Should Holocaust Denial be a criminal offense!

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Re: Should Holocaust Denial be a criminal offense!

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aemathisphd wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:19 pm
I welcome the RODOH mods’ interference here — if you could, please confirm for our friend “Frankie” here that NSDAP does not post from any of my regular IP addresses, nor I from his/hers.
You can certainly refer to me as a "he". I wouldn't worry about the IP stuff aemathisphd. It is now clear from your name who you are, though when I first saw your nick I thought of the gem amethyst, The public figure Dr Andrew E Mathis currently works at the Department of Humanities, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia. Andrew does research in English Literature and World Literatures. Their most recent publication is 'GENERAL SEMANTICS AND HOLOCAUST DENIAL.' Somehow I do not think Dr Mathis is a National Socialist ; being a public credible figure to disguise himself as a member of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei would not be in his best interests one might think, considering what he is trying to achieve in his life time works. Hiding IP address is possible as you well know using VPN. Seems this
Frankie/ Lili/ [name] fellow is paranoid and not worth pursuing. I am more interesting in moving on and hearing your views. While one may disagree with Dr Mathis, I feel his work is worth reading, which gives everyone a more informed and wider perspective looking at all view points. He uses the claims of "general semantics" to analyze and test the claims of "Holocaust Denial". Semantics is the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them. I suspect that much of Dr Mathis's work is analytic a priori deductions, but as I have not read his work as of yet it is impossible to comment. As for whether denial should be a criminal offence: if it is debated in good faith then it should not be, but if it is intended to hate or disparage any group even the National Socialists then all sides should be taken to task. At the moment the debate is clearly one sided, probably due to the failure of Mr Irving to convince the court in the Lipstadt trial. The other consideration is if "revisionism" should be put in the same category. We as everyone here knows think the official version is not correct, but hypothesize a rogue SS element (who were NSDAP in uniform anyhow) caused the shocking mayhem. As this is a hypothesis still under investigation there is little point debating it as at the moment the dog is chasing its own tail.
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Re: Should Holocaust Denial be a criminal offense!

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NSDAP wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:27 pm
aemathisphd wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:19 pm
I welcome the RODOH mods’ interference here — if you could, please confirm for our friend “Frankie” here that NSDAP does not post from any of my regular IP addresses, nor I from his/hers.
You can certainly refer to me as a "he". I wouldn't worry about the IP stuff aemathisphd. It is now clear from your name who you are, though when I first saw your nick I thought of the gem amethyst, The public figure Dr Andrew E Mathis currently works at the Department of Humanities, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia. Andrew does research in English Literature and World Literatures. Their most recent publication is 'GENERAL SEMANTICS AND HOLOCAUST DENIAL.' Somehow I do not think Dr Mathis is a National Socialist ; being a public credible figure to disguise himself as a member of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei would not be in his best interests one might think, considering what he is trying to achieve in his life time works. Hiding IP address is possible as you well know using VPN. Seems this
Frankie/ Lili/ [name] fellow is paranoid and not worth pursuing. I am more interesting in moving on and hearing your views. While one may disagree with Dr Mathis, I feel his work is worth reading, which gives everyone a more informed and wider perspective looking at all view points. He uses the claims of "general semantics" to analyze and test the claims of "Holocaust Denial". Semantics is the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them. I suspect that much of Dr Mathis's work is analytic a priori deductions, but as I have not read his work as of yet it is impossible to comment. As for whether denial should be a criminal offence: if it is debated in good faith then it should not be, but if it is intended to hate or disparage any group even the National Socialists then all sides should be taken to task. At the moment the debate is clearly one sided, probably due to the failure of Mr Irving to convince the court in the Lipstadt trial. The other consideration is if "revisionism" should be put in the same category. We as everyone here knows think the official version is not correct, but hypothesize a rogue SS element (who were NSDAP in uniform anyhow) caused the shocking mayhem. As this is a hypothesis still under investigation there is little point debating it as at the moment the dog is chasing its own tail.
Since semantics seems to be cropping up alot lately: a proxy would hide the ultimate source IP address - not a VPN. A VPN would be a Virtual Private Network. This board has no VPN capabilities; but even if it did, the host would of course know what address it was communicating with - unless one entered a VPN through a proxy. :D
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Re: Should Holocaust Denial be a criminal offense!

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Wenn wir die Flagge, die wir aus dem Nichts gerissen haben, nicht halten können, müssen Sie, meine Söhne und Töchter, greifendie Fahne in deiner Faust...Führer der NSDAP Adolf Hitler
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J Rizoli gives his perspective on this topic. Quite interesting. I think revisionism might create a paradigm shift so that the world can see history and itself in a new light and come to different conclusions.
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