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Re: How can transporting & accommodating 1.274 million leave no evidence?

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Nessie wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:11 pm
The topic is "How can transporting & accommodating 1.274 million leave no evidence?"

The answer is that it cannot. It is impossible to do that and leave no evidence.
There are several reasons why there could be "no evidence"
  • The events never occurred
  • The evidence is simply not found
  • The evidence was destroyed
In relationship to the events not occurring is because the scenario as reported is incorrect; another set of events took place which was somehow misconstrued; the reasons not important for now.
If this is the case then people have been looking in the wrong place for a scenario that did not occur, so of course no evidence is available; it is like if a plane crashes and people are searching for wreckage some 1000 km away due to conjecture; perhaps the plane landed safely somewhere.
It is possible the events of transportation occurred but the documents are simply not found or hidden. The most likely explanation considering the Soviet involvement is this one. The Soviet involvement with any evidence must be seriously considered due to their track record of such subterfuge elsewhere.

So some people went to these AR camps, say TII, some sent back for work placements and no records of return trips.

The hoaxers have assumed that because there was no return trip the people were murdered. Considering that the camps were
Customs exit camps does not imply a free ticket to heaven but more likely that people were evicted from the General Government.

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Nessie wrote:
The topic is "How can transporting & accommodating 1.274 million leave no evidence?"

The answer is that it cannot. It is impossible to do that and leave no evidence.
With over 40 years to play with the evidence, it was entirely possible for the Soviets to scrub any evidence of the Jews being transited through the AR camps. That they missed the evidence of a tiny handful being transported to alternate destinations is just evidence that is exactly what they did. Proof of their chicanery has been shown on numerous occasions. Most notably their attempts to fix the blame for the Katyn massacres on the Germans and the show trials they conducted.

Your lack of evidence has been shown to be just that; a lack of evidence proving nothing. Your endless whine of, "Where did they goooo?" is a bust.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:39 pm
Nessie wrote:
The topic is "How can transporting & accommodating 1.274 million leave no evidence?"

The answer is that it cannot. It is impossible to do that and leave no evidence.
With over 40 years to play with the evidence, it was entirely possible for the Soviets to scrub any evidence of the Jews being transited through the AR camps. That they missed the evidence of a tiny handful being transported to alternate destinations is just evidence that is exactly what they did. Proof of their chicanery has been shown on numerous occasions. Most notably their attempts to fix the blame for the Katyn massacres on the Germans and the show trials they conducted.
It is better than that, der Juden that were expelled into what used to be Soviet Poland to fill the gaps left by the Russian Polish Holocaust were in fact annexed by the Soviets; they kept these people behind the Iron Curtain and fudged the statistics. They had the power, the means, the people and the motivation.

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I'm working my way through "The Gulag Archipelago" and the level of corruption and dishonesty Solzhenitsyn tells of is astonishing. Destroying some transport records in order to promote a "holocaust" by the Germans would be done without a second thought by Soviet state "organs". Nessie's claim that the lack of records is evidence of the holyhoax is laughable.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:39 pm
Nessie wrote:
The topic is "How can transporting & accommodating 1.274 million leave no evidence?"

The answer is that it cannot. It is impossible to do that and leave no evidence.
With over 40 years to play with the evidence, it was entirely possible for the Soviets to scrub any evidence of the Jews being transited through the AR camps.
Deniers love to point to the mistakes at gas chamber reconstruction that the Soviets made at Auschwitz krema I and Majdanek. You then dismiss their examinations of the AR camps as deeply flawed and I agree enough that I never use them. You then point to surviving records and claim they missed them. So, your claim that the Soviets were so organised that they managed to find records of every single one of the 1.274 million and destroy them is utter nonsense.
That they missed the evidence of a tiny handful being transported to alternate destinations is just evidence that is exactly what they did.
Non sequitur, your conclusion is not wholly and uniquely supported by your premise. The other reason there are no records of 1.274 million people arriving at other camps is because that did not happen.
Proof of their chicanery has been shown on numerous occasions. Most notably their attempts to fix the blame for the Katyn massacres on the Germans and the show trials they conducted.
At the time there was suspicion the Soviets were lying, but political expediency got in the way of the truth. Now they admit Katyn was a Soviet atrocity and the Nazis were telling the truth. The truth got out. You then expect others to believe the truth got out about one massacre, but it is still being preserved about the far larger operation to transport over a million people and then feed, clothe and accommodate them.

Only nutters who love CTs would believe that.
Your lack of evidence has been shown to be just that; a lack of evidence proving nothing. Your endless whine of, "Where did they goooo?" is a bust.
It is your lack of evidence, since it is your claim 1.274 million people were transported, fed, clothed and accommodated without leaving any evidence at all. Your endless whine is you trying to ignore your lack of evidence.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Nessie wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:41 am
It is your lack of evidence, since it is your claim 1.274 million people were transported, fed, clothed and accommodated without leaving any evidence at all. Your endless whine is you trying to ignore your lack of evidence.
If this poster fails to read the posts of others, which clearly states that people were sent to Reichskommissariat Ukraine, which is the Russian East, then this is trolling. It was asked to check this valid assumption due to the proximity of the AR camps to those localities and report back, not waffle on about evidencing.
It said wrote:At the time there was suspicion the Soviets were lying, but political expediency got in the way of the truth. Now they admit Katyn was a Soviet atrocity and the Nazis were telling the truth.
Russia’s parliament declared that Joseph Stalin ordered his secret police to execute 22,000 Polish army officers and civilians in 1940, in one of the greatest mass murders of the 20th century; Mikhail Gorbachev, the last president of the Soviet Union, admitted in 1990 that the NKVD (Soviet secret police agency) was to blame for the massacre, after a half-century of the Soviets blaming it on the Reich.

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There is no evidence, from any source, that the 1.274 million were sent east and accommodated there. No witnesses from the 1.274 million, no documents recording their transportation, feeding and clothing, no physical evidence of where they lived.

It is impossible (except to a die hard conspiracy theorist who ignores the burden of proof) for that many people to have been transported, fed, clothed and accommodated, without leaving any evidence of that happening.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Nessie wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:39 am
There is no evidence, from any source, that the 1.274 million were sent east and accommodated there. No witnesses from the 1.274 million, no documents recording their transportation, feeding and clothing, no physical evidence of where they lived.

It is impossible (except to a die hard conspiracy theorist who ignores the burden of proof) for that many people to have been transported, fed, clothed and accommodated, without leaving any evidence of that happening.
There is evidence, a camp was set up opposite Sobibor on the Bug river, which was a tent city; the links have been posted previously and I cannot be bothered right now to entertain your repeated "denial". They were not accommodated, they were evicted, so which part of that do you not understand Jude? Once evicted they were no longer prisoners of the General Government but sent to another administration. Once evicted the Reich did not care about clothing etc, they had to fend for themselves. Simple and Cruel perhaps but that is what happened.

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Nessie wrote:
There is no evidence, from any source, that the 1.274 million were sent east and accommodated there.
Where did they gooooooo? Show us some PROOF that they were gassed, buried, exhumed and cremated on a magic Jew barbeque, Nessie.

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