Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

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Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

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The Stroop report was a forgery.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:06 am
The Stroop report was a forgery.
If it was, then there would be more than one Stroop Report! You don't understand what a forgery is :lol:
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OK, poor choice of words. The Polish underground prepared a fake (sham, fraudulent, counterfeit) report supposedly from Stroop. That better?

BTW, here's a definition for "forgery".
for•ger•y fôr′jə-rē►
n.
The act of forging something, especially the unlawful act of counterfeiting a document or object for the purposes of fraud or deception.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:49 am
OK, poor choice of words. The Polish underground prepared a fake (sham, fraudulent, counterfeit) report supposedly from Stroop. That better?

BTW, here's a definition for "forgery".
for•ger•y fôr′jə-rē►
n.
The act of forging something, especially the unlawful act of counterfeiting a document or object for the purposes of fraud or deception.
No, you chose the wrong word, because you are ignorant and your attempts to dismiss evidence that does not suit you are pathetic and very transparent. Prove your claim (though not here, as that would be off topic).

Between Stroop, Ganzenmuller, Hofle, Korherr and transport records from ghettos, there is significant documentary evidence of mass transports of people to TII, and the other AR camps, to show PR's claim that the camps were used to sort property only are false.

PR is desperately trying to separate the people from the property, to then claim AR was only about property. He has to ignore evidence to the contrary, such as Globocnik's report to Himmler and pretend that it does not matter than he concludes AR with hundreds of thousands of naked people inside the AR camps, as if there was no plan for the camp commanders as to what to do with those people.
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Nessie wrote:
No, you chose the wrong word, because you are ignorant and your attempts to dismiss evidence that does not suit you are pathetic and very transparent.
See the definition of "forgery". What part of, "act of counterfeiting a document" don't you understand?

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:27 pm
Nessie wrote:
No, you chose the wrong word, because you are ignorant and your attempts to dismiss evidence that does not suit you are pathetic and very transparent.
See the definition of "forgery". What part of, "act of counterfeiting a document" don't you understand?
You are back to claiming there is more than one copy of the Stroop Report, the original and the counterfeits! :lol:
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Nessie wrote:
You are back to claiming there is more than one copy of the Stroop Report, the original and the counterfeits!
Listen up you moron. There doesn't have to be an original for someone to counterfeit/forge a document. Didn't you even read the dictionary definition?

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:06 pm
Nessie wrote:
You are back to claiming there is more than one copy of the Stroop Report, the original and the counterfeits!
Listen up you moron. There doesn't have to be an original for someone to counterfeit/forge a document. Didn't you even read the dictionary definition?
Counterfeit means "made in exact imitation of something". Forgery means "the action of forging a copy or imitation of a document, signature, banknote, or work of art." Both mean copying something an original. You are clueless :lol:
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Nessie wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:29 pm
Turnagain wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:06 pm
Nessie wrote:
You are back to claiming there is more than one copy of the Stroop Report, the original and the counterfeits!
Listen up you moron. There doesn't have to be an original for someone to counterfeit/forge a document. Didn't you even read the dictionary definition?
Counterfeit means "made in exact imitation of something". Forgery means "the action of forging a copy or imitation of a document, signature, banknote, or work of art." Both mean copying something an original. You are clueless :lol:
Let's see your source for those definitions. As far as a forged document having to have an original just do a search on "intestate" and "forged wills".

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Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

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Nessie wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:29 pm

Counterfeit means "made in exact imitation of something". Forgery means "the action of forging a copy or imitation of a document, signature, banknote, or work of art." Both mean copying something an original. You are clueless :lol:
Albert Ganzenmüller letter said:
A train carrying 5,000 Jews has run daily since 22 July from Warsaw to Treblinka via Malkinia; furthermore, another train has run twice a week with 5,000 Jews from Przemysl to Belzec...The latter is in agreement that transport from Warsaw to Sobibor via Lublin should continue while the reconstruction work on this stretch renders such movements impossible ([until] approximately October 1942)

Karl Wolff replied 13 August 1942:

… I note with particular pleasure from your communication that a train with 5,000 members of the chosen race has been running daily for 14 days and that we are accordingly in a position to continue with this population movement at an accelerated pace. […]

The first transport of 1500 villagers to Bobruysk was on 28-29 May 1942 to the camp in Bobruysk a few months before Treblinka II apparently became operational (23 July 1942); this was the first mass deportation from the Warsaw Ghetto. The second transport left the Warsaw ghetto at the end of July 1942. The second transport had 1400 villagers according to the Warsaw judenrat.

According to the Zollgrenzschutz archives there are only two exit point to Ostland from the General Government; Malkinia (Treblinka) and Wlodawa (Sobibor), the southern point to the Ukraine being Belzec; these three exit points are mentioned in the letter by Albert Ganzenmüller; it would stand to reason that due to reconstruction works on the Warsaw-Malkinia line that Sobibor would become the only exit point in the interim. These works occurred about the time of the Bobruysk transports from Warsaw.

This does not detract from the fact that the Höfle telegram has the inscription Bezug: dort. Fs. Zugang bis
.(dates).... whether or not Fs means Fährt Sortierzentrum or 'travels to sorting centre' is open to debate, but concurs exactly with what PrudentRegret has concluded after his extensive investigations. Because the translator had no idea what Fs meant, they simply put the words Recorded Arrivals, which is more or less correct, but to where, to the sorting place or Sortierzentrum.

Trainloads of villagers also left Warsaw to exit the General Government to arrive at the Smolensk judenlagers.

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