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The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:34 pm
by montgomery2
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/quotes.html

Isn't it ironic that Chomsky likely wouldn't deny a single one, and in fact be proud to own!


ON COMMUNISM...
“One might argue, at least I would argue, that council communism... is the natural form of revolutionary socialism in an industrial society.”
(Government in the Future [Seven Stories Press, 2005], p. 27)
ON POVERTY...
“if we ever get anything like a kind of just society, things like my standard of living may very well not exist. In that sense, there will be, I think, material deprivation in some manner for a large part of the population. And I think there ought to be.”
(Interview, Black Rose, No. 1, 1974)
ON REVOLUTION...
“I suppose that, at some point, the ruling class will simply strike back by force, and there has to be defense against that force, and that probably means violent revolution.”
(Interview, Black Rose, No. 1, 1974)
ON TERROR...
“If it were true that the consequences of not using terror would be that the peasantry in Vietnam would continue to live in the state of the peasantry of the Philippines, then I think the use of terror would be justified.”
(Alexander Klein, ed., Dissent, Power and Confrontation [McGraw-Hill, 1971], p. 119)
ON DICTATORSHIPS...
— Maoist China
“But take China, modern China; one also finds many things that are really quite admirable... a good deal of the collectivization and communization was really based on mass participation and took place after a level of understanding had been reached in the peasantry...”
(Alexander Klein, ed., Dissent, Power and Confrontation [McGraw-Hill, 1971], pp. 117-8)
— Stalinist North Vietnam
“I would like to express the great joy that we feel in your accomplishments... Your heroism reveals the capabilities of the human spirit and human will.”
(Radio Hanoi, April 14, 1970)
— Pol Pot’s Cambodia
“the evacuation of Phnom Penh, widely denounced at the time and since for its undoubted brutality, may actually have saved many lives. It is striking that the crucial facts rarely appear in the chorus of condemnations.”
(After the Cataclysm [South End Press, 1979], p. 160)
ON AMERICA...
“Such facts as these... raise the question whether what is needed in the United States today is dissent or denazification... I myself believe that what is needed is a kind of denazification.”
(Ethics, October 1968)
ON REPUBLICANS...
“The new Republicans represent a kind of proto-fascism. There’s a real sadism. They want to go for the jugular. Anybody who doesn’t meet their standards, they want to kill, not just oppose, but destroy.”
(The Progressive, March 1996)
ON ZIONISM...
“Hitler’s conceptions have struck a responsive chord in current Zionist commentary.”
(Fateful Triangle [rev. ed., Pluto Press, 1999], p. 208)
ON JUDAISM...
“In the Jewish community, the Orthodox rabbinate imposes its interpretation of religious law... Were similar principles to apply to Jews elsewhere, we would not hesitate to condemn this revival of the Nuremberg laws.”
(Foreword, Sabri Jiryis, The Arabs in Israel [Monthly Review Press, 1976], p. viii)
ON ISRAEL...
“Israel’s ‘secret weapon’ ... is that it may behave in the manner of what have sometimes been called ‘crazy states’ in the international affairs literature... eventuating in a final solution from which few will escape.”
(Fateful Triangle [rev. ed., Pluto Press, 1999], pp. 468-9)
ON JEWS...
“The Jewish community here is deeply totalitarian. They do not want democracy, they do not want freedom.”
(Interview, Shmate: A Journal of Progressive Jewish Thought, Summer 1988)
ON ANTISEMITISM...
“Jews in the US are the most privileged and influential part of the population... privileged people want to make sure they have total control, not just 98% control. That’s why antisemitism is becoming an issue.”
(Variant, Scotland, Winter 2002)
ON THE HOLOCAUST...
“I see no antisemitic implications in denial of the existence of gas chambers, or even denial of the holocaust.”
(Quadrant, Australia, October 1981)
ON THE COLD WAR...
“in comparison to the conditions imposed by US tyranny and violence, East Europe under Russian rule was practically a paradise.”
(Letter, in Alexander Cockburn, The Golden Age Is In Us [Verso, 1995], pp. 149-151)
ON 9/11...
“for the first time in history the victims are returning the blow to the motherland.”
(La Jornada, Mexico, September 15, 2001)
ON AL-QAEDA...
“It’s entirely possible that bin Laden’s telling the truth when he says he didn’t know about the [9/11] operation.”
(9-11 [Seven Stories Press, 2001], p. 60)
ON LIBERATING AFGHANISTAN...
“Western civilization is anticipating the slaughter of, well do the arithmetic, 3-4 million people or something like that... Looks like what’s happening is some sort of silent genocide... we are in the midst of apparently trying to murder 3 or 4 million people...”
(Lecture, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, October 18, 2001)
ON LIBERATING IRAQ...
“But here’s a way to liberate Iraq... No US casualties, no threat to Israel, good chance of bringing democracy... Help Iran invade Iraq... They have a fair chance of introducing democracy.”
(Interview, The New Yorker, March 31, 2003)

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More and more Americans are coming to accept the wisdom in Chomsky's words, and so as a consequence this quotes by Chomsky are being seen much more now as being to his credit, as opposed to being to his discredit as the author intended. Each of the quotes can stand alone as being the truths that have become more obvious since the US buying into the madman Trump as their president. Let's discuss any of them here on this forum!

I'll begin with the following as it being one of the more obvious truths:
ON 9/11...
“for the first time in history the victims are returning the blow to the motherland.”

There's little doubt that Chomsky will mourn Faurisson's death because he was a great scholar.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:56 pm
by been-there
montgomery2 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:34 pm
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/quotes.html

ON JEWS...
“The Jewish community here is deeply totalitarian. They do not want democracy, they do not want freedom.”
(Interview, Shmate: A Journal of Progressive Jewish Thought, Summer 1988)

ON ANTISEMITISM...
“Jews in the US are the most privileged and influential part of the population...
privileged people want to make sure they have total control, not just 98% control.
That’s why antisemitism is becoming an issue.”

(Variant, Scotland, Winter 2002)

ON THE HOLOCAUST...
“I see no antisemitic implications in denial of the existence of gas chambers, or even denial of the holocaust.”
(Quadrant, Australia, October 1981)
Interesting..., very interesting...

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:14 pm
by montgomery2
been-there wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:56 pm
montgomery2 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:34 pm
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/quotes.html

ON JEWS...
“The Jewish community here is deeply totalitarian. They do not want democracy, they do not want freedom.”
(Interview, Shmate: A Journal of Progressive Jewish Thought, Summer 1988)

ON ANTISEMITISM...
“Jews in the US are the most privileged and influential part of the population...
privileged people want to make sure they have total control, not just 98% control.
That’s why antisemitism is becoming an issue.”

(Variant, Scotland, Winter 2002)

ON THE HOLOCAUST...
“I see no antisemitic implications in denial of the existence of gas chambers, or even denial of the holocaust.”
(Quadrant, Australia, October 1981)
Interesting..., very interesting...
Yeah, I agree! It's easy to stand with Chomsky but I'm more interested in finding out how the H.P.'ers are going to be able to stand against him. This link I posted came from the Skeptic's forum and it was posted as a discredit to Chomsky. Personally, I believe that there are few Americans who can equal his brilliance on so many different topics. And I think he would have a lot more to say against the holocaust legend if it was more politically acceptable to voice that sort of opinions.

I just hope that Chomsky lives long enough to be vindicated in person for his labours. Likely it will come after his death, as will Faurisson's.

The link came from the thread on Faurisson at SSF.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:08 pm
by Daniel
Him not seeing necessarily any anti-semitic implications in denial of the holocaust is his attempt to make sure if the shtf there will be a faction of Jewry running holocaust denial. All Jews are typical Jews.

The guy here has some cogent things to say about Chomsky that go well beyond the typical criticism regarding his gatekeeper attitude concerning 9/11.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:14 pm
by Daniel
Daniel wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:08 pm
Him not seeing necessarily any anti-semitic implications in denial of the holocaust is his attempt to make sure if the shtf there will be a faction of Jewry running holocaust denial. All Jews are typical Jews.

The guy here has some cogent things to say about Chomsky that go well beyond the typical criticism regarding his gatekeeper attitude concerning 9/11.
It would serve non-Jews well to view the Jews the way the Catholic Church used to view them, i.e. that there's no such thing as a good Jew. There were even some popes who made them wear special symbols on their clothing to distinguish them. All Jews are utterly toxic.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:07 pm
by VFX
montgomery2 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:34 pm

ON THE HOLOCAUST...

“I see no antisemitic implications in denial of the existence of gas chambers, or even denial of the holocaust.”
(Quadrant, Australia, October 1981)

Antisemitism is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. To deny the alleged holocaust and the implied gassing events is to deny the actions created by the Germans, which is denying mass extermination. If indeed it did not happen as many do attest then it should be denied, after considered rational reflection. If other alleged genocidal activities did not occur such as in the former Yugoslavia they too should be denied.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:34 am
by Huntinger
Daniel wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:14 pm
All Jews are utterly toxic.
The correct word is not toxic , but Untermensch. This statement is absurd as not all Jude are untermensch, only some and so are many others.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:18 am
by Daniel
Huntinger wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:34 am
Daniel wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:14 pm
All Jews are utterly toxic.
The correct word is not toxic , but Untermensch. This statement is absurd as not all Jude are untermensch, only some and so are many others.
I didn't use the word, you did. I used the word toxic. "Children of the devil" and "whited sepulchers" are a couple chestnuts. Anyone who publically and/or privately identifies as a Jew is garbage.

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:24 am
by Huntinger
Daniel wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:18 am
Huntinger wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:34 am
Daniel wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:14 pm
All Jews are utterly toxic.
The correct word is not toxic , but Untermensch. This statement is absurd as not all Jude are untermensch, only some and so are many others.
I didn't use the word, you did. I used the word toxic. "Children of the devil" and "whited sepulchers" are a couple chestnuts. Anyone who publically and/or privately identifies as a Jew is garbage.
I was trying to be kind Daniel. Thanks you for your thoughts on the "Jewish Question".

Re: The Wit and Wisdom of Noam Chomsky.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:37 am
by Huntinger
Daniel wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:14 pm
All Jews are utterly toxic.
The collective attitude id wrong cannot be great for humanity. This is toxicity. It is not Jude that is Untermensch: the title is contextual.
In reality the term is used to describe groups of people who fall below the standards of normal human standards in peace time with regards to economic circumstances.

One man has arisen above all for the prosperity of humanity: he is the spirit of humanity. Everything else is just pretentious idealism.
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