Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Discuss the alleged Nazi genocide or other wartime atrocities without fear of censorship. No bullying of fellow posters is allowed at RODOH. If you can't be civil, please address the argument and not the participants. Do not use disparaging alterations of the user-names of other RODOH posters or their family members. Failure to heed warnings from Moderators will result in a 24 hour ban (or longer if necessary).
User avatar
Nessie
Posts: 32074
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:00 pm
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Nessie »

Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:44 am
.... It has been emphatically shown that the jüdische world population figures were fudged by jude Samuel Untermyer and several organizations long before his declaration of war on the Reich. Most of the missing millions never existed except on paper as fudged data.

....
You should ignore that data and use the Nazis own data. Jews were identified, registered and recorded. That resulted in some very precise figures, such as the number Hofle recorded as arriving at the AR camps, the number shot at Bai Yar by the EG and the huge drop in the Jewish population as recorded by Korherr.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

SUPPORT RODOH!
Would you like to financially contribute to the upkeep of RODOH? Please kindly contact Scott Smith ([email protected]). Any and all contributions are welcome!


User avatar
Huntinger
Posts: 9836
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:56 am
Location: Gasthaus Waldesruh.Österreichisches Deutsch
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Huntinger »

Nessie wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:38 am
Which is wrong. The AR camp Commanders must have had instructions as to what to do with the people, once their property had been stolen from them.
Of course but that is nothing to do with Aktion Reinhardt; it is clear there were selections. Some selections were immediate for aktion 14f13, others were for work in the General Government and others into Ostland und Ukraine.
Reinhardt took the wealth from villagers working in the GG, while Customs did their bit as all customs officers do for people expelled.
You are correct that T4 staff were posted at the AR camps and that the Jews were killed.
Only the sick and elderly. Aktion 14f13; nothing to do with Reinhardt but ran parallel in border camps, in fact in all konzentration und judenlagers.
That is what is evidenced to have happened and the suggestion most were not killed and went elsewhere is unevidenced. Unbiased, sensible, intelligent people go with what is evidenced, not with what is not evidenced.
Absolute nonsense. People of Belarus were seconded into Germany to replace villagers exited out. This was in the millions and spoken about with the specific program elsewhere. Schmelt had much to do with this, while Todt was fixing bombed railway lines, airfields and roads with new construction going on. These people were also sent to the the West, including the Channel islands for fortification work.

Many of the judenlager were not known about in Ostland und Ukraine until recently. It is likely people like yourself did not know where they went due to lack of knowledge which is known as ignorance.

There is a huge amount of evidence of mass arrivals in Ukraine und Ostland.

𝕸𝖊𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝕰𝖍𝖗𝖊 𝖍𝖊𝖎ß𝖙 𝕿𝖗𝖊𝖚𝖊
Amt VI..Ausland-SD

User avatar
Nessie
Posts: 32074
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:00 pm
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Nessie »

Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:48 am
....
There is a huge amount of evidence of mass arrivals in Ukraine und Ostland.
That is a lie. The rest of your post is merely you regurgitating what you have read and misunderstood on Wikipedia. The AR camps came under the command of AR and there is no other operation evidenced to be associated with those places.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

User avatar
Depth Check
Site Moderator
Posts: 1121
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:49 am
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Depth Check »

Turnagain, regardless of your own personal views on Jews please stop referring to them as kikes in this forum. This is a serious forum for serious people. We will never attract serious exterminationist posters if every other post here contains anti-Semitic insults.

Thank you.

DC

User avatar
Huntinger
Posts: 9836
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:56 am
Location: Gasthaus Waldesruh.Österreichisches Deutsch
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Huntinger »

Nessie wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:53 am
That is a lie. The rest of your post is merely you regurgitating what you have read and misunderstood on Wikipedia. The AR camps came under the command of AR and there is no other operation evidenced to be associated with those places.
The Einsatz Reinhardt connection was clearly explained by PR; it is suggested the poster Nessie reads this more carefully instead of the constant salivating over "where they went" as done recently here and at Klowns.
Nessie wrote:Once the personal possessions were stolen from the Jews inside the camps at Sobibor, Belzec and TII, what happened to the people?
Emotive words like stolen do not cut mustard, the villagers knew they had to release their valuables by law; when they tried to hide them in socks, shoes, linings, pockets it was simply taken and sorted. Aktion 14f13 is clearly associated with those places as the Dutch survivors have mentioned.
What is clear is that some people were expelled to Ostland while others were sent to work within the GG. It appears in many instances the labour requirements in each of the places were relayed to the border camps where decisions were made.

Amazingly the second transport to Bobruysk left the Warsaw ghetto at the end of July 1942, during the first week of the "great transport" of the Jews of this ghetto to the death camp of Treblinka. These partizani were sent to Czerwony bor for execution as terrorists. The second transport had over a thousand men, who obviously were not associated with the terrorist action at Warsaw. These had been apprehended on the street or taken from their homes. Once arrested, they were sent to labour camps, where they were promised decent conditions and good food. According to a July 1942 report of the Judenrat of Warsaw, 1,413 workers were sent from the ghetto: 413 to a work camp in the Lublin District and 1,000 to Luftgaukommando Moskau (headquartered in Smolensk), and to Minsk (see the Report of the Warsaw Judenrat, July 1942).

This is pure proof that there were selections to the GG and to Ostland. From Warsaw they would have to pass through Malkinia to get there.

𝕸𝖊𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝕰𝖍𝖗𝖊 𝖍𝖊𝖎ß𝖙 𝕿𝖗𝖊𝖚𝖊
Amt VI..Ausland-SD

User avatar
Nessie
Posts: 32074
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:00 pm
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Nessie »

Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:43 pm
......

This is pure proof that there were selections to the GG and to Ostland. From Warsaw they would have to pass through Malkinia to get there.
Sources?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

User avatar
Huntinger
Posts: 9836
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:56 am
Location: Gasthaus Waldesruh.Österreichisches Deutsch
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Huntinger »

Nessie wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:00 pm
Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:43 pm
......

This is pure proof that there were selections to the GG and to Ostland. From Warsaw they would have to pass through Malkinia to get there.
Sources?
There are only two exits, only two customs posts, Wlodawa and Malkinia. From Warsaw they may have gone through Wlodawa a few kilometres from Sobibor. Both the Treblinka and Sobibor complexes had similar status from what is read it does not matter which one.

𝕸𝖊𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝕰𝖍𝖗𝖊 𝖍𝖊𝖎ß𝖙 𝕿𝖗𝖊𝖚𝖊
Amt VI..Ausland-SD

User avatar
Nessie
Posts: 32074
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:00 pm
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Nessie »

Huntinger wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:11 am
Nessie wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:00 pm
Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:43 pm
......

This is pure proof that there were selections to the GG and to Ostland. From Warsaw they would have to pass through Malkinia to get there.
Sources?
There are only two exits, only two customs posts, Wlodawa and Malkinia. From Warsaw they may have gone through Wlodawa a few kilometres from Sobibor. Both the Treblinka and Sobibor complexes had similar status from what is read it does not matter which one.
Sources?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

User avatar
Huntinger
Posts: 9836
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:56 am
Location: Gasthaus Waldesruh.Österreichisches Deutsch
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Huntinger »

Nessie wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:28 pm
Sources?
It is quite amazing that this poster has an inability to do his own research. A map of railway tracks over the border has been given as well as extensive maps on customs border locations on the boundary of the GG; the poster can search for these and find anomalies in them, if any, which will add to the base knowledge. Of course the poster Nessie may claim that people would cross a boundary sneakily avoiding customs, which of course some did and got shot by Grenzpolizei. I am sure that soldaten of the SS und Wehrmacht Heer escorting villagers would not sneak across the bug, to find bullets from der Grenzpolizei or Zollgrenzschutz whizzing past their ear or parting their hair.

The only way to sort such a mess out between forces, civilly would be for Fritz Reinhardt and Heinrich Himmler to enter the ring in a bout of boxing, with der Führer as the ref; perhaps Max Schmeling. :)
Image

𝕸𝖊𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝕰𝖍𝖗𝖊 𝖍𝖊𝖎ß𝖙 𝕿𝖗𝖊𝖚𝖊
Amt VI..Ausland-SD

User avatar
Nessie
Posts: 32074
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:00 pm
Contact:

Re: Aktion Reinhardt was named after Fritz Reinhardt- not Reinhard Heydrich

Post by Nessie »

Huntinger wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:43 pm
Nessie wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:28 pm
Sources?
It is quite amazing that this poster has an inability to do his own research.....
Your claims need sources.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 23 guests