Was America ever great ?

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Was America ever great ?

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When was America great
This question intrigued me since Mr Trump started his campaign for the 2016 elections. I never realized it was great, though getting the atom bomb first made it respectable. So I sought help from The Tribune
The Tribune said:
My question for Trump and his supporters is: When was America great, and when did it fall from greatness?

Did it peak in 1945 after the US helped defeat Germany (without the Soviet troops pressing in from the Eastern Front, who knows how long it would have taken to squelch Hitler) and then dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, bringing them to submission?

Then the Cold War began, and Stalin went from ally to enemy (though it should be said that he was never fully trusted by Churchill or FDR). Domestically, Jim Crow was still in full force throughout the South, and restrictive covenants prevented “people of color” from buying or renting in white neighborhoods throughout the nation.

In the ’50s, the US reached a stalemate in Korea. In the ’60s, they had the Cuban missile crisis, JFK’s assassination, then a conflict in Vietnam that led to massive demonstrations against the war. In the ’70s, Watergate, the oil embargo and the Iran hostage crisis happened.

So maybe the US was still great in the ’80s, despite the Beirut barracks bombings that killed 241 U.S. troops — 40 times more than were killed in Benghazi, and despite the Iran-Contra mess.

Your thoughts on when America was great and what for.

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America's long slide down the toilet began in 1912 when the control of our money was turned over to the Jews and their "Federal Reserve" bank. Up until the crash of 29 there were hundreds if companies mfg cars, trucks. locomotives, agricultural equipment and machine tools. All kinds of heavy industry. The Jews "fixed" that with their manipulated "great depression/reset" of the 30s.

Hitler demonstrated what a country could do with the absence of the Jew banksters. The Jews demonstrated what misery they could create with their communism and were supported by another great American traitor, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Between the banksters and the US the Jews managed to take care of the Hitler problem. Americans enjoyed a brief respite post WW II known as "the golden age".

Kennedy knew from Hitler the value of a country controlling it's own currency and began reintroducing treasury notes, silver certificates. He was assassinated for his efforts. Which brings us to the third great traitor of the 20th century, Lyndon Johnson. Besides his insane war in Vietnam Johnson gave us the final nail in our coffin, the Hart-Celler Immigration Reform act of 1965. Two Jews, Emanuel Celler and Jacob Javits from New York managed to overturn the Reed-Johnson immigration act of 1924 and opened the floodgates of the shitskin invasion of the US. It's been downhill ever since.

So, the degradation of the US into its current state was led by a troika of democrat presidents. Woodrow Wilson, an academic, Rossevelt, the scion of a dope pedlar and Johnson, the crook from Texas and a suspected crypto-Jew. Trump has tried to reverse just a minimum of that misery index. That has so alarmed the Jews and their minions that they considered their only option to be installing the corrupt Biden crime family in the White house by fraud.

Congratulations for your efforts on behalf of the Jews, Hunt.

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That was an excellent analysis of the destruction of America and the Jewish role in it, Turnagain. I imagine by 1912 life would have been getting fairly comfortable in the new nation and with no new frontiers to explore or warring Injun tribes to subdue spiritual man who had conquered the frontiers would have begun to be replaced by material man. Material man is very vulnerable to the Jewish parasite and the flooding of a formally white nation with the very worst dregs of the Third World would give the parasite Jew greater opportunity to hide from the host.



We must also consider whether Jews are parasites or parasitoids. A parasitoid, according to Wikipedia,

…unlike a true parasite… ultimately sterilizes or kills, and sometimes consumes, the host. Thus, parasitoids are similar to typical parasites except in the more dire prognosis for the host.

Even in the animal kingdom this behavior seems somewhat inexplicable, in that continuing the parasitic relationship indefinitely seems to be in the parasite’s best interests — so why kill or sterilize the host? Such behavior may be inadvertent, and not too harmful to the parasite when host bodies are plentiful. It may be a trade-off for faster reproduction. In other cases, the host’s death may simply be necessary for the parasite to complete its life cycle, as where young parasites may need a rotting body for food, or when the decaying corpse attracts other organisms which are needed as a vector of the parasites’ propagation. Or the death of the host may be required by the parasite when the host organism could become dangerous to the parasite if allowed to live “too long” and develop countermeasures which might result in the parasite’s death.

It is this last explanation that applies to the Jews, I believe. Dr. Revilo P. Oliver, in his book The Jewish Strategy, discusses the change in the relationship between the Jews and our race which took place in the 20th century and especially after World War 2. He wrote in the 1980s:

[A] distinct change has taken place in the Jews’ activity in this century and at approximately the time of the “Protocols.”

Before this, the aliens seem to have been content to exploit the Aryans and, in biological terms, feed on them; the present objective is obviously extermination of our species through mongrelization and massacres, so that it would seem that the organization and domination of the Jewish colonies by the Zionists produced a change in purpose that must, to a large extent at least, have been consciously determined and planned.

This implies some measure of rule by some kind of directorate that has the ability and power to set objectives for the race. The alternative is to explain the change as a natural result of the progressive weakening of our race by less direct attacks during the past thousand years or more, comparable to the change in the activity of a wolf pack when it senses that the harried caribou are nearing exhaustion.

Whatever the explanation, the Jews’ determination to exterminate the Aryans is not unreasonable.
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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:36 am
America's long slide down the toilet began in 1912 when the control of our money was turned over to the Jews and their "Federal Reserve" bank. Up until the crash of 29 there were hundreds if companies mfg cars, trucks. locomotives, agricultural equipment and machine tools. All kinds of heavy industry. The Jews "fixed" that with their manipulated "great depression/reset" of the 30s.

Hitler demonstrated what a country could do with the absence of the Jew banksters. The Jews demonstrated what misery they could create with their communism and were supported by another great American traitor, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Between the banksters and the US the Jews managed to take care of the Hitler problem. Americans enjoyed a brief respite post WW II known as "the golden age".

Kennedy knew from Hitler the value of a country controlling it's own currency and began reintroducing treasury notes, silver certificates. He was assassinated for his efforts. Which brings us to the third great traitor of the 20th century, Lyndon Johnson. Besides his insane war in Vietnam Johnson gave us the final nail in our coffin, the Hart-Celler Immigration Reform act of 1965. Two Jews, Emanuel Celler and Jacob Javits from New York managed to overturn the Reed-Johnson immigration act of 1924 and opened the floodgates of the shitskin invasion of the US. It's been downhill ever since.

So, the degradation of the US into its current state was led by a troika of democrat presidents. Woodrow Wilson, an academic, Rossevelt, the scion of a dope pedlar and Johnson, the crook from Texas and a suspected crypto-Jew. Trump has tried to reverse just a minimum of that misery index. That has so alarmed the Jews and their minions that they considered their only option to be installing the corrupt Biden crime family in the White house by fraud.

Congratulations for your efforts on behalf of the Jews, Hunt.
The JFK Federal Reserve conspiracy theory is bogus as hell. G. Edward Griffin (author of "The Creature from Jekyll Island") even always told people that:

https://freedomforceinternational.org/p ... k_and_fed/

As it says on the silver certificate wikipedia page under "End of the silver certificates"
wikipedia wrote:Public Law 88-36 (PL88-36) was enacted on 4 June 1963 which repealed the Silver Purchase Act of 1934 ...
In repealing the earlier laws, PL88-36 also repealed the authority of the Secretary of the Treasury to control the issue of silver certificates. By issuing Executive Order 11110, President John F. Kennedy was able to continue the Secretary's authority
That was all EO-11110 did. It gave back to the Secretary of the Treasury the power to issue silver certifcates - which an earlier bill of that year had taken away from him.

As you can see on that wikipedia page above, silver certificates were issued, for example, by the Treasury under Ike - in 1953 through 1957.

There was nothing done under Kennedy w.r.t. this that didn't happen under the previous administration.

The whole JFK-Fed thing is a load of crap. There was no plan to phase out the Fed with this. Ironically, the opposite was the case. Kennedy in fact was phasing out Silver Certificates at this time - which became finalized in '67-'68. EO-11110 was only a technicality reassigning their issuance back to the Treasury until all the "i"s got dotted and "t"s got crossed on the matter. If you don't belive me, tell me how many silver certificates you came across at that time - given that you obviously lived at that time. I doubt it was very many. They were being phased OUT - not phased in. The conspiracy theory is not only wrong - it's bass ackwards!

EDIT: And FYI, the currency we use is extremely similar to the Nazi's currency - fiat currency based on debt. Hitler's money was based on debt to workers for their work - and so, essentially, is ours. Conspiracy theorists are ignorant boobs on these matters. But, unlike us, internationally, the Nazis were broke and had to barter - since Germany had made its money worthless in the '20s through hyper-inflation to try to con WWI victors into accepting their worthless currency as being worth what it was before they made it worthless - their currency couldn't be trusted as a measure of "money".
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I didn't say that Kennedy's edict on silver certificates was the sole reason he got whacked. The mob, who had helped elect him, were pissed that the AG, Robert Kennedy was going after them. Kennedy's demand that there would be bi-annual inspections of the nuclear facility at Dimona pissed off the Jews. He intended to withdraw troops from Vietnam which pissed of the military industrial complex and declared that he wanted to dismantle the CIA. Kennedy clearly had more enemies than any man could put to good use.

BTW, the exchange of silver certificates for bullion ended June 24, 1968.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:23 pm
I didn't say that Kennedy's edict on silver certificates was the sole reason he got whacked. The mob, who had helped elect him, were pissed that the AG, Robert Kennedy was going after them. Kennedy's demand that there would be bi-annual inspections of the nuclear facility at Dimona pissed off the Jews. He intended to withdraw troops from Vietnam which pissed of the military industrial complex and declared that he wanted to dismantle the CIA. Kennedy clearly had more enemies than any man could put to good use.

BTW, the exchange of silver certificates for bullion ended June 24, 1968.
I edited my post to elaborate on the German "money" situation. Germany's money was no better than anyone else's - it was, in fact, worse. Hence the Nazi's need to shore it up a bit - due to the prior administration's schemes (which wreaked havoc to their population - not us).
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The young plan (and Dawes committee) is what got Germany's credit back on track. The Nazis simply went along with it - as they had to of course. None of the Federe crap played any part. Schact did what was needed to get on the USA's good side. And that was all that was needed.

In effect, it was the USA which revived Germany's currency. Nazi's just so happened to be in power at the time.

So none of this Nazi money crap conspiracy theories. Get yer head out of yer ass with that!
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Blake, your claim that Hitler's fiat currency was no different from the Fed's current fiat currency is laughable bullshit. Hitler simply printed money. He didn't have his treasury print money and give it to a central bank to "monetize".

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:32 pm
Blake, your claim that Hitler's fiat currency was no different from the Fed's current fiat currency is laughable bullshit. Hitler simply printed money. He didn't have his treasury print money and give it to a central bank to "monetize".
Whether it is the Fed or a more directly-controlled government agency is little difference. Governments tend to be worse at that sort of thing, actually. The Nazi's did ok though with Schacht. Regardless, the money is created through rules - which need to be sensible. Schacht was sensible enough to give stable currency (it appears).

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I have a number of typos above. I meant to say Federer of course, ... etc. Are my posts understandable to you? Are you familiar with the subject?

Germany was in debt to the WWI victors and played games to get out of it. And the victors had to work it out to get paid. The USA was the driving force in these matters. We had surpassed Britain as the world's creditor by that time - given the strength of our economic output.

Germany lacked raw material natural resources. Hence their need for Lebensraum. Hence WW2! That's the whole shebang in a nutshell. :D

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