Turnagain wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:54 pm
... as there is no link to the primary evidence of the original documents.
Precisely. There is NO documentary evidence that the deportees were fed, clothed or sheltered. Why, then, do you demand that revisionists produce such documentary evidence?
I am not demanding that you provide documentary evidence that people were accommodated, fed and clothed at the camps you say they were sent to.
All you need to do is show that camp was big enough to be able to accommodate the people you claim were sent to it. So, for example, if you claimed 50,000 were sent too Budzyn, I would point out that it could only accommodate 3000.
The witness and documentary evidence that Eric Hunt and Mattogno provided is sufficient to prove transports from TII to Majdanek. The Majdank museum evidence is sufficient to show that the camp was big enough to have been able to feed, clothe and accommodate those people.
There is NO documentary evidence for the maintenance of any of the deportees. Nessie is blowing smoke and horse frocky. See his above quote.
I am asking for either or witness and documentary evidence to prove the TRANSPORTS.
I am asking for evidence, secondary will do, to show the size of the camp to prove it could ACCOMMODATE the people you claim were sent there.
To prove that c840,000 people were transported from TII to other camps, you need to provide similar evidence for each camp. You need a sample of witnesses, documents and to show the camp could accommodate those people.
There is proof that an unknown number of people were transited through T-II to at least a dozen different camps.
No, there is proof that 2-3,000 were sent to Majdanek and there was also likely a transport to Budzyn, which sonce it could only accommodate 3,000 people, will have been in the hundreds at the most.
The USHMM records merely list, out of order, the camps various witnesses to being at Treblinka were also at. All but one list Majdanek as one of the other camps they were at and in their testimony, they sya they went from TII to Majdanek.
How do you KNOW that unknown number wasn't ~850,000? How do you KNOW those are the only camps where deportees were sent? It's up to YOU to prove that all 850,000 deportees weren't transited through T-II.
There is no evidence that anyone else, other than the 2-3,000, left TII. There is no unknown number of people transported back out of TII. There is only the 2-3,000, the vast majority of whom were sent to Majdanek.
Since it is your claim that the others were transported back out, it is up to you to evidence that claim.
No, it is evidence 2-3,000 transited through TII.
No, it's PROVEN that an unknown number of deportees transited through T-II.
No, it is PROVEN that 2-3,000 left to Majdanek and probably Budzyn.
There are two documents found by Mattogno, one document from the USHMM discovered by Heliotis and the statements of the deportees themselves. There is NO documentary evidence for their maintenance. That is EVIDENCE that as many as 850,000 deportees transited through T-II. If you have PROOF that only 2,000-3,000 transited through T-II then let's see it.
There is only evidence to PROVE 2-3,000 were transitted through TII. There is no evidence to prove c850,000 were transitted through the camp. There is evidence to PROVE trains arrived full of people and either left empty or only containing goods.
You have no evidence at all that trains left TII full of people on a regular basis.
I am demanding witnesses and preferably documents to prove an arrival from TII and evidence that place could have accommodated that number of people.
The witnesses from the USC film archive claim to have been sent to Auschwitz, Budzyn and Majdanek. The record from the USHMM lists over a dozen different camps where deportees were sent. That's where they were sent so why the hell are you demanding to know if those camps could have accommodated them?
The tally of people on the transports described by those witnesses is 2-3,000 and they say they went first either to Majdanek or Budzyn. Those two camps at most could accommodate c70,000 between them at any one time and that assumes those camps ONLY accommodated people from TII and no where else.
That means you need to evidence and show which other camps took people from TII. We have accounted for 2-3,000 in two camps, so where did the others go?
There are witnesses who were on transports from TII to Majdanek (which when tallied make 2-3,000 deportees arrived).
How do you KNOW that 2,000-3,000 deportees went only to Majdanek?
From the evidence from Majdanek, as it only shows limited arrivals from TII and it could not accommodate much more than 2-3,000 (as it also accommodated prisoners from elsewhere) and from the evidence of the witnesses who worked at TII and on the railways who all said that empty trains left TII.
There are some documents at Majdanek that recorded deportess arrived from TII.
The document from the USHMM also claims that deportees went to over a dozen different camps. There are NO records for them being fed, clothed and sheltered at any of those camps.
Now, unless you can do the same for other camps in Nazi occupied territory, then you have no evidence to prove c840,000 people left TII to go to and live at other camps.
I've never claimed to have proven that ~840,000 people transited through T-II. I've offered evidence for that.
All you have offered is Eric Hunt and Mattogno's evidence which at best evidences 2-3,000 were transitted through TII. Considering there is evidence c850,000 were sent to TII, that is not enough to evidence TII was a transit camp.
I've offered proof that ~840,000 people weren't steamed/gassed/vacuumed in hermetically sealed chambers, buried, exhumed and cremated on the magic Jew barbeque.
Your arguments are not "proof" to any normal standard. No academic discipline uses your method.
What proof do you have that deportees weren't sent to Auschwitz, Budzyn, Majdanek, Zanbrow, Rembertow, and other camps? Anything besides "what ifs" and "coulda woulda" that is? No, I didn't think so.
There are only limited records & witnesses to of arrrivals from TII at Majdanek. There is a witness to arrivals from TII at Budzyn. The camps elsewhere have no evidence of arrivals from TII.
Remember your first rule of evidence, if it is not possible, it did not happen. It is physically impossible for the Nazis to have transported c840,000 people to Auschwitz, Zanbrow, Rembertow and other camps without leaving any documentary or witness evidence at all and those places could not have physically accommodated tens of thousands of people arriving on most days, as they were not big enough, even A-B.