish war crimes and massacres of non-Jews Benny Morris suggested the following ironic criteria. Criteria that would be demonised as 'anti-semitic' if it was applied to WW2 Jewish 'survivor' testimony:
"“You need to look at the motives of whoever has written a document, at his interest in promoting one truth and not another. But there’s no doubt that a contemporaneous document, written on the very day that the event occurred, in geographical and chronological proximity to what it is describing, is far more reliable than a person I converse with 50 years later and who has in the meantime heard another thousand versions of the story. There is also the problem of loss of memory or of repression of events that one doesn’t want to remember.”

Benny Morris also admitted in that interview that Jewish Israeli policy is to hide historical evidence that does not support their self-interest. I think we can conclude that they would do the same for older WW2 history also:
“There was censorship in the past, and there still is today, even more. That’s a problem that makes it hard to arrive at the truth. Files that were open to me in the 1990s are now closed to other researchers. For example, regarding Deir Yassin, one of the files that was closed then, too, contains the photographs of the victims. That is in the IDF Archive and has never been opened [to researchers]. As a historian, I think that’s awful, because when materials like that are concealed, it’s an attempt to distort the picture of the past, to tilt it and make things appear more rosy. If they are doing this with regard to Deir Yassin, they’re probably doing this in regard to many other documents, as a policy.”
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.6848498

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Q. How can he hold such views? Views that would be considered anathema were they applied to the 1960's-onward, Jewish-created 'holocaust' narrative?
A. Is it because being Jewish, Benny Morris regards Jewish suffering as "special", just as many Jews are conditioned to believe?
As was observed by Harry S. Truman in 1947?

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Harry S. Truman in a diary entry in 1947 wrote:The Jews, I find are very, very selfish.
They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as DP [Displaced Persons] as long as the Jews get special treatment.
Yet when they have power — physical, financial or political — neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog.

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Re: What is so special about 'Jewish' suffering?

Post by been-there » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:58 am

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Jewish couple removed from a flight due to their awful smell say it was due to 'anti-semitism'

Yossi and Jennie Adler deny giving off an unpleasant smell, and say they were picked out by American Airlines because they are Jewish. The airline insists deplaning was due to their body odour.

A young couple with their child were kicked off a flight after other passengers complained to the crew about their overpowering body odour. Yossi Adler, his wife, Jennie, and their one-year-old daughter were trying to return home to Detroit from a vacation in Miami when they were escorted off their American Airlines flight. They became indignant and denied the reason is because of their personal hygiene causing problems for other passengers. Consideration of the comfort of all those other passengers isn't important. What is important is their perception of a prejudice against them because of their religion.

‘There’s no body odour that we have. There’s nothing wrong with us,’ Yossi Adler told Local 10 News on Thursday.
‘All of a sudden, as soon as they took us off, they closed the gate and then they said, “Sorry, sir, some people complained you had body odour and we’re not letting you back on,”‘ he continued.

American Airlines released a statement following the incident acknowledging the reason that they were barred from flying.
American Airlines wrote:‘Mr. Adler and his wife were removed from the flight when several passengers complained about their body odour. They have been booked into a hotel for the night and given meal vouchers. They have been rebooked on a flight Thursday.’
Yossi said he was skeptical that body odour was the reason they were removed from the plane and said he wanted to know what actually happened. ‘I want them to own up to what really happened and tell me the truth. What was it?’ he said. The Adlers reportedly made it back to Detroit and their luggage was there when they arrived.

“There’s a religious reason for some reason that they’re kicking me off the plane. We don’t have odour, OK? Nobody here has odour,” Adler can be heard saying in cellphone footage.

Shortly after, an airline employee replied, “Now you told me for religious reasons you don’t shower, is that what you said?”

“No I didn’t! I shower every day. I said you kicked me off because of religious reasons,” Adler replied.

Read more: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-fa ... omplaints/
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