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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by Huntinger » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 am

StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:57 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:52 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:58 am
Well, it's rather pointless to get all excited over really bad songs.
I thought (((survivors))) was rather good. Perhaps the kindergartens should teach it to the kids.
Really? Why would you want to frighten children?
Perhaps children should be taught to be wary of liars.
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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by StephenP » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:10 am

Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:57 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:52 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:58 am
Well, it's rather pointless to get all excited over really bad songs.
I thought (((survivors))) was rather good. Perhaps the kindergartens should teach it to the kids.
Really? Why would you want to frighten children?
Perhaps children should be taught to be wary of liars.
Well, it's a bit harsh to call this Chabloz person a liar. Deluded might be better.

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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by Huntinger » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:23 am

StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:10 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:57 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:52 am


I thought (((survivors))) was rather good. Perhaps the kindergartens should teach it to the kids.
Really? Why would you want to frighten children?
Perhaps children should be taught to be wary of liars.
Well, it's a bit harsh to call this Chabloz person a liar. Deluded might be better.
It is not her I had in mind Stephen P.
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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by StephenP » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:29 am

Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:23 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:10 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:57 am


Really? Why would you want to frighten children?
Perhaps children should be taught to be wary of liars.
Well, it's a bit harsh to call this Chabloz person a liar. Deluded might be better.
It is not her I had in mind Stephen P.
That's who I thought of. She is deluded and like most deniers I've seen appear to be woefully ignorant of the history they say never happened.

In any case I am done for the evening.

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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by Huntinger » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:31 am

StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:29 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:23 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:10 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 am

Perhaps children should be taught to be wary of liars.
Well, it's a bit harsh to call this Chabloz person a liar. Deluded might be better.
It is not her I had in mind Stephen P.
That's who I thought of. She is deluded and like most deniers I've seen appear to be woefully ignorant of the history they say never happened.

In any case I am done for the evening.
I have found Jude to be more than woefully ignorant but people expedient with the truth.
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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by been-there » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:22 am

StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:57 am
Huntinger wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:52 am
StephenP wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:58 am
Well, it's rather pointless to get all excited over really bad songs.
I thought (((survivors))) was rather good. Perhaps the kindergartens should teach it to the kids.
Really? Why would you want to frighten children?
Wow! The disconnect from reality I find quite staggering.

Stephen P thinks showing photos and films of piles of skeletal corpses to school-children and teaching them a racist pseudo-history is ok but teaching them a satirical song exposing mind-manipulation, and a misinformation campaign would be too 'frightening' for them. :?

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As is being amply demonstrated by someone calling themself — apparently without any irony — Mr. Know-it-all on the Treblinka-evidence thread
"the truth is out there, but you have to want to know it."
This doesn't just effect what is now religiously and vaguely referred to as "THE Holocaust".
Regardless of what the subject is the vast majority of people are hard to reason with if they think they already "know" stuff on any given subject.
"One of the world's greatest problems is the impossibility of any person searching for the truth on any subject when they believe they already have it." --Dave Wilbur
Which I suggest is precisely why 'Jewish' organisations have managed to make it an integral part of children's school education to be taken to Auschwitz and/or forced as part of their school curriculum to assimilate a distorted, out-of-context, toxic, traumatising, misinformation programming into 'THE Holocaust' narrative. You get children when they are young and you mould their impressionable minds.
“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. This principle is, contempt prior to examination.” -- Rev. William H. Poole
Basically we have a society that forces young children to see film and photos of piles of emaciated corpses and huge suffering, but we don't tell them correctly the context nor how it was NOT unique to one ethnic group. Basically we were lied to and now we are expected to perpetuate the lie with the caveat that if anyone informs us or the children of the lie then we are conditioned to regard them as a 'wicked' person.
Ken Feinstein, a second generation family member, whose parents were Holocaust survivors and who grew up in Boston, Lincolnshire, told of how his school teacher, who also survived, insisted children as young as eight watched documentaries on the subject.

“When kids would look away from it she would yell at them: ‘You have no right to do that. I buried my family’. We must have been about seven or eight years old. How do you prepare children of this age for something like that? They just showed it to us and kind of traumatised us. It was definitely meant to shock us into never forgetting,” said Feinstein.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ted-trauma
'Labyrinth of Lies' director Giulio Ricciarelli inadvertently confessed how he also was psychological traumatised as an eight year old child by being confronted with photos of WW2 corpses presented as of Auschwitz:

There’s a deeper psychological explanation. When I was eight, somebody brought pictures from Auschwitz to school. You already have a worldview by the time you’re eight, and I was devastated. I was destroyed. I could not believe it. The whole world kind of crumbled, because I couldn’t match everything I thought about the world to these pictures.

Labyrinth of Lies by Giulio Ricciarelli
http://earthwize.org/wordpress/director ... cciarelli/
This is NOT a new situation.
Nor is the unreliability of the press. That has been the case as soon as newspapers became centralised large concerns.
"The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public [news]papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper."
-- Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13th, 1785.
"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day."
--Thomas Jeffersonto John Norvell, 1807
The internet is now THE means of sharing information without censorship or filters.
Which is why there are moves underway to control net nuetrality.

Which is why the Jewish State of Israel has paid operatives who's task is to troll and spread 'hasbara' misinformation on social media, chatrooms, internet discussion forums, wikipedia, etc.
"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth,
they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
-- Anonymous

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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by StephenP » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:51 am

Hasbara?
Been-there, you really need to learn less is more. Pointless walls of text are boring.

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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by Huntinger » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:17 am

StephenP wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:51 am
Hasbara?
Been-there, you really need to learn less is more. Pointless walls of text are boring.
Stephen we know you are Jude, and we think you are boring. Please go and have another bar miztvah or something constructive.
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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by been-there » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:15 am

StephenP wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:51 am
Hasbara?
Been-there, you really need to learn less is more. Pointless walls of text are boring.
There was a point.

A very simple one. How interesting and revealing that you couldn't comprehend it.

Let me again try to explain it to you.

You thought it was “rather pointless” to make a fuss over what you considered “really bad songs”.
Someone replied saying they thought 'survivors' was rather good and suggested that perhaps the kindergartens should teach it to kids.

See and hear Alison performing that song here and here

You replied “Really? Why would you want to frighten children?”

Focus now.
Here comes the extremely simple 'point' which you couldn't comprehend previously.
I opined that YOU are showing a disconnect from reality: one that I find quite staggering.
Because YOU think showing necro-pornographic photos and films of piles of skeletal corpses to school-children and teaching them a racist pseudo-history is ok.

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...and yet YOU simultaneously believe that instead teaching them a satirical song exposing mind-manipulation, a scam and a misinformation campaign would be too 'frightening' for them. :?

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Er... So, did any of that get through this time?
Do you see 'the point' now?

What follows is just more detail with examples of how YOUR stupid, uncaring and toxic attitude plays out in the lives of children. These examples show how YOUR disconnect from reality is part of the problem that allows Jewish organisations to impact the lives of millions of children "frightening" and traumatising them.

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'Jewish' organisations don't care at all whether they "frighten” children.
They have managed to make it an integral part of children's school education to be taken to Auschwitz and/or forced as part of their school curriculum to assimilate a distorted, out-of-context, horrifying, traumatising, hatred-inducing misinformation programming into 'THE Holocaust' narrative. You get children when they are young and you mould their impressionable minds.

Basically we have a society that forces young children to see film and photos of piles of emaciated corpses and huge suffering, but we don't tell them correctly the context nor how it was NOT unique to one ethnic group. Basically we were lied to and now we are expected to perpetuate the lie with the caveat that if anyone informs us or the children of the lie then we are conditioned to regard them as a 'wicked' person.
Ken Feinstein, a second generation family member, whose parents were Holocaust survivors and who grew up in Boston, Lincolnshire, told of how his school teacher, who also survived, insisted children as young as eight watched documentaries on the subject.
“When kids would look away from it she would yell at them: ‘You have no right to do that. I buried my family’.
We must have been about seven or eight years old. How do you prepare children of this age for something like that?
They just showed it to us and kind of traumatised us. It was definitely meant to shock us into never forgetting,”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ted-trauma

'Labyrinth of Lies' director Giulio Ricciarelli inadvertently confessed how he also was psychological traumatised as an eight year old child by being confronted with photos of WW2 corpses presented as of Auschwitz:
There’s a deeper psychological explanation.
When I was eight, somebody brought pictures from Auschwitz to school.
You already have a worldview by the time you’re eight, and I was devastated.
I was destroyed. I could not believe it.
The whole world kind of crumbled, because I couldn’t match everything I thought about the world to these pictures.
Labyrinth of Lies by Giulio Ricciarelli.
http://earthwize.org/wordpress/director ... cciarelli/
"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth,
they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
-- Anonymous

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Re: Alison Chabloz

Post by StephenP » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:29 am

Huntinger wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:17 am
StephenP wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:51 am
Hasbara?
Been-there, you really need to learn less is more. Pointless walls of text are boring.
Stephen we know you are Jude, and we think you are boring. Please go and have another bar miztvah or something constructive.
Am I? I'm sure that knowledge will be deeply disconcerting to my Southern Baptist mother and father....not to mention my still practicing brother and sister. And my dearly departed grandparents who were Bible thumping Baptists until the day they died.

You are amusing in that your mind automatically went there. It certainly says more about you than it does me.

Actually I go back and forth between feeling amused and feeling sorry for you. You are slightly better spoken than the silly jackasses who babble about Muslims, Catholics, Jews, liberals and such. I like to call them dress up Nazis. Is that you? Do you think you are heir to something pure and wonderful? Or are you simply deluded in pining over something that never was? It's the latter.

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