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Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:20 am
by been-there
torus9 wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:18 am
I never gave punk rock any more attention than the 15 seconds it didn't even deserve. I was a teenager who could see through the pretentious facade of recording contracts, deadlines, distribution royalties, lawyers, tour dates, expectations. Punk, my ass.
Punk rock was created in the UK by teenagers and youth with cheap equipment. YOU presumably weren’t there. 8-)
It was an emancipation.
A much needed revolution.
It let young people make music for young people again and it revolutionised the usual route to a career in popular music.
New record labels, etc., were created to take the making of music OUT of the hands of the fat-cat businessmen. The money-men in suits and ties had to initially watch in disdain but then scramble to get a foot in the door.

Prior to the punk revolution, to be in a gigging band that got gigs in pubs/clubs, the expectation was to have the best gear possible: instruments, amplifiers, a PA, mikes, effect pedals.
Punk destroyed that expectation. Literally destroyed it. I was in a band prior to the punk revolution so know from first hand experience.
And that was a GREAT thing!

I also was disdainful initially, but quickly changed my mind when I saw the welcome changes it brought.

I remember seeing The Cure when they had their first single in the charts, at (I think) the Bournemouth Winter Gardens in 1976-ish, and being amazed that they played a large hall with just tiny amps and Woolworth guitars fed into the hall’s big PA system. They DELIBERATELY rejected the Fenders and Gibsons and walls of Marshall’s approach that was then prevalent. And they still made a glorious sound.
That made young people realise anyone could form a band and write songs. You didn’t need all that expensive gear and self-indulgent, egocentric, flatulent-masturbatory-‘virtuosity’ to make interesting, fun, entertaining music. You ONLY needed cheap instruments, a few chords and the guts to get up on stage and risk rejection.

So many great bands and songs came out of Punk — or as it was also called, New Wave:
The Cure, The Police, Ian Dury and the Blockheads, Elvis Costello, Magazine, Sham 69, The Stranglers, Siouxie and the Banshees, The Damned, The Buzzcocks, U2, The Pretenders, Adam and the Ants, The Clash, The Boomtown Rats, TRB, The Jam, Blondie, XTC, Billy Idol, Gang of Four, Stiff Little Fingers, etc., etc.

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:58 pm
by torus9
That's nice. punk was for phucking retards...with premature ejaculation issues. Like a young Peter Townsend smashing his surrogate dick on The Smothers Brothers for instance.

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:02 pm
by blake121666
Yeah. There has ALWAYS been Indie and people without expensive equipment that made music. The record companies intended to make big profits out of talentless hack "musicians" with the punk thing. People with talent ask for appropriate money when signing record deals. Bums off the street will take anything they can get.

That was punk in a nutshell.

Some weren't entirely awful - not very many though. They were generally more "fartsy" than "artsy". I prefer the balance to go the other way with unknown acts. Most Americans did at the time. Punk had no legs here in the states. Towards the end, even the term had to change a few times - to "New Wave" and things like that. Punk had THAT bad of a taste to Americans.

Brits apparently thought it was more "artsy" than we did.

BT has it backwards. Those who are serious invest in their serious projects. If expensive instruments or whatever is required, then the money can be found for talent. Punks typically had no talent and no interest in being serious about or investing in themselves.

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:09 pm
by been-there
Ha ha. You old people. Sheesh. :|

Punk rock was a BRITISH phenomena. Americans copied it, but for a Brit, they were mere pretenders.

Chrissie Hynde was one of the best Yank Pretenders. But she — unlike most all other yank pretenders — had experienced the authentic British music revolution personally. She was touched by it in ways few Yanks were. She did — after all — temporarily date punk icon, the dim and doomed Mr. John Ritchie.

Don’t diss something you don’t understand.

You weren’t there.

So don’t be square.

Take a chill pill.... and Pump it up, boys!!!! 🙂

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:31 am
by torus9

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:35 am
by been-there
French Predident said this yesterday.
Is he deliberately lying or is he just delusional?
You decide:
French President Emmanuel Macron wrote:“One of our compatriots was murdered today
because he taught... the freedom of expression,
the freedom to believe or not believe”.
Do French people have the “freedom to not believe” the mass-gassing holocaust narrative?

Ask Vincent Reynouard.
Look how France treated it’s law abiding intellectual Professor Robert Faurisson.

Yet France insists it has the right to insult Muslms with DELIBERATELY offensive cartoons.

Hmmmm? I wonder why this disparity...?

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:58 am
by torus9
"I was compelled to wear a mask during my visit to the bank today in a province that also seeks to curtail Halloween. Phuckin nuts."

Re: Quote for the day:

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:42 am
by been-there
“...But unless you read history
and identify with the perpetrators
then you don’t understand
history at all”

~~ Jordan Peterson

@ 2:50