Where did they go

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Quit trying to bullshit us, Nessie. Treblinka wasn't an extermination facility so your claim of "logical fallacies" is just your made up bullshit.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:41 pm
Quit trying to bullshit us, Nessie. Treblinka wasn't an extermination facility so your claim of "logical fallacies" is just your made up bullshit.
You don't use evidence to prove what happened inside TII. You use a series of arguments where you interpret some witness evidence in a way to conclude that they lied and gassings etc could not have happened because they way they described it could not have worked. You are using the argument from incredulity. You do not believe it was possible, therefore it did not happen. That is a logical fallacy.

You then lie about the physical evidence found at the camp, claiming it is bogus, without producing any evidence to back you up. The only way for you to prove that there are no areas of disturbed ground and cremated remains would be to do a physical examination of the site.

You then demand we believe c850,000 people left TII, when at best, only 6500-8000 can be proved to have left the camp. That small number is consistent with some arrivals being selected for skills the Nazis needed.

You are so wedded to your beliefs that it does not matter how often the logical flaws are explained, you keep on using them.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Uh-huh, and you try to use a series of made up bullshit that Treblinka was an extermination facility. Give it a rest.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:44 pm
Uh-huh, and you try to use a series of made up bullshit that Treblinka was an extermination facility. Give it a rest.
List of evidence here;

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3808

Your claim that I have made all of that up is bullshit. Witnesses, documents, physical evidence, all pointing to TII being a death camp and none to it being a transit camp.

You cannot provide any evidence at all to show where the c850,000 who arrived at TII ended up, if they were not killed there. :roll:
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:59 pm

You cannot provide any evidence at all to show where the c850,000 who arrived at TII ended up, if they were not killed there. :roll:
This thread is not about Treblinka. If you find no evidence where people ended up which is the purpose of this thread then shut it. If for instance, people talk about the deportations to Minsk then talk about that and their fate, talk about the return to the Reich for some people. To continue to talk of Treblinka is trolling, especially considering you have nothing else to to add.


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Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:42 am
You suggested the Ostland and RKU, but that is too vague. Show the places where the Jews in Nazi custody were being kept.
It may be vague but also correct. The Reichskommissariat was a very temporary state of affairs with many reports of atrocities occurring for political reason but very little in the way of normality.

The Reichs Commissar for Eastland decreed. 13 August, 1941

a. Jews are to be cleaned out from the countryside.
d. Jews are to be concentrated, as much as feasible, in cities or in sections of large cities,
whose population is already predominantly Jewish. Ghettos are to be established there,
and the Jews are to be prohibited from leaving these Ghettos. In the Ghettos they are to
be given only as much food as the rest of the population can do without, but no more
than suffices for scanty nourishment of the Ghetto inmates.

(this fits in with the perception of Juden being harbingers of disease and to be isolated from humanity)

e. Jews, capable of working, are to be drafted for forced labor according to the need for
work. The economic interests of natives worthy of assistance must not be interfered
with by Jewish forced labor. Forced labor can be performed in working parties outside
the Ghettos or in the Ghettos, or, where Ghettos are not yet established; also
individually outside (i.e., in the workshop of the Jew).

I. a. For the time being only those Jews will be subject to these directives who are citizens of the
German Reich, the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, of the former Republics of Poland, Lithuania,
Latvia, Estonia, of the USSR or of its component states, or stateless Jews.
b. Other Jews of foreign nationality, others of mixed blood and spouses of Jews who are not ready to
share the fate of their Jewish spouses are to be denied permission to leave the area of the
Reichskommissariat Ostland because it is a military area.

The last statement implies that Juden came from the Reich, Czechoslovakia, Poland and the Baltic states. Unless rescinded this would enable people to arrive and work out side the ghettos.


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Huntinger wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:17 pm
Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:59 pm

You cannot provide any evidence at all to show where the c850,000 who arrived at TII ended up, if they were not killed there. :roll:
...To continue to talk of Treblinka is trolling, especially considering you have nothing else to to add.
Plus he has no evidence to show the c850,000 who arrived at TII ALL ended up in the ground at T2. As is maintained.
They didn’t. And that is something that has been and still can be empirically verified.
Therefore the natural conclusion for any honest, intelligent person not in the grip of a delusional belief system,
is that they went somewhere else other than to their deaths and mass-graves at T2.
Obviously.
Otherwise they would ALL still be there, precisely as the fictitious H-narrative insists all persons must believe, or be persecuted with hateful epithets such as ‘denier’, ‘anti-semite’, ‘nazi’, etc., etc.

Most people can be excused for their ignorance of these facts.
But this person is knowingly peddling an anti-intelligence creed of hate and — ironically — one that is profoundly racist against all Germans alive in the 1940’s.

So, may I again suggest you desist from wasting your time on his hate-based absurdities with further responses, Hunt.
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Sell your made up bullshit down the street, Nessie. Or, take it back to holyhoax la-la land.

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Nessie wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:27 pm
Your moaning would be more convincing if you accepted that it is Turnagain who only wants to discuss TII and I reply to him.
If you wish to carry on as you are doing, it will best be left to Depth Check. Your call.


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Re: Where did they go

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Since the claims about Treblinka are bullshit, so is the rest of your sorry tale.

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