A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by Kleon XYZ Contagion » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:30 pm

Norm wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Huntinger:
It is clear the alleged jüdisch holocaust is a little emotional for you for some reason.

My guess is Goody's mental issues are related to something he doesn't want to admit to himself.

It has something to do with this flag he hangs in his bedroom:

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You're probably less than 10 yrs old, right?
According to experts and scholars, the ten stages of every genocide are
Classification Symbolization Discrimination Dehumanization Organization Polarization Preparation Persecution Extermination
... and finally the 10th stage:
Denial
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/t ... ocide.html
XYZ Contagion (‘Because the truth is contagious‘), a Greek investigative journalistic research team and website on political and historical issues, has published a couple of books on history of Greek fascism and neo-nazism, occasionally contributes to newspapers and magazines, deals also with the Srebrenica Genocide:
https://xyzcontagion.wordpress.com/about/#English

English is not my first language, please forgive me for my mistakes.

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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by Huntinger » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:36 pm

Norm wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:28 pm
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If you need two of those to "flip the switch" you would need two dozen for the ΗΛΙΚΙΩΜΕΝΗ.
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This is going off topic can we stick to mass murder please.
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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by Norm » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm

Kleon XYZ Contagion wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:30 pm
Norm wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Huntinger:
It is clear the alleged jüdisch holocaust is a little emotional for you for some reason.

My guess is Goody's mental issues are related to something he doesn't want to admit to himself.

It has something to do with this flag he hangs in his bedroom:

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You're probably less than 10 yrs old, right?
Does the thought of me being less than 10 years old turn you on Goody?

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In some circumstances it can be rationally assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be easily discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of evidence of its occurrence as proof of its non-occurrence.
Such is the case for the fraudulently alleged holocaust mass graves: No graves = No holocaust - simple as that.

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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by been-there » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:38 pm

Kleon XYZ Contagion wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:48 am
Why are there no movements to deny [investigate] these other genocides in history?
Because:
1. these others aren't preventing and outlawing investigation.
2. these others aren't constantly being lied about/exaggerated.
3. because these others aren't constantly being forced into everyone's consciousness on an almost daily basis.
4. because these other ones don't have daily 'news' stories, multiple million dollar hollywood films every year, documentaries spewing out a distorted version of them.
5. because these others aren't used to gain sympathy to steal territory, brutalise and mass-murder non-Jews in Palestine.
6. because these others aren't based on non-credible, war-time atrocity propaganda that has been refuted empirically.
7. because these other genocides aren't based upon legally protected lies.
8. because these other genuine genocides aren't being used as a cover to perpetuate a current slow genocide of non-Jews happening NOW!
etc., etc.

Kleon XYZ Contagion wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:48 am
How are all those death tolls historians provide accepted without question, why aren't almanac comparisons made, census data questioned, official documents allegated to be forgeries, eyewitnesses dismissed with a casual hand-wave and so on?
See above answer.
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Post by Norm » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:39 pm

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No wonder Greeks like little boys so much.
In some circumstances it can be rationally assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be easily discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of evidence of its occurrence as proof of its non-occurrence.
Such is the case for the fraudulently alleged holocaust mass graves: No graves = No holocaust - simple as that.

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Post by been-there » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:54 pm

Kleon XYZ Contagion wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:20 pm
...YOU have to explain why WHOLE FAMILIES were taken from Greece, Hungary, Denmark, France and many other countries and transferred to the camps.
Let's say OK with the adults, work slaves, but what about kids and babies and elders 90 years old?

WHY should they be rounded up and taken thousand of miles away, during open war fronts and the Germans losing the war?
WHY should they devote trains, units, food, men, sources to such a strange decision.

You first, explain in a narrative that makes sense first, and then we'll talk.

Why the babies?
Wow! You people not only can't understand simple words, you don't even know the basics of WW2 history!! :o

Why did the Allies target and kill women, kids, babies and elders 90 years old?
Why did the Allies start mass-murdering the Germans and Japanese civilians?
Why did Britain decide to let over two million Bengalis die horrific, cruel slow deaths of starvation in 1942?

Q: Why do you only want to know about Jewish suffering during WW2?
A: because you have been misinformed and indoctrinated with a deceitful atrocity-propaganda narrative.


If you genuinely want an answer to your new rather stupid and ignorant question then read the Wannsee protocol and don't distort it's meaning with self-serving 'euphemism' interpretations.
Just read it and understand the actual words.
Your question will be answered.

The plan was to make Europe 'judenrein' by forced exile.

Originally Madagascar was to be the destination, then they were to be rounded up and held in camps so no fifth-column danger, some to be made to work and all to be incarcerated till after the war. Then some were to be expelled over the border into the Soviet 'East' to be left to fend for themselves.

During the war there was a war going on. An extremely brutal war. One that Hitler never wanted. A war that Jewish interests were the main instigators of and wanted started. One that the Churchill and his Jewish adviser Lord Lindemann escalated after 1941 — when the Polish, French and British had lost — into deliberately targeting and terrorising civilian non-combatants.
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Post by Norm » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:06 pm

Kleon XYZ Contagion:
Nice job to try to write my name in Greek, but you succeed to only 4 of the 5 letters
Let me give it a try: Πισωγλέντης

Yep, I think that's you Goody.
In some circumstances it can be rationally assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be easily discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of evidence of its occurrence as proof of its non-occurrence.
Such is the case for the fraudulently alleged holocaust mass graves: No graves = No holocaust - simple as that.

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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by blake121666 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:12 pm

been-there wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:54 pm
Kleon XYZ Contagion wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:20 pm
...YOU have to explain why WHOLE FAMILIES were taken from Greece, Hungary, Denmark, France and many other countries and transferred to the camps.
Let's say OK with the adults, work slaves, but what about kids and babies and elders 90 years old?

WHY should they be rounded up and taken thousand of miles away, during open war fronts and the Germans losing the war?
WHY should they devote trains, units, food, men, sources to such a strange decision.

You first, explain in a narrative that makes sense first, and then we'll talk.

Why the babies?
Wow! You people not only can't understand simple words, you don't even know the basics of WW2 history!! :o

Why did the Allies target and kill women, kids, babies and elders 90 years old?
Why did the Allies start mass-murdering the Germans and Japanese civilians?
Why did Britain decide to let over two million Bengalis die horrific, cruel slow deaths of starvation in 1942?

Q: Why do you only want to know about Jewish suffering during WW2?
A: because you have been misinformed and indoctrinated with a deceitful atrocity-propaganda narrative.


If you genuinely want an answer to your new rather stupid and ignorant question then read the Wannsee protocol and don't distort it's meaning with self-serving 'euphemism' interpretations.
Just read it and understand the actual words.
Your question will be answered.

The plan was to make Europe 'judenrein' by forced exile. Originally Madagascar was to be the destination, then they were to be rounded up and held in camps so no fifth-column danger, some to be made to work and all to be incarcerated till after the war. Then some were to be expelled over the border into the Soviet 'East' to be left to fend for themselves.

During the war there was a war going on. An extremely brutal war. One that Hitler never wanted. A war that Jewish interests were the main instigators of and wanted started. One that the Churchill and his Jewish adviser Lord Lindemann escalated after 1941 — when the Polish, French and British had lost — into deliberately targeting and terrorising civilian non-combatants.
You dodge direct questions. What are your speculations for these Kleon mentions if you deny their being slaughtered?

It is you who distorts the meaning of the Wansee protocol.
Wannsee protocol wrote:The possible final remnant will, since it will undoubtedly consist of the most resistant portion, have to be treated accordingly, because it is the product of natural selection and would, if released, act as a the seed of a new Jewish revival (see the experience of history.)
You have a screwy way of interpreting that part.

EDIT: BTW, BT says:
BT wrote:Originally Madagascar was to be the destination, then they were to be rounded up and held in camps so no fifth-column danger, some to be made to work and all to be incarcerated till after the war. Then some were to be expelled over the border into the Soviet 'East' to be left to fend for themselves.
The WP says
WP wrote:The evacuated Jews will first be taken, group by group, to so-called transit ghettos, in order to be transported further east from there.
Jews were indeed taken to ghettos. And then those ghettos were cleared out. There's no logical "further east" that can be discerned. There was no "expelled over the border into the Soviet 'East' to be left to fend for themselves" that BT muses about.
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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by Norm » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:17 pm

blake:
You dodge direct questions.
Says the serial dodger.

blake:
What are your speculations for these Kleon mentions if you deny their being slaughtered?
One cannot “deny” something that does not exist or that has never been proven to be true.
In some circumstances it can be rationally assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be easily discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of evidence of its occurrence as proof of its non-occurrence.
Such is the case for the fraudulently alleged holocaust mass graves: No graves = No holocaust - simple as that.

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Re: A challenge to Holocaust 'revisionists': Here's your chance to join academia

Post by Norm » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:27 pm

blake:
Jews were indeed taken to ghettos. And then those ghettos were cleared out. There's no logical "further east" that can be discerned. There was no "expelled over the border into the Soviet 'East' to be left to fend for themselves" that BT muses about.

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I, _?_ (full legal - VERIFIALBE - name),

am so confident that the Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka II "holocausts" happened - as alleged in orthodox historiography,
and that the "eyewitness" testimony for said "holocausts within the holocaust" - constitutes credible evidence,
and that the investigations of said "holocaust" camps in search of empirical evidence - were valid,
that I am willing to bet Greg Gerdes _?_ (choose one):


1: $ .o6 US

2: $ .60 US

3: $ 6.00 US

4: $ 60.00 US

5: $ 600.00 US

6: $ 6,666.66 US


that I can show him the evidence which proves _?_ (list all that apply):


1: With 100% certainty

2: Beyond a shadow of a doubt

3: With the utmost certainty

4: With the same standard of proof espoused by Michael Shermer and the so-called "Skeptics" Society

5: With the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts

6: With the same standard of proof applied in U.S. civil courts

7: With the same standard of proof applied in German Federal Republic courts

8: With the same standard of proof applied at Nuremberg


that at _?_ (choose one):

1: Belzec

2: Sobibor

3: Treblinka II


no less than (choose as many as apply):


_?_ people were dead on arrival at the camp.

_?_ people (internees) actually set foot (dead or alive) within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ people were murdered within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ people died by means of poison gas within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ people died by means of a bullet wound received within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ people were buried (as whole corpses) within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ corpses "in a wax-fat transformation" currently lie within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ people were cremated within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ pounds of human cremains were buried within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ pounds of human remains currently lie within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ human teeth currently lie within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ bullets currently lie within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ pits / ditches alleged by the eyewitnesses to have been dug and utilized as burning / cremation - pits / ditches have actually been located / proven to exist within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ of the above said verified eyewitnessed burning / cremation - pits / ditches within the boundary of the camp currently contain human remains.

_?_ pits / ditches alleged by the eyewitnesses to have been dug and utilized as mass graves have actually been located / proven to exist within the boundary of the camp.

_?_ of the above said verified eyewitnessed mass graves within the boundary of the camp currently contain human remains.

_?_ scientific reports detailing the forensic analysis of remains located within the boundary of the camp were completed.


Furthermore, because I want to do all I can to put an end to holocaust denial, I agree to challenge Greg Gerdes to accept this wager no later than _?_/_?_/_?_, and agree that if I refuse to answer a question or get caught lying during our debate - I lose the bet.

As well, I accept and acknowledge that the option of demanding that both sides prove to each other that they have the ways and means to make good on the amount that I chose to bet above is mine - which I _?_ (choose - or - do not choose) to invoke.

Remember:

What kind of self-deceiving coward calls a skeptic of their unsubstantiated allegations a

“denier” - yet is unwilling to bet that they can prove what they so vehemently allege is true?

(One cannot “deny” something that does not exist or that has never been proven to be true.)

http://www.nafcash.com/

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What are you waiting for blake?

What are you so afraid of?
In some circumstances it can be rationally assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be easily discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of evidence of its occurrence as proof of its non-occurrence.
Such is the case for the fraudulently alleged holocaust mass graves: No graves = No holocaust - simple as that.

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