Did "Judea" declare nuclear war on Germany August 2 1939?

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Did "Judea" declare nuclear war on Germany August 2 1939?

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This "Einstein Letter" came up in some "75 year Hiroshima anniversary" discussion:

> http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/psf/box5/a64a01.html

The Letter contains nothing less than the successful order to the US president to build the ultimate genocide weapon but also contains a "target list" against whom to use it with just one name in it: "Germany"...

This is dated before the start of the second world war. What is interesting is the offer in the letter that private "investors" would pay the immense cost of building that anti german genocide weapon. Just who paid for the US Nuke development? The project was secret so did some "Sheldon Adelson" type pay the billion dollar bill? Who was the "Sheldon" of the 1930s who could pay the development bill?

The letter was given to FDR by the like vice president of lehman brothers (Alexander Sachs an early Zionist) who knew him personally and fdr did exactly what was asked and startet the manhattan project.

Given this mortal nuclear very real threat of extermination did the german government know of this in 1939?

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Intenso wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:28 am
Given this mortal nuclear very real threat of extermination did the german government know of this in 1939?
On Aug. 2, 1939, Jude Einstein (one stone) signed a letter addressed to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, warning that the Reich might be developing nuclear weapons. Einstein urged the United States to stockpile uranium ore and begin work on its own atomic weapons.

Einstein was correct, the Reich had the top nuclear scientists, though the policy on Semites meant that some fled to the US such as Jude Szilard, Teller (Hungary) and Fermi who married jΓΌdin. The US had more resources and luck it would seem, especially with the use of pure graphite as a neutron moderator which worked. The Germans were still using Deuterium which caused difficulty.

Had Heisenberg and others figured out that pure graphite was a great moderator of fast moving neutrons it is highly likely that the war Criminals would be Churchill, Stalin, MacArthur and Patton.

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If the Soviet advance had been halted and the D-day invasion had failed, where do you think the first atomic bombs would have been dropped? Nagasaki or Berlin?

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Turnagain wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:00 am
If the Soviet advance had been halted and the D-day invasion had failed, where do you think the first atomic bombs would have been dropped? Nagasaki or Berlin?
I am thinking Moscow. However, speculation or "what if", is a Nessyism (flipperism); what is certain is that if the Reich had developed the bomb first, St Basils Cathedral in Red Square would no longer be with us, nor Whitehall.

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The question is, if Germany had still been resisting at the time the bomb became operational, where do you think it would have been dropped?

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Turnagain wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:30 am
The question is, if Germany had still been resisting at the time the bomb became operational, where do you think it would have been dropped?
Berlin. I believe the original target changed to Japan after the Reich capitulation.

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The original poster raises a great question but on balance I don't think that the "Jewish Physics" idea has a lot of merit.

The Jewish physicist Leo Szilard who had exiled himself from Nazi Germany to London was the one who postulated the fission chain reaction circa 1933 while observing traffic signals in London.

In 1938, the German chemist Otto Hahn discovered atomic fission when uranium was bombarded with neutrons from a radioactive source. Chemical analysis of the remaining material determined that the sample contained fission products. While this was an astounding historical discovery because it was known that atomic (fission) or thermonuclear (fusion) processes instead of chemical ones were the sources of energy driving the cosmos, the discovery was really only significant to physicists and other specialists.

So Jews like Szilard who had been dismissed from German universities came up with the idea that Hitler was going to take over the world in pure Hollywood fashion with the Godlike power of atomic energy.

:roll:

Szilard wanted to sound the alarm about the discovery of fission but he was not well known with the powers-that-be in Washington. So he beseeched the celebrity Jewish physicist Albert Einstein to provide an introduction to the American political establishment.

Einstein was living out on Long Island, NY and because Szilard did not drive he enlisted the Hungarian Jewish physicist Edward Teller to drive him out there by motorcar. Teller provides us with the account of the famous but secret Einstein letter.

FDR and his entourage were only mildly interested in the matter before the war, and they turned the matter of atomic energy over to the U.S. Navy and the matter all but died.

After war came, however, the U.S. Congress secretly voted a blank check of unlimited funding for a superweapon (later known as the atomic bomb) through a secret project with a coded nomenclature called the Manhattan Engineer District, from early work on atomic energy done at Columbia University. A crucial breakthrough that the Germans never achieved was Enrico Fermi's discovery at the University of Chicago in 1942 of controlled nuclear fission─the first atomic pile.

The U.S. Army took over the Manhattan Project and assigned General Leslie R. Groves─the civil engineer who built the Pentagon in 1942─to develop the atomic bomb with an eye towards winning the war, then thinking that the Germans were already working on an atomic bomb. (They weren't.)

General Groves book is very interesting and I would highly recommend it. Because the Manhattan Project was so daunting, however, Groves made a big mistake in not anticipating that the Soviets would (with benefit of Jewish espionage) be able to duplicate this achievement in only four years (1949) instead of the twenty that he had estimated.

So, yes, I would agree that Jews wanted a superweapon to fight Nazis with─but this would not have gone very far without the U.S. Army, and the country now at war with comparatively unlimited resources.

According to Albert Speer and David Irving, Hitler was very interested in atomic science before the war and heavily funded this─but when the war came, the Germans had to be very judicious with what research they could support.

Research on rockets, for example, were relegated to lower priority upon the outbreak of war in 1939, in favor of weapons that could be completed in time to be useful to the current war-effort. In spite of a crash program in the latter part of the war, this doomed promising projects to failure, like for example the A4 rocket (later V2 missile), according to the PeenemΓΌnde project director, General Walter Dornberger.

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