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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by rollo the ganger » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:17 am

US Calvary reason for killing Indian children:

"Nits make lice!!!"

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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by been-there » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:02 am

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The 'holy' scripture here below is from the Hebrew TORAH (its also included in the Christian Old Testament as Numbers 31).
'Torah' means 'instructions'. I.e. its a training manual.
In Hebrew, the book is called Bmidbar, which means 'in a desert,' because it is the account of their forty years of wandering about.

It can be taken as a sign of the mentality of Jewish (and Christian) culture that this memorialised, genocidal behaviour is justified by them as being ordered by their 'holy' prophet, the founder of the jewish religion. They even claim that it was sanctioned by their tribal 'God'.
This they then proudly recorded for posterity and is still revered in a supposedly 'holy' book?! :o

The Jewsh 'prophet' Moses — claiming to be following the Jewish tribal God Yahweh’s command — instructs Yahweh's 'chosen people' the Jews to finish their invasive military operation against the Midianites. They've already killed ALL the men. Read on...
The Lord said to Moses “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.”

So Moses said to the people, “Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites so that they may carry out the Lord’s vengeance on them.

...They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man.

...The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest...

...Moses was angry with the officers of the army...
Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them.

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

...The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

...Moses and Eleazar the priest accepted from them [the commanders] the gold — all the crafted articles. All the gold from the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds that Moses and Eleazar presented as a gift to the Lord weighed 16,750 shekels. Each soldier had taken plunder for himself. Moses and Eleazar the priest accepted the gold from the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds and brought it into the tent of meeting as a memorial for the Israelites before the Lord.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by been-there » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:46 pm

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Concerning the 'holy'(?) scrpture above. Want to know why Moses — and ...errm.. ok, yeah, Yahweh too — was pissed off with the Midianites? Here's a brief explanation:
Numbers,
Chapter 31

As with the story of Dinah, it is sexual misbehavior that spurs the ugliest, evilest biblical vengeance. At the start of the chapter, God tells Moses he must complete one more task before he dies: taking vengeance against the Midianites. Why? For the fairly piddling crime already described in Chapter 25 where God was threatening punishment for Israelites who'd been whoring with Moabite women. At that very moment, an Israelite walked by the Tent of Meeting with his Midianite girlfriend. Phineas speared the couple to death. God, delighted by Phineas' zealotry, stops the plague he had sent against the Israelites as punishment for their lechery. Even so, 24,000 Israelites die. For reasons I can't understand, God and Moses hold the entire Midianite nation responsible for this mess, and they want payback. If you ask me—and Moses didn't--the Bible is willfully ignoring the obvious point. It was the Moabite women, not the Midianite women, who did the dreadful whoring that provoked God's rage and the plague. Going after the Midianites to punish a Moabite crime is as nonsensical as the United States invading Iraq to teach al-Qaida a lesson. (Oh, wait. We did that.)

Moses dispatches his army, which quickly kills the five Midianite kings and slaughters all the Midianite men. (This is not the war crime, but rather everyday policy.) The Israelites capture all the Midianite women and children and march them back to camp. Moses is furious that the Midianite women have been spared. (This chapter also fails to mention that Moses himself is married to a Midianite woman!) Moses orders his troops to execute all the Midianite boys and all the Midianite females except for the virgins. Isn't this a kind of sick, grotesquely disproportionate atrocity? It's collective punishment of a most repellent sort—and all to take revenge for the one bad date between an Israelite and a Midianite girl! Numbers informs us, with its usual fondness for precision, that 32,000 virgin females survive the mass execution (and were then enslaved, incidentally). By my rough estimate, this means the Israelites killed more than 60,000 captive, defenseless women and boys.

Let's pause for a second to consider Moses' rage, which I find almost incomprehensible. For most of the last three books, Moses has been restraining God. The Lord loses his temper with His disobedient people, and Moses persuades Him to show mercy. But God is on the sidelines during the Midianite slaughter: It is Moses who's bloodthirsty. Where does his new anger come from? Is it the fury of a frustrated old man who's been barred from his Promised Land? Is it the homicidal megalomania that descends on so many dictators who hold power too long?

What is particularly poignant is that Moses himself seems to know that this massacre of innocents is wrong. He orders his death squads to stay outside of camp after they finish their butchery. They need a week away from the Tabernacle to purify themselves. The Bible never mentions such a quarantine for Israelite soldiers after other battles. But, as Moses recognises, these killings are not war, they are murder, and they defile his people.
More on how Europeans who think they are God's chosen people, who believe they have been given Palestine by God, AND who also don't even believe in a God, still think no laws or moral ethics apply to their treatment of people they see as 'goyim':

The lies and self-deceptions at work within Israel’s ‘moral’ army

The National – 4th March 2018

It is has been a very bad week for those claiming Israel has the most moral army in the world. Here’s a small sample of abuses of Palestinians in recent days in which the Israeli army was caught lying.

A child horrifically injured by soldiers was arrested and terrified into signing a false confession that he was hurt in a bicycle accident. A man who, it was claimed, had died of tear-gas inhalation was actually shot at point-blank range, then savagely beaten by a mob of soldiers and left to die. And soldiers threw a tear gas canister at a Palestinian couple, baby in arms, as they fled for safety during a military invasion of their village.

In the early 2000s, at the dawn of the social media revolution, Israelis used to dismiss filmed evidence of brutality by their soldiers as fakery. It was what they called “Pallywood” – a conflation of Palestinian and Hollywood.

In truth, however, it was the Israeli military, not the Palestinians, that needed to manufacture a more convenient version of reality.

Last week, it emerged, Israeli officials had conceded to a military court that the army had beaten and locked up a group of Palestinian reporters as part of an explicit policy of stopping journalists from covering abuses by its soldiers.

Israel’s deceptions have a long history. Back in the 1970s, a young Juliano Meir-Khamis, later to become one of Israel’s most celebrated actors, was assigned the job of carrying a weapons bag on operations in the Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank. When Palestinian women or children were killed, he placed a weapon next to the body.

In one incident, when soldiers playing around with a shoulder-launcher fired a missile at a donkey, and the 12-year-old girl riding it, Meir-Khamis was ordered to put explosives on their remains.

That occurred before the Palestinians’ first mass uprising against the occupation erupted in the late 1980s. Then, the defence minister Yitzhak Rabin – later given a Hollywood-style makeover himself as a peacemaker – urged troops to “break the bones” of Palestinians to stop their liberation struggle.

The desperate, and sometimes self-sabotaging, lengths Israel takes to try to salvage its image were underscored last week when 15-year-old Mohammed Tamimi was grabbed from his bed in a night raid.

Back in December he was shot in the face by soldiers during an invasion of his village of Nabi Saleh. Doctors saved his life, but he was left with a misshapen head and a section of skull missing.

Mohammed’s suffering made headlines because he was a bit-player in a larger drama. Shortly after he was shot, a video recorded his cousin, 16-year-old Ahed Tamimi, slapping a soldier nearby after he entered her home.

Ahed, who is in jail awaiting trial, was already a Palestinian resistance icon. Now she has become a symbol too of Israel’s victimisation of children.

So, Israel began work on recrafting the narrative: of Ahed as a terrorist and provocateur.

It emerged that a government minister, Michael Oren, had even set up a secret committee to try to prove that Ahed and her family were really paid actors, not Palestinians, there to “make Israel look bad”. The Pallywood delusion had gone into overdrive.

Last week events took a new turn as Mohammed and other relatives were seized, even though he is still gravely ill. Dragged off to an interrogation cell, he was denied access to a lawyer or parent.

Shortly afterwards, Israel produced a signed confession stating that Mohammed’s horrific injuries were not Israel’s responsibility but wounds inflicted in a bicycle crash.

Yoav Mordechai, the occupation’s top official, trumpeted proof of a Palestinian “culture of lies and incitement”. Mohammed’s injuries were “fake news”, the Israeli media dutifully reported.

Deprived of a justification for slapping an occupation soldier, Ahed can now be locked away by military judges. Except that witnesses, phone records and hospital documentation, including brain scans, all prove that Mohammed was shot.

This was simply another of Israellywood’s endless productions to automatically confer guilt on Palestinians. The hundreds of children on Israel’s incarceration production line each year have to sign confessions – or plea bargains – to win jail-sentence reductions from courts with near-100% conviction rates.

It is more Franz Kafka than Hollywood.

A second army narrative unravelled last week. CCTV showed Yasin Saradih, 35, being shot at point-blank range during an invasion of Jericho, then savagely beaten by soldiers as he lay wounded, and left to bleed to death.

It was an unexceptional incident. A report by Amnesty International last month noted that many of the dozens of Palestinians killed in 2017 appeared to be victims of extra-judicial executions.

Before footage of Saradih’s killing surfaced, the army issued a series of false statements, including that he died from tear-gas inhalation, received first-aid treatment and was armed with a knife. The video disproves all of that.

Over the past two years, dozens of Palestinians, including women and children, have been shot in similarly suspicious circumstances. Invariably the army concludes that they were killed while attacking soldiers with a knife – Israel even named this period of unrest a “knife intifada”.

Are soldiers today carrying a “knife bag”, just as Meir-Khamis once carried a weapons bag?

A half-century of occupation has not only corrupted generations of teenage Israeli soldiers who have been allowed to lord it over Palestinians. It has also needed an industry of lies and self-deceptions to make sure the consciences of Israelis are never clouded by a moment of doubt – that maybe their army is not so moral after all.

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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by been-there » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:55 am

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Not only deeply racist and arrogant explanation for why there is no peace in occupied Palestine, but delusional too.
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Post by been-there » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:46 pm

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What disturbs the [Israeli] Right is not the occupation, but those who attempt to expose the violence that maintaining military rule over a civilian population requires.


"“Thousands of videos won’t change the fact – Breaking the Silence is an organisation that slanders IDF soldiers around the world and is based on the distortion of facts and lies.”
Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked made this Kafkaeqsue remark after video documentation contradicted the prosecutor’s version of events in the show trial of Breaking the Silence spokesperson Dean Issacharoff. This material, which revealed that the government had interrogated the wrong Palestinian in an intentional attempt to portray Issacharoff as a liar, led to the opening of a new case. But according to Shaked, new evidence won’t change her conclusion.

Since Shaked’s comments, at least five videoed accounts of even more severe IDF violence against Palestinians in the West Bank have surfaced. In one of the videos, a soldier from the Givati Brigade forcefully hits a Palestinian boy in the head, knocking him to the ground.


In another, an Israeli Border Police officer throws a stun grenade at a Palestinian couple holding a baby. In the most disturbing video, IDF soldiers beat an already wounded Palestinian man, Yassin Saradih, and deny him medical treatment for a gunshot wound. Saradih died in IDF custody.



In all of the videos, these are ordinary combat soldiers. Indeed, their actions are so ordinary in the reality of the occupation that the day after Saradih died in IDF hands, the unit’s commander commended his soldiers for “neutralising the terrorist.”

In a desperate attempt to obscure the violence of the occupation, the head of the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), the Israeli army unit that governs the occupied territories, announced that Mohammed Tamimi (who suffered a fractured skull when soldiers shot him in the head with a rubber-coated bullet) had not actually been shot, but had injured his head falling off of a bike.

Dozens of eye-witnesses, a CT scan, and a shell-casing removed from Mohammed’s skull were not enough to prevent the IDF from portraying the army and Israeli society as the victims of a Palestinian propaganda campaign. The missing part of Mohammed’s skull was, according to the army, the result of “the Palestinian culture of lies and incitement,” for after the boy “lied” about being shot in the head, the Palestinians were forced to operate on him, which is how part of his skull came to be missing. To prove this, our brave soldiers raided the village of Nabi Saleh, where Mohammed Tamimi lives, in the middle of the night to arrest the injured boy in his bed and bring him in for interrogation, where he allegedly confessed to have fallen off his bike.

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Mohammed Tamimi, 15 yrs old, shot in the head with a rubber-coated bullet by the Israeli army

The Right has met all of this with silence. Almost no one has asked: if in a case as obvious and terrible as Mohammed Tamimi’s, the IDF forced a confession, how many other false confessions are there? How many people are currently imprisoned for months and years on the basis of similarly forced confessions?"

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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by Charles Traynor » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:12 pm

In another topic b-t wrote:
been-there wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:39 am
Well here are some suggestions just off the top of my head as movement towards some solution:
1.) we ALL insist the police obey and follow the law themselves when carrying out their duties.
2.) we as a society do not lie to excuse their lawlessness just because we have a racial prejudice against their victims.
3.) we acknowledge and rectify situations where the police and the judiciary operate from racially biased attitudes.
If you had to patrol an American city like Chicago or Detroit alongside the police for just a few days you'd soon change your tune and understand why policing has gotten out of control in America. Liberal race deniers want to live in jungles filled with animals without getting eaten. The price they pay for this is a militarized police and the occasional Congoid being killed whilst resisting arrest.
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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by aemathisphd » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:28 pm

Charles Traynor wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:12 pm
In another topic b-t wrote:
been-there wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:39 am
Well here are some suggestions just off the top of my head as movement towards some solution:
1.) we ALL insist the police obey and follow the law themselves when carrying out their duties.
2.) we as a society do not lie to excuse their lawlessness just because we have a racial prejudice against their victims.
3.) we acknowledge and rectify situations where the police and the judiciary operate from racially biased attitudes.
If you had to patrol an American city like Chicago or Detroit alongside the police for just a few days you'd soon change your tune and understand why policing has gotten out of control in America. Liberal race deniers want to live in jungles filled with animals without getting eaten. The price they pay for this is a militarized police and the occasional Congoid being killed whilst resisting arrest.
What would you know about what things are like in Detroit or Chicago?

Want to solve the problem of police violence? How about:
* Better training
* Better pay
* The right for them to unionize
* Requiring them to live in the communities they police

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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by Charles Traynor » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:36 pm

aemathisphd wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:28 pm

What would you know about what things are like in Detroit or Chicago?
Are you denying parts of Detroit and Chicago are for all intents and purposes war zones where the sound of gunfire can be heard everyday?
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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by aemathisphd » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:37 pm

Charles Traynor wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:36 pm
aemathisphd wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:28 pm

What would you know about what things are like in Detroit or Chicago?
Are you denying parts of Detroit and Chicago are for all intents and purposes war zones?
Are you accustomed to answering questions with questions?

You'd have a point if police shootings of unarmed black men were occurring only in the worst neighborhoods of our major cities. This is demonstrably a false proposition, however.

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Re: Institutionalised, racist attitudes and behaviour! :(

Post by Charles Traynor » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:24 pm

Being killed by the police is probably the last thing the animals inhabiting Americas jungle cities worry about. Being wasted by a Bro from another criminal street gang is thousands of times more likely to be the way most of these savages will meet their end.

I agree better training would probably help the situation with the police. Perhaps an increase in the basic recruitment standards would also assist in increasing their professionalism?
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