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Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:15 pm
If denial was correct, the area shown below, by the end of 1943, would have been home to millions of Jews from all over Europe, from the Netherlands to Greece.

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This thread is now 100 pages long and so far, nothing. Common sense tells normal people, that when they cannot evidence their claims, their claims are wrong.
All of this was eventually behind the Iron Curtain with 7 million in a Commission to sift through, hide and alter documents.
There was insignificant population loss in the area. See Generalbezirk Weißruthenien deportees


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Re: Where did they go

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Trainloads of deportees left T-II and nobody was killed at Sobibor. Finito. End of story.

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Huntinger wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:23 pm
Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:15 pm
If denial was correct, the area shown below, by the end of 1943, would have been home to millions of Jews from all over Europe, from the Netherlands to Greece.

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This thread is now 100 pages long and so far, nothing. Common sense tells normal people, that when they cannot evidence their claims, their claims are wrong.
All of this was eventually behind the Iron Curtain with 7 million in a Commission to sift through, hide and alter documents.
There was insignificant population loss in the area. See Generalbezirk Weißruthenien deportees
If millions of Jews had been resettled there in 1943, it would have left a lot of evidence in 1943, with reports from the now massive ghettos and camps. Then in 1944-5, the Soviets would have been liberating millions of Jews, which would have also left lots of evidence at that time of it happening.

The SU collapsed in 1992 and its attempt to hoax Katyn had already failed. Your suggestion that even now, the much larger hoax of hiding millions of Jews continues is extraordinary and that needs extraordinary evidencing. You have none.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:24 pm
Trainloads of deportees left T-II and nobody was killed at Sobibor. Finito. End of story.
Repeatedly saying that does not make it true. You need evidence of c850,00 leaving TII and c200,000 leaving Sobibor and where they were subsequently accommodated.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

Repeatedly saying that does not make it true. You need evidence of c850,00 leaving TII and c200,000 leaving Sobibor and where they were subsequently accommodated.
This thread is not how people were transported through the customs or how they reached their destinations from the customs but what happened to the people in general once through.


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Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:31 pm
If millions of Jews had been resettled there in 1943, it would have left a lot of evidence in 1943, with reports from the now massive ghettos and camps. Then in 1944-5, the Soviets would have been liberating millions of Jews, which would have also left lots of evidence at that time of it happening.

The SU collapsed in 1992 and its attempt to hoax Katyn had already failed. Your suggestion that even now, the much larger hoax of hiding millions of Jews continues is extraordinary and that needs extraordinary evidencing. You have none.
It seems they were not resettled but left the ghettos according to work needs, probably living on site; this was implied in the document given above by the Kommissar Ostland. How many this was is unclear at this stage but worthy of discussion.

Katyn is just one incident which was resolved some 45 years later, there are a host of other atrocities, some known all perpetrated by the Soviets. There was evidence of Soviets releasing some juden, in the population transfers at the border post war. People in the West only know what the Soviets and now the Russian Federation wish them to know; the files are now locked.

It was known only recently that the Soviets deported en masse millions of juden to Siberia, over half died. There is no reason to think this did not happen immediately post war as they were trying to frame the Reich; this is their modus operandi. Many thousand of other juden did escape Soviet enslavement through the Balkans and neighbouring countries.


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Claiming that people were killed with electric masturbation machines and vacuum chambers doesn't make it true.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:33 pm
Claiming that people were killed with electric masturbation machines and vacuum chambers doesn't make it true.
These were claimed for some konzentrationslager in the General Government; I am sure there were similar horror claims for Ostland and Ukraine. At the moment due to huge NKVD slaughter of juden in various places prior to Barbarossa, it is clear that the Soviets and Now Russian Federation are covering up those crimes and blaming it on the Reich. I am also convinced some naughty Reich boys did some dastardly deeds without authorization as well.

If there is some knowledge of the area of Russian East please tell us. We are not stuck in the mud of the Ostland-Ukraine western border where the Customs facility centres were.


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Huntinger wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:42 pm
Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

Repeatedly saying that does not make it true. You need evidence of c850,00 leaving TII and c200,000 leaving Sobibor and where they were subsequently accommodated.
This thread is not how people were transported through the customs or how they reached their destinations from the customs but what happened to the people in general once through.
So why do you not post your evidence of millions of Jews living in Ostland and the RKU in 1943? Is it because there is no evidence?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Where did they go

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:33 pm
Claiming that people were killed with electric masturbation machines and vacuum chambers doesn't make it true.
Correct, those claims are false, because there is no corroborating credible evidence, it was hearsay. Now, on topic, where is the eye witness, physical and documentary evidence of millions of Jews living in Ostland and the RKU in 1943?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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