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Re: Sobibor Photos

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I like Sobibor, in fact, I like the place a lot. The reality of Sobibor shown in these newly released photographs reveals it to have been a well ordered military establishment. This reality is certainly a far cry from the official Jewish narrative of the camp being a charred and smoking wasteland, manned by drunks and littered with the partially cremated and still smouldering remains of murdered Jews which were picked at and gnawed on by rats and other scavenging animals.

Poor Nessie, now he must invent, troll and BS, to the highest extent to convince our readers these innocent new Sobibor photographs actually show mass murder.
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Charles Traynor wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:21 pm
I like Sobibor, in fact, I like the place a lot. The reality of Sobibor shown in these newly released photographs reveals it to have been a well ordered military establishment. This reality is certainly a far cry from the official Jewish narrative of the camp being a charred and smoking wasteland, littered with the partially cremated and still smouldering remains of murdered Jews whose cremains were being picked at and gnawed on by rats and other scavenging animals.

Poor Nessie, now he must invent, troll and BS, to the highest extent to convince our readers these innocent new Sobibor photographs actually show mass murder.
Maybe you can answer what others dodge.

It makes sense not to have taken photos of the part of the camp where the gas chambers, mass graves were located. But, why when according to deniers Sobibor was used as a transit camp are there no photos of that happening?

There are plenty examples of photos of transports, from the Warsaw ghetto to Birkenau. But none for Sobibor. Kurt Franz's photos of TII also do not show any transports. According to deniers that was also a transit camp.
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Nessie wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:34 am
There are plenty examples of photos of transports, from the Warsaw ghetto to Birkenau. But none for Sobibor. Kurt Franz's photos of TII also do not show any transports. According to deniers that was also a transit camp.
The transit camp hypothesis is merely that, to it being the most likely explanation given the limited information. These photos show an orderly military complex totally unrelated to death as suggested. That said, only a few of these photos are published for perusal; the rest need to be examined before jumping to conclusions.

It is clear that some people are becoming worried, this is evident due to the claim of the stealing of glass goblets from the inmates, all without the slightest shred of evidence, except to mention a "historian"; the Germans are cultured people and would have brought their own glassware like any normal group of people.

Der juden should be worried; this is why the rest of the inoffensive photos have not been released as it does show a completely different visual narrative of the camp, which up to now was only in the imagination.

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There aren't any photos of deportees arriving at Treblinka that I know of. Are there photos of Jews arriving at Sobibor?

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Turnagain wrote:
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There aren't any photos of deportees arriving at Treblinka that I know of. Are there photos of Jews arriving at Sobibor?
There are no photos of transports inside either camp, whether they are arrivals or departures or just people at the stations. There are also no photos of those people being processed, having hair cuts, property removed, prison uniform issued, nothing.

We know from physical, witness and documentary evidence that both camps had a railway spur and station inside them. We know from witness and documentary evidence that around a million people were sent to the camps.

Nothing in the photos evidences the denier transit camp hypothesis.
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Nessie wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:04 am
Nothing in the photos evidences the denier transit camp hypothesis.
You judge this from 5 photos out of about 65, please comment when you have examined the rest. Until then.

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Nessie wrote:
Nothing in the photos evidences the denier transit camp hypothesis.
Neither is there anything in the photos to evidence that the AR camps were extermination facilities. You still have...

No cremains, no graves, no holyhoax. Finito. End of story.

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Turnagain wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:10 am
Nessie wrote:
Nothing in the photos evidences the denier transit camp hypothesis.
Neither is there anything in the photos to evidence that the AR camps were extermination facilities. You still have...

No cremains, no graves, no holyhoax. Finito. End of story.
That the fences in the camp were covered over is consistent with witness descriptions of the roadway to the gas chambers and how that part of the camp was kept hidden from the rest of the camp. There is no photo of any other camp that shows fences that have been covered in the same way.

You have reduced yourself to posting constant lies. You lie that there is no evidence in the photos, that there are no cremains at the camps, no traces of graves and no evidence of gassings.

Werd went the same way as you, constantly lying, when he realised he had run out of arguments.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Nessie wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:14 pm
That the fences in the camp were covered over is consistent with witness descriptions of the roadway to the gas chambers and how that part of the camp was kept hidden from the rest of the camp. There is no photo of any other camp that shows fences that have been covered in the same way. ............... ON TOPIC

You have reduced yourself to posting constant lies. You lie that there is no evidence in the photos, that there are no cremains at the camps, no traces of graves and no evidence of gassings.

Werd went the same way as you, constantly lying, when he realised he had run out of arguments
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Reading this it seems as though the poster should take a break for a while; accusing others of lying is not good form.
The fences are trellis hedges, which are used by many people for reasons of their own. Germans tend to be very private. There is a clear separation between work and social life, and a clear distinction between colleagues, aquaintances and friends. Hedges act as excellent wind breaks, especially for horticulture. What is significant is the single strand of electric wire on the insulators on the outer fence which does not look particularly sturdy; in fact I have seen much stronger deer fences.

How many camps has the poster seen photos of?

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Huntinger wrote:
What is significant is the single strand of electric wire on the insulators on the outer fence which does not look particularly sturdy; in fact I have seen much stronger deer fences.
I don't think that the outer fence shows any insulators. Those are just the tops of wooden posts cut from saplings by someone who was very good with an axe. The blow is struck from an angle leaving an oblong of cut wood. I've seen this done by my father who was cutting similar fence posts from willows so this isn't just a supposition.

The fact that these are just ordinary fences with not even any concertina wire on top is suggestive of boundary markers rather than real barriers as shown by the fences at Auschwitz. Nessie and the Klowns trying to manufacture some kind of "evidence" from these fences of the eeevul Narzis nefarious intentions is horse frocky of the first order.

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