Treblinka III

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TREBLINKA III
The alleged Vernichtungslager Treblinka II. Wiki says this:
The camp operated between 23 July 1942 and 19 October 1943 as part of Operation Reinhard, the deadliest phase of the Final Solution. During this time, it is estimated that between 700,000 and 900,000 Jews were killed in its gas chambers.
There is detail about the building of the camp- Built... April 1942 – July 1942. The builders were:
Richard Thomalla (death camp)
Erwin Lambert (gas chambers)
Christian Wirth..Schönbronn Company, Leipzig
Schmidt–Münstermann, Warsaw branch
It was known that a Konzentrationslager existed in late 1941 as mentioned by deathcamps.org. The Treblinka labour camp (known as Treblinka I) was established in late 1941. It was located around 2 km south of the extermination camp Treblinka II. Today the large gravel pit of this forced labour camp is still visible. Thousands of Poles (Jews and non-Jews) were forced to dig in the mine.
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On that note we will not be misled by those individuals. There is a timeline discrepancy indicated by the following Intelligence report, now found in the CIA reading room, declassified. This is interesting, being ratified or received on October 1944; it mentions all of the known Konzentrationslager and their purpose.
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The discussion here is on Treblinka. One would assume that there were no exterminations at Treblinka at least until the Extermination Camp or Vernichtungslager was built in Autumn (northern hemisphere) 1942. The report makes a distinction between extermination and annihilation: exterminate is to kill all of a population, usually deliberate while annihilate is to reduce to nothing, to destroy, to eradicate.

The intelligence report above mentions specifically that Treblinka was a camp to exterminate Juden in September 1941, specifically camp three. It states:
TREBLINKA
Location
80 Km. NE of WARSCHAU
2/22
September 1941: reported as consisting of 3 camps.:
  • I "punitive camp for forced labour.
  • II KL
  • IIIExtermination camp for Jews.
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No doubt the first camp is the quarry, Treblinka II is a Konzentrationslager only, perhaps a Customs Transit camp, while the extermination camp was somewhere else in the area known as Treblinka III. Perhaps this was another extermination camp existing in the area before the one recognized as the "official narrative" of an AR camp was built.

This was recorded here as exterminating Juden a year before it was supposed to exist.

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It has been suggested that this report received in October 1944 made a typo error on the date; that 1941 should be 1942.
However, that is unlikely as everything else is coherent. It is stated that three Treblinka camps existed with the third being an extermination centre. A typo error would just be a date not the added information in that time period. According to the narrative,on 23 July 1942 Treblinka II officially opened to take Juden to their Himmelstraße through deception, being cleverly disguised as a transit facility. (23 July 1942 – October 1943 operational). Yet the report of Sept 1941 mentions a Konzentrationslager TII. Why build another one?

The report clearly states that TI was an arbeitslager, which fits in well with the labor camp, a rock quarry for all kinds of offenders; naughty boys who throw rocks at the nice SS men looking after their towns, bootlegging and so on. TII is described as a Konzentrationslager. TIII is some other place and not Malkinia. I think it never existed but a part of der Jootrix.

An example of Jootrix in relation to TII is a newspaper article, which appeared in the Polish Daily on the 11 July 1942,
that speaks of exterminations at a place called Treblinka. This was 14 days prior to the official TII extermination camp opening it doors welcoming Juden from all over Poland.
The newspaper article said:
‘…All in all 2,500 people were murdered this night, while the remaining 25,000 people were brought to camps in Belzec and Tremblinka. In Izbica Kujawska 8,000 individuals were driven away in an unknown direction. In Belzec and Tremblinka the people are reportedly killed with poison gas.’
Dr Terry calls this a "Brazen forgery". (He should know all about forgeries if Deathcamps.org are to be believed :D )

There is a deliberate hall of smoke and mirrors with claims of the arbeitslager opening in December, 41 while other state June. However, the US intelligence report Sept 1941 clearly states that TI was happy keeping people occupied with health giving labor before September. Perhaps the report above was referring to this mysterious TIII and not the extermination TII that did not come into operation until 23 July. If so what happened to the other TII? This TII was a Konzentrationslager.

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That shows the weakness of the documentary evidence. That's why I beat the drum for an accounting for the question, "How was it done?". This is what the eyewitnesses claimed. Is that possible? in most cases, no it isn't physically possible. Thus we have a violation of the first rule of evidence. If it wasn't possible then it didn't happen. Finito. End of story.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:13 am
That shows the weakness of the documentary evidence. That's why I beat the drum for an accounting for the question, "How was it done?". This is what the eyewitnesses claimed. Is that possible? in most cases, no it isn't physically possible. Thus we have a violation of the first rule of evidence. If it wasn't possible then it didn't happen. Finito. End of story.
I have always doubted the existence of the current TII; the revolt and everything else is a mere duplication of the Sobibor story. Treblinka Revolt was 2 August 1943 while the Sobibor revolt was 14th October of the same year. That aside, I am confident that the US Intelligence reported the existed of Malkinia, TI, TII and TIII in Sept 1943. This makes the current discussions on Treblinka II invalid as this camp is a construct of non existence. There is a reality but the current one being discussed is not it.

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Huntinger wrote:
There is a reality but the current one being discussed is not it.
The entire narrative of the holyhoax has no basis in reality.

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Turnagain wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:17 am
Huntinger wrote:
There is a reality but the current one being discussed is not it.
The entire narrative of the holyhoax has no basis in reality.
Only in the mind of a paranoid, antisemitic, conspiracy theorist, racist nut job.

Does that sound like anyone familiar ? :D

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:13 am
That shows the weakness of the documentary evidence. That's why I beat the drum for an accounting for the question, "How was it done?". This is what the eyewitnesses claimed. Is that possible? in most cases, no it isn't physically possible. Thus we have a violation of the first rule of evidence. If it wasn't possible then it didn't happen. Finito. End of story.
You haven’t proven anything to be physically impossible . On the contrary you have just posted your same illogical and flawed arguments for years whilst ignoring when people have pointed out where you were wrong and then you respond by posting the same claims again.

*waits for the same predictable reply from Turnagain*

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Wolf123 wrote:
You haven’t proven anything to be physically impossible .
Really? If that's the case why don't you tell us how to pump the air out of hermetically sealed brick building since that's what the hoaxers claim happened?

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Turnagain wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:50 am
Wolf123 wrote:
You haven’t proven anything to be physically impossible .
Really? If that's the case why don't you tell us how to pump the air out of hermetically sealed brick building since that's what the hoaxers claim happened?
Tel me this , tell me that .Don’t be so stupid , I ain’t going to entertain your claims matey gumdrops.

YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD SOOOOOOO MANY TIMES, but you do not listen because anything that refutes your claims you just ignore because you’re an antisemite and a crank.

Shove your antisemitic conspiracy theories where the sun doesn’t shine turnipbrain matey gumdrops .

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Wolf123 wrote:
Shove your antisemitic conspiracy theories where the sun doesn’t shine turnipbrain matey gumdrops .
Uh-huh.

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