Treblinka - transit camp or extermination camp?

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Treblinka - transit camp or extermination camp?

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Turnagain recently posted:
The most reasonable and likely scenario is the effing gas chambers didn't exist. The same goes for the giant mass graves, the method of exhumation and the magic Jew barbeque. As Mattogno et al. have posited, Treblinka was a transit camp not an extermination facility.
So Turnagain believes the following:

1. Gas chambers more than likely never existed at Treblinka.

2. Treblinka was a transit camp, not an extermination camp.

Can Turnagain or anyone else who believes those two claims provide evidence to support them?

Kindest regards,

Charlie
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Enigma Charlie wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:35 am
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Kindest regards before people delve into this scenario, please give the true evidence that TII existed as opposed to say Malkinia.
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Enigma Charlie wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:35 am
Turnagain recently posted:
The most reasonable and likely scenario is the effing gas chambers didn't exist. The same goes for the giant mass graves, the method of exhumation and the magic Jew barbeque. As Mattogno et al. have posited, Treblinka was a transit camp not an extermination facility.
So Turnagain believes the following:

1. Gas chambers more than likely never existed at Treblinka.

2. Treblinka was a transit camp, not an extermination camp.

Can Turnagain or anyone else who believes those two claims provide evidence to support them?

Your kindest regards,

Charlie
1. Gas/vacuum chambers didn't exist at Treblinka.

2. The mass graves described by the eyewitnesses were beyond the capabilities of the equipment available at Treblinka. The graves did NOT exist.

3. The method of exhuming the bodies with a clamshell equipped dragline (excavator) would have produced very few if any whole bodies to be disposed of on the magic Jew barbeque.

4. Cremation is an endothermic reaction. The magic Jew barbeque described an exothermic reaction. It didn't happen.

Treblinka was NOT a murder facility therefore it served another purpose. From the evidence, most likely a transit camp.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:29 am
1. Gas/vacuum chambers didn't exist at Treblinka.
How do you know that for a fact?

Prove it.
2. The mass graves described by the eyewitnesses were beyond the capabilities of the equipment available at Treblinka. The graves did NOT exist.
How do you know? Have you been to the area where it was and carried out an investigation?
3. The method of exhuming the bodies with a clamshell equipped dragline (excavator) would have produced very few if any whole bodies to be disposed of on the magic Jew barbeque.
How do you know which equipment was used?
4. Cremation is an endothermic reaction. The magic Jew barbeque described an exothermic reaction. It didn't happen.
Explain what part of the cremation process could not have happened.
Treblinka was NOT a murder facility therefore it served another purpose. From the evidence, most likely a transit camp.
Explain why he Nazis who ran the camp and the guards who helped run the camp never once argued it was a transit camp.

Explain where the Jews went after they were sent to Treblinka.

What evidence is there that it was a transit camp?

Stop the rambling and show your proof for your claims.

Kindest regards,

Charlie
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Turnagain, all you have to do is show with evidence and reliable sources where the Jews went after they arrived at Treblinka.

Then, and only then, will people believe what you post. Until then you have nothing but your own guesses and conclusions with no proof whatsoever to support them.

Kindest regards,

Charlie

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:29 am
1. Gas/vacuum chambers didn't exist at Treblinka.
How do you know that for a fact?

Prove it.
The alleged gas/vacuum chambers were supposedly built with conventional building materials. No building of conventional construction can withstand either a vacuum or pressurization. The pressure differential will cause either an implosion or an explosion.
2. The mass graves described by the eyewitnesses were beyond the capabilities of the equipment available at Treblinka. The graves did NOT exist.
How do you know? Have you been to the area where it was and carried out an investigation?
Go to the ARC site for photos of the dragline supposedly used to dig the graves. In one photo there's an image of two men riding the clamshell. Men of that age cohort averaged 5' 8" so the length of the boom can be measured fairly accurately at ~35 feet. Wiernik described the graves as being 10X25X50 meters. Rajchman described them as being 12X30X50 meters. Both the Wiernik and the Laponder models of Treblinka show single cone stockpiles of excavated material. The cubic content for Wiernik's graves is 250 cubic meters per meter of grave. Add to that a gain of 12% for excavating sandy soil. Total 280 cubic meters per meter. The angle of repose for sand is 45 degrees. Therefore the single cone stockpile would have to be 16.7 meters high. That's 55 (54.88) feet high. You can reduce that a bit by using one end of the grave for stockpile or, in Wiernik's model, using three sides of a grave in the case of one grave.

A dragline with a 35 foot boom less at least 8 feet for the bucket and draw works can't reach anywhere near a maximum of 55 feet for the stockpile. It's even more ridiculous for Rajchman's graves. I can give you varying heights for different stockpiling parameters but nothing will allow the M&H model B dragline shown in the photos to both dig and stockpile the ex from the graves. What the witnesses claim is impossible. Do you understand that?
3. The method of exhuming the bodies with a clamshell equipped dragline (excavator) would have produced very few if any whole bodies to be disposed of on the magic Jew barbeque.
How do you know which equipment was used?
Wiernik and Rajchman said so.
4. Cremation is an endothermic reaction. The magic Jew barbeque described an exothermic reaction. It didn't happen.
Explain what part of the cremation process could not have happened.
I just DID explain it, you cretin.
Treblinka was NOT a murder facility therefore it served another purpose. From the evidence, most likely a transit camp.
Explain why he Nazis who ran the camp and the guards who helped run the camp never once argued it was a transit camp.

Explain where the Jews went after they were sent to Treblinka.

What evidence is there that it was a transit camp?

Stop the rambling and show your proof for your claims.

Kindest regards,

Charlie
Explain the gas/vacuum chambers, the graves, the exhumations and the cremations. If you can't, Treblinka wasn't a murder facility.

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Due to Turnagain’s personal abuse on another thread he has been reported and put on ignore.

If anyone else can give his thoughts on Treblinka then I’ll gladly respond.

Kindest regards,

Charlie

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Enigma Charley wrote:
Due to Turnagain’s personal abuse on another thread he has been reported and put on ignore.
LOL! I was giving examples of the type of question that Charley had just asked. Well, little Charley had just got his arse handed to him so was desperately looking for an "out". Kind of a half-assed excuse but when you're backed into a corner, what can you do? Little Charley got a bit more than he bargained for and needed an excuse to pull stakes. CYA, Charley, don't let the door...etc.

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Don't forget to tell Charlie about the 11 witnesses who claimed the gas chambers were hermetically sealed, even though you don't know who they are and even though the gas chambers were not hermetically sealed ( but we'll erm...cough....forget about that for now ). Cheers

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Lupus Rothstein wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:05 pm
Don't forget to tell Charlie about the 11 witnesses who claimed the gas chambers were hermetically sealed, even though you don't know who they are and even though the gas chambers were not hermetically sealed ( but we'll erm...cough....forget about that for now ). Cheers
You can start with Bomba, Rosenberg, Wiernik, Rajchman, and Leleko just for openers, Lupus. That will get you started and I'll get around to digging up the other names when I get around to it.

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