Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Roberto pees in the wind again with his distractive, dodging nonsense, but the CODOH Forum Moderator will have none of Roberto's panicked & desperately dodging non-response. :lol:
The CODOH Forum Moderator puts Roberto in his place again at:
http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywo ... sf=msgonly
Once again Roberto, you're not helping.

Your last post contained abusive & foul language.

You continue to dodge simple challenges.

As for your desire to only debate Mortimer and dodge Hannover & Co.; well, discussions here involve everyone, and all are free to join in, there are no 'one-on-one only' restrictions.

Being the world's no. 1 "holocaust" debate site, The CODOH Forum maintains standards that are way above all the others. We do realize that it can be difficult for those who hope to employ all manners of disruptive behavior. But sorry pal, no can do here.

Cheers, M1
The bloody massacre of Roberto's impossible "holocaust" at The CODOH Revisionist Forum continues unabated.
It makes Custer's Last Stand look like a walk in the park. :lol:

Come see what it looks like when the Zionist shysters can't run & hide. :lol:
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Great movie title: 'Desperately Dodging Roberto' :lol:


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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Lily wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:31 am
Roberto pees in the wind again with his distractive, dodging nonsense, but the CODOH Forum Moderator will have none of Roberto's panicked & desperately dodging non-response. :lol:
The CODOH Forum Moderator puts Roberto in his place again at:
http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywo ... sf=msgonly
Once again Roberto, you're not helping.

Your last post contained abusive & foul language.

You continue to dodge simple challenges.

As for your desire to only debate Mortimer and dodge Hannover & Co.; well, discussions here involve everyone, and all are free to join in, there are no 'one-on-one only' restrictions.

Being the world's no. 1 "holocaust" debate site, The CODOH Forum maintains standards that are way above all the others. We do realize that it can be difficult for those who hope to employ all manners of disruptive behavior. But sorry pal, no can do here.

Cheers, M1
The bloody massacre of Roberto's impossible "holocaust" at The CODOH Revisionist Forum continues unabated.
It makes Custer's Last Stand look like a walk in the park. :lol:

Come see what it looks like when the Zionist shysters can't run & hide. :lol:
The CODOH Revisionist Forum
http://forum.codoh.com/

Great movie title: 'Desperately Dodging Roberto' :lol:
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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Lily wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:31 am
Once again Roberto, you're not helping.

Your last post contained abusive & foul language.

You continue to dodge simple challenges.

As for your desire to only debate Mortimer and dodge Hannover & Co.; well, discussions here involve everyone, and all are free to join in, there are no 'one-on-one only' restrictions.

Being the world's no. 1 "holocaust" debate site, The CODOH Forum maintains standards that are way above all the others. We do realize that it can be difficult for those who hope to employ all manners of disruptive behavior. But sorry pal, no can do here.

Cheers, M1



Cheers, M1 ...

Only YOU are Moderator 1 , the fact you need a fictional character to rush to your aid , just show how pathetic your situation really is , as well as your inability to win a debate fairly

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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Lily wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:31 am
The bloody massacre of Roberto's impossible "holocaust" at The CODOH Revisionist Forum continues unabated.
It makes Custer's Last Stand look like a walk in the park. :lol:

http://forum.codoh.com/
Actually — history pedant mode initiated — there was no 'last stand' by Custer or his troops at the Little big horn encampment. That is another ahistorical deceit to try and make a courageous myth out of what was an attempted racist, genocidal massacre of women, children and the aged but which turned into a humiliating defeat and a cowardly rout when Custer discovered there were many more Indian warriors there than he thought.

With advances in metal detection, a thorough investigation of the site has fairly recently been done and the positions of spent cartridges and arrow heads shows exactly the trail of each retreating 7th Cavalryman and the position of their death.
Because each rifle cartridge has a distinctive mark from a firing pin, they were able to trace where each gun was fired, and therefore, where each soldier fought and how well they fought. Coupled with new interpretations of Native American accounts, this has helped historians piece together the ebb and flow of the battle and write a much different view of what actually happened.

...the relief force buried every soldier exactly where they had fallen and marked the spot with a wood cross. These were later replaced in 1890 with marble marker.

...Overwhelmed by superior numbers of Indians, the soldiers gave way to panic and fled. Indian accounts of the battle spoke of the soldiers acting like they were drunk, running like a buffalo stampede, throwing away their guns and crying like babies.
The Custer legend interpretation [ :lol: they mean 'lie'] depicted the soldiers in this part of the battle bravely fighting a retreat back to Last Stand Hill. The lack of gun casings in the area and the high number of marble markers leads archeologists to a new depiction [ :lol: they mean 'lead to the truth'] — that of panicked soldiers fleeing and being shot down as they ran. As you stand on Calhoun hill and see the white marble markers stretching out across the grassy slopes, each indicating the spot where a soldier fell, you can feel those awful[?] moments and get a sense of the terror [imminent retribution?] the men must have felt.

...The end came swiftly. Rather than the fight to the last bullet often depicted, nine men tried to escape by horseback heading south, but were cut down. Another 45 tried to break out towards the river or hide in a ravine, but they too were sought out and killed. Custer, flanked by his two loyal brothers, a beloved nephew and some 50 other troopers, was quickly overrun. From shell casings, we know the battle at the end lasted just minutes — not the long protracted battle of films.
After Custer himself fell, the remaining soldiers fled in a disorganised panic toward a stand of cottonwood. The stampede was such that an Indian warrior compared it with “hunting buffalo”.

The white men went crazy. Instead of shooting us, they turned their guns upon themselves. Almost before we could get to them, every one of them was dead. They killed themselves.” – Wooden Leg

More and more soldiers were getting off their horses, preferring to hide or crawl along the ground... As hundreds of Indians surrounded this ridge, I saw one of the soldiers point his pistol at his head and pull the trigger. Others imitated his example, sometimes shooting themselves, sometimes each other. When Chief Lame White Man reached the soldiers, all of them were already dead. Indians then attacked the first ridge, and again, most of the white men were already dead. The only thing remaining for the Indians to do was pick up the abandoned guns and ammunition.” – Kate Bighead
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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Lily wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:31 am
Roberto pees in the wind again with his distractive, dodging nonsense, but the CODOH Forum Moderator will have none of Roberto's panicked & desperately dodging non-response. :lol:
The CODOH Forum Moderator puts Roberto in his place again at:
http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywo ... sf=msgonly
Once again Roberto, you're not helping.

Your last post contained abusive & foul language.

You continue to dodge simple challenges.

As for your desire to only debate Mortimer and dodge Hannover & Co.; well, discussions here involve everyone, and all are free to join in, there are no 'one-on-one only' restrictions.

Being the world's no. 1 "holocaust" debate site, The CODOH Forum maintains standards that are way above all the others. We do realize that it can be difficult for those who hope to employ all manners of disruptive behavior. But sorry pal, no can do here.

Cheers, M1
This was the post that the above crap referred to:
Roberto wrote:
Hannover wrote:No dodging Roberto, tell us why you don't accept the Rudolf Report, which is here:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/

Recall that you previously said that cyanide was washed off the alleged 'gas chamber' walls after every alleged 'gassing'. Oops.
see:
'Roberto Muehlenkamp: 'gas chambers' were hosed down, so no cyanide'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3706

You have also ignored the question about Luftl put to you. Please address it.
Mortimer wrote:
- Hannover

Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.
No dodging? Now look who is talking.

And your signature shows that you still know as much about judicial proceedings and requirements as a pig does about Sunday, despite my patient explanations of what a court of law will demand and how (through reports and testimonies of expert witnesses) mass grave evidence, where available and necessary to make the case (it wasn't at the trials before the Nuremberg Military Tribunal, conducted according to US rules of evidence, and it wasn't at NS-crimes trials before courts of the German Federal Republic, conducted according to the defendant-friendly procedural rules of a democratic state of law) is introduced into judicial proceedings.

That aside, who are you to tell me how I should respond to Mortimer? Are you the moderator?

I assume you are, but that also doesn't give you the right to interfere in a discussion between two other posters.

And why do you interfere? Do you think Mortimer is not capable of responding for himself? Are you afraid I might lead him to discover something outside the tight walls of CODOH?

The latter concern may not be unjustified. Mortimer may become interested in the long discussion about Rudolf's arguments and Green's counterarguments that I had with Wahrheit in 2007, first with him on CODOH and me on that other forum you're afraid of mentioning, then with both of us on that forum. It wasn't all about moisture (a little is good, too much is bad), it was also about CO2, the ph of the walls and other interesting things. The conclusion we eventually reached, IIRC (I haven't yet reached the end of my reproduction of that discussion on the other forum) was that Rudolf had screwed himself, or failed to make his case at best.

Remember Wahrheit, Hannover? He was one of the best you had, now he's with us. Then Thomas Kues fell silent. Then Friedrich Jansson lost interest in the subject. Then BROI (one of the few Revisionists who did archival research, perhaps the only one besides Mattogno & Graf) repudiated Revisionism, and finally Eric Hunt reached the end of the line. Things don't look good for Revisionism. Maybe you'll be left alone or surrounded by some third-degree yes-men one of these days,

As to Lüftl, I acknowledged that he's an engineer, which was what I understood Mortimer wanted me to do. Whether he made any points that Rudolf failed to make is another matter. I consider that improbable as Rudolf, along with Mattogno, is one of the two big assets Revisionism has left. However, if Mortimer wants to discuss particulars of the Lüftl Report with me, I'll be glad to that. He'll have to do more than just post a link, however.

Now, kindly stay out of my discussion with Mortimer and let Mortimer speak for himself. Thank you.
So let's see:

"foul language": sensitive flower "Lily", who throws around abuse all the time, must have squirmed at my (quite appropriate) remark that he knows as much about judicial demands and proceedings as a pig does about Sunday. Poor little girl.

"dodge simple challenges": another of "Lily's filthy lies. I provided a brief answer to Mortimer's request for a brief explanation about why I didn't accept the Rudolf Report, which I answered in one sentence: Rudolf failed to provide proof that Prussian Blue must necessarily have formed in the homicidal gas chambers. I also pointed to a more detailed explanation of why this is so.

"ignored the question that Mortimer put to you": yet another filthy lie. The question was whether I acknowledged Lüftl's qualification as an engineer, and I answered that in the positive. The I asked Mortimer to show my what Lüftl is supposed to have added to Rudolf's report. If Mortimer wants to discuss Lüftl, he has to point out what parts of Lüftl's reports he considers particularly relevant and persuasive, namely what parts contain arguments that Rudolf (or Leuchter) failed to provide. Expecting that I reply to a link with a detailed refutation of the Lüftl report is as unreasonable and dishonest as can be. "Simple challenges" my ass.
Lily" wrote:The bloody massacre of Roberto's impossible "holocaust" at The CODOH Revisionist Forum continues unabated.
It makes Custer's Last Stand look like a walk in the park.
Actually the only massacre going on is the massacre of CODOH's last semblance of credibility as a forum for open debate by a cowardly and dishonest moderator. In order to "massacre" my posts, said moderator has to publish them first. But that he is too chicken to do.
Lily" wrote:Come see what it looks like when the Zionist shysters can't run & hide. :lol:
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Great movie title: 'Desperately Dodging Roberto' :lol:
Actually the one running and hiding here is compulsive liar and pathetic coward "Lily", who is scared shitless of my posts and therefore disapproves most of them on the flimsiest of pretexts, and even deletes posts he already approved (the latter has happened twice already). As to "dodging", the only case I have seen so far is Hannover's dodging my request for a primary source supporting his "ash pond" act and contradicting Nyiszli and Höss as concerns disposal of cremation remains on the thread https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11226 (see my posts under https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 226#p84264 and https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 226#p84264, the only ones on this thread that have been approved so far, and "Hannover"'s non-responses thereto), and on the thread https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11223 his dodging my response to his OP (https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 223#p84255) and my response to a subsequent post of his https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 223#p84257). Other than that, "Hannover" has studiously avoided a situation where he would have to dodge my evidence, arguments and questions due to his inability to respond to them - by disapproving my posts on laughable pretexts, or deleting posts he had already approved.

The post reproduced below has just been submitted on the thread https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11232, in response to Hektor's post under https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... =15#p84406:
Roberto wrote:
Hektor wrote:
Reviso wrote:
May I ask where these names come from ? Were these people evacuated to the East ? Thanks.
R.
They come from a variety of sources mostly "personal" testimony from partisans, but also ordinary people. Yes, from the testimony/documents it appeared they were Jews evacuated from West to East (Minsk).
Evacuation from West to East is one thing. We know it happened. German Jews were transported directly to Minsk, Riga and Kaunas in 1941 (the latter were killed directly upon arrival Jäger's Einsatzkommendo 3, see the excerpt from the Jäger Report and the list of names under the following link:
http://holocaustcontroversies.yuku.com/ ... t2038.html.
There were also Jews transported directly from Germany, Austria and the Protectorate to the Maly Trostinets extermination camp near Minsk. All these transports are well known and can be looked up in the deportation chronology under http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/c ... .de?page=1, which also mentions transports to Treblinka.

However, none of these transports meets the requirements of my challenge, for none of these transports went to the "Russian East" with a stopover at either of the camps Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór and Treblinka. There is still not a shred of evidence that there were transports to the "Russian East" from either of these camps, even though such evidence should be abundant for the reasons stated in my OP. Revisionist icon Jürgen Graf admitted to the lack of any documentary evidence in this direction when, on p. 1503 of MGK’s overlong response to the HC critique (critique under https://archive.org/details/BelzecSobib ... .ACritique, response under https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/28-tecoar-long.pdf[/url]), he wrote the following (emphasis added):
Jürgen Graf wrote:The only chapter where our opponents could hope to come close to a draw was their fourth one, authored by Harrison and Romanov about the resettlement thesis. While we revisionists can easily prove that Bełżec, Sobibór and Treblinka were transit camps, we are unable to produce German wartime documents about the destination and the fate of the deportees.


Absence of evidence may not be evidence of absence where one shouldn’t reasonably expect evidence, but it is evidence of absence where one should reasonably expect abundant evidence, as is the case here, for the reasons stated in my OP.

S. Rothstein's seems to be the only name presented by Revisionists that is supposed to support their transit camp theory, so some more detail is warranted here.

Rothstein is identified as transferred from Theresienstadt with the transport Br on 26.09.1942. The Yad Vashem database description (http://db.yadvashem.org/deportation/tra ... Id=5091986) states the following (emphasis added):
The transport, designated “Br”, departed from Theresienstadt on September 26, 1942 and was the fourth in a series of eight transports of sick and elderly Jews (“Alterstransporte”). On board were 2,004 inmates of Theresienstadt. It arrived in Treblinka on September 28 or 29. The transport was composed entirely of Jews who had been deported earlier from Germany and Austria, among them 617 deportees from Vienna and 584 from Berlin. Their average age was 72.
However, another page (https://portal.ehri-project.eu/units/il ... 4#desc-eng) contains the following information regarding the same transport (emphasis added):
List of 2,004 Jews deported from the Theresienstadt Ghetto to Maly Trostinec camp (to the East) on Transport Br, 26/09/1942 Br Osten 26.IX.42


So in this source the transport Br on 26.09.1942 is identified as a transport to the extermination camp Maly Trostinets near Minsk in Belorussia.

There are also further internet sources obviously relying on information from either of the above or their sources, but the essential points are the following:

1. Different destinations of the transport Br. Osten on 26.9.1942 from Theresienstadt are given by different sources or sets of sources, so one of these sources or sets of sources must be wrong.

2. The source(s) according to which the transport was bound for Maly Trostinets do(es) not state that the transport had a stopover at Treblinka.

3. There is also no other evidence that any trains bound for Maly Trostinets stopped at Treblinka.

It’s as simple as that. Different information in different sources, which do not complement but contradict each other as concerns the transport’s final destination. It's not a matter of one source claiming that Rothstein was killed at Treblinka an another claiming that he showed up in the "Russian East" after being at Treblinka. It's a matter of sources contradicting each other about the destination of one and same transport on which Rothstein was deported from Theresienstadt. One says that the transport went to Treblinka, another says that the same transport went to Maly Trostinets near Minsk. Both were extermination camps, so Rothstein was a dead man regardless of which of the two places was the train's destination. One of the sources must be wrong regarding the transport's destination, and neither makes Rothstein a person who went from Treblinka to the "Russian East".

So the only example Revisionists could muster for a person supposedly transferred through one of the Aktion Reinhardt camps or Chelmno to the "Russian East" predictably turned out to be a dud. The "transit" theory still has no evidence whatsoever that would support it. Not one bit.
Needless to say, compulsive liar and pathetic coward "moderator" will disapprove this post because he's scared shitless of a) my quote of Jürgen Graf's stating that "Revisionists" have no German documents to show in support of the "transit camp" theory, and b) my shredding of the "Revisionist" Rothstein canard. Let's see what laughable excuses he comes up with for doing that. Stay tuned!
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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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CWhite:

Looks good, don't you think Roberto?


My challenge to Revisionists is thus the following:

Please provide the name of at least one jew that you can prove to have been transited via Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór or Treblinka to what Korherr called the "Russian East", i.e. to a destination in the Reichskommissariat Ostland, the Reichskommissariat Ukraine or the Soviet territories under German military administration[/b]. By "transited" I mean that the person in question must have been taken to the respective camp (Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór or Treblinka), then shipped from that camp to a certain destination in the Nazi-occupied territories of the Soviet Union as defined above, e.g. to Minsk, Riga, Kovno or Kiev.

One name, with proof.

Just one name.

Please note that this challenge pertains specifically to the - 1,419,467 - jews that I can prove actually set foot in Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor or Treblinka II, and that I can prove were killed and buried in the camps to which they were deported. (Though I have yet to muster the courage, integrity and character to accept the challenge to put up or shut up and prove my unsubstantiated allegations - like any honest / legitimate researcher would.)

Also note that my fellow exterminationist "Nessie" alleges that at least 75 "huge mass graves" have been located / proven to exist - with the utmost certainty via the scientific method - within the boundaries of these four camps, and that he can also prove - with the utmost certainty and using the scientific method - that these four camps contain the remains of at least - 1,796,000 - jews. (Though he has yet to muster the courage, integrity and character to accept the challenge to put up or shut up and prove his unsubstantiated allegations - like any honest / legitimate researcher would.)

Last note: This challenge was born out of an amenable conversation between my old friend Greg Gerdes and me on the threads - $1,000.00 REWARD FOR THE NAME OF JUST ONE GASSED jEW - in which I did not earn so-much-as one sinlge penny in reward money - not one single penny!


CWhite:

When are we going to see the change on your website?



What are you waiting for roberto?

What are you so afraid of?
D - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, Germany used "resettlement to the east" as a euphemism for transiting jews to the so-called "top secret" - PURE EXTERMINATION CAMPS - Yes. - or - No. - ?? - Nessie's answer: Yes.

E - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the so-called "pure extermination camps" were - THE END OF THE LINE - for virtually everyone transited to those camps - Yes. - or - No. - ?? - Nessie's answer: Yes.

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II camps - ?? - Nessie's answer: True.

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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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My Fourth complaint
The post reproduced hereafter, on the thread https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11219, was deleted after having been appoved, as is proven by the fact that the direct link to that post (https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 219#p84303) now leads to the thread's OP.

Moreover the previous notification approving that post was removed to erase all traces of that post (as can be proven by a screenshot of the notifications list).

Please explain this flagrantly dishonest moderating behavior.
was in the meantime answered by the cretin as follows:
Post disapproved: "name a specific "holocaust" topic censored / banned here"

Reason: The reported message is off topic. There are topics / threads for each of your comments, which obviously have not been censored or banned. List of your dodged challenges coming..
Comments:

"off topic": :lol:

"which obviously have not been censored of banned": what a lying piece of shit this cretin is. And also a stupid liar, as there's proof that the post in question was deleted (but then, there' ample evidence that "Hannover" = moderator is the kind of stupid liar who would deny having eaten a sausage with half of it still sticking out of his throat.

"List of your dodged challenges coming": why, I must have pissed off the cretin. Hannover will now open a thread with a list of the "challenges" I'm supposed to have "dodged".

Same shit from "moderator" under https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11224 :
moderator wrote:You continue to ignore responses to your questions that you simply do not like.
A lie.
moderator wrote:You continue to dodge numerous challenges in spite of them being very specific & on topic.
Another lie.
moderator wrote:You make claims of censorship when what you have posted proves there has been no censorship.
And yet another lie, the stupidest of them all, coming as it does from a dishonest coward who, besides disapproving the overwhelming majority of my posts on the flimsiest of pretexts, deleted two posts after having approved them without giving any reason at all, and moreover erased the previous approval notifications regarding those posts from the notifications list. As I said before, [name] "Hannnover" [name], aka "Moderator", aka you-know-which-RODOH poster, is the kind of stupid liar who would deny having eaten a sausage with half of it still sticking out of his throat.

Oh, and here comes a threat:
moderator wrote:FYI:
I will be compiling a list of your dodges to make it easier for all to see.
Boy, am I frightened. :lol:

Actually I'm wondering how "Hannover" aka "Moderator" aka "Lily" will manage to put together that list without referring to all those post of mine that he has unduly disapproved or deleted.

And I'm looking forward to a new set of lies to slap around the cretin's ears, over there or (if needed, as the piece of shit may post his list on the closed moderator thread where no answers can be posted) on this thread.

So please fire away, "Hannover"/moderator asshole. Make my day.

By the way, what about the Fifth complaint:
The last one was the [fourth complaint, so this is the fifth one,

The post reproduced below, submitted on the thread https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11231 in response to Hannover's post under https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 231#p84318, was deleted after having been approved. This can be proven by screenshots of the thread taken following the post's approval and after the post's deletion. No you see it, now you don't.

Moreover the notification of this post's previous approval was removed, to erase all traces of the delete post. This can also be shown on hand of a screenshot.

Please explain this flagrantly dishonest moderating behavior.
The cretin obviously preferred to shut up about that one.

What's especially funny, given that "Hannover"/moderator is a compulsive liar to whom lying comes as naturally as breathing, is his custom signature:
Only lies need to be shielded from debate, truth welcomes it.
But then, maybe he's taking it quite seriously. Shielding lies from debate is what his "moderation" is all about.

My last response to Hektor on the thread https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 2&start=15 (reproduced under viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2978&start=70#p109907 ) hasn't yet been either approved or disapproved, by the way. The moderator must still be fishing for a pretext to disapprove it. Or then he will simply ignore it because he's sulking.

Meanwhile, I have perused the Yad Vashem advanced search engine (https://yvng.yadvashem.org/advanced-sea ... anguage=en) for names of victims from the areas of Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór and Treblinka between 1939 and 1945. I found the following:

Chelmno: 12,518 names with identified year and place of death, thereof 12,161 in 1941-1944, i.e. the years in which the extermination camp was in operation.
Belzec: 26,269 names with identified year and place of death, thereof 24,825 in the extermination camp period 1942/43.
Sobibór: 48,913 names with identified year and place of death, thereof 48,486 in the extermination camp period 1942/43.
Treblinka: 74,571 names with identified year and place of death, thereof 70,977 in the extermination camp period 1942/43.
Total number of named victims of all four extermination camps whose year and place of death have been established: 156,449.

Don't take my word for it, peruse the search engine yourselves. Link provided above.

I'm not sure to what extent the names of German Jews whose final destination was one of these places according to the German Federal Archives' database (http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html.de) are included in the above numbers (the GFA's database has 19,956 names for these final destinations, thereof 5,196 for Chelmno, 352 for Belzec, 6,440 for Sobibór and 7,968 for Treblinka). So I'll assume they are included.

156,449 names are just about 10 % of the people murdered at Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór and Treblinka, which means that much name-finding work remains to be done regarding these camps. But on the other hand, the number of names of individuals that "Revisionists" can prove to have been transported from these places to the "Russian East", in the sense of my challenge under http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... onist.html, is exactly zero.

156,449 names to zero names.

"Revisionism" sucks.
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Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past.
~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation).

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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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CWhite:

Looks good, don't you think Roberto?


My challenge to Revisionists is thus the following:

Please provide the name of at least one jew that you can prove to have been transited via Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór or Treblinka to what Korherr called the "Russian East", i.e. to a destination in the Reichskommissariat Ostland, the Reichskommissariat Ukraine or the Soviet territories under German military administration[/b]. By "transited" I mean that the person in question must have been taken to the respective camp (Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibór or Treblinka), then shipped from that camp to a certain destination in the Nazi-occupied territories of the Soviet Union as defined above, e.g. to Minsk, Riga, Kovno or Kiev.

One name, with proof.

Just one name.

Please note that this challenge pertains specifically to the - 1,419,467 - jews that I can prove actually set foot in Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor or Treblinka II, and that I can prove were killed and buried in the camps to which they were deported. (Though I have yet to muster the courage, integrity and character to accept the challenge to put up or shut up and prove my unsubstantiated allegations - like any honest / legitimate researcher would.)

Also note that my fellow exterminationist "Nessie" alleges that at least 75 "huge mass graves" have been located / proven to exist - with the utmost certainty via the scientific method - within the boundaries of these four camps, and that he can also prove - with the utmost certainty and using the scientific method - that these four camps contain the remains of at least - 1,796,000 - jews. (Though he has yet to muster the courage, integrity and character to accept the challenge to put up or shut up and prove his unsubstantiated allegations - like any honest / legitimate researcher would.)

Last note: This challenge was born out of an amenable conversation between my old friend Greg Gerdes and me on the threads - $1,000.00 REWARD FOR THE NAME OF JUST ONE GASSED jEW - in which I did not earn so-much-as one sinlge penny in reward money - not one single penny!


CWhite:

When are we going to see the change on your website?



What are you waiting for roberto?

What are you so afraid of?
D - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, Germany used "resettlement to the east" as a euphemism for transiting jews to the so-called "top secret" - PURE EXTERMINATION CAMPS - Yes. - or - No. - ?? - Nessie's answer: Yes.

E - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the so-called "pure extermination camps" were - THE END OF THE LINE - for virtually everyone transited to those camps - Yes. - or - No. - ?? - Nessie's answer: Yes.

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II camps - ?? - Nessie's answer: True.

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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Roberto shoots himself in the foot again.
The CODOH Moderator tells us the facts:
from: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11224
Notes to Roberto:
Oh Roberto, poor Roberto.
You continue to ignore responses to your questions that you simply do not like.
You continue to dodge numerous challenges in spite of them being very specific & on topic.
You make claims of censorship when what you have posted proves there has been no censorship. :lol:

Get with it.

Cheers, M1
and:
FYI:
I will be compiling a list of your dodges to make it easier for all to see.

Regards, M1
The massacre of Roberto Muehlenkamp continues. :lol:

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Re: Yet another CODOH Memory Hole Festival

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Lily wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:43 pm
Roberto shoots himself in the foot again.
The CODOH Moderator tells us the facts:
from: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11224
Notes to Roberto:
Oh Roberto, poor Roberto.
You continue to ignore responses to your questions that you simply do not like.
You continue to dodge numerous challenges in spite of them being very specific & on topic.
You make claims of censorship when what you have posted proves there has been no censorship. :lol:

Get with it.

Cheers, M1
and:
FYI:
I will be compiling a list of your dodges to make it easier for all to see.

Regards, M1
The massacre of Roberto Muehlenkamp continues. :lol:

"I will be compiling a list of your dodges to make it easier for all to see."


:lol:

Now that's going to hurt!

:lol:

Poor roberto - what was he thinking?
D - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, Germany used "resettlement to the east" as a euphemism for transiting jews to the so-called "top secret" - PURE EXTERMINATION CAMPS - Yes. - or - No. - ?? - Nessie's answer: Yes.

E - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the so-called "pure extermination camps" were - THE END OF THE LINE - for virtually everyone transited to those camps - Yes. - or - No. - ?? - Nessie's answer: Yes.

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II camps - ?? - Nessie's answer: True.

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