Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by rollo the ganger » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:24 pm

Werd wrote: Fixed. The holocaust mongers should prove this grave exists or at least did exist with some archaeological work. They didn't and they haven't and they won't. Therefore, they lose. Nobody is obligated to believe them, or did their homework for them when they have the burden of proof. Without proper excavation, doubt is justified. 1+1=2. Fuck off, troll.
It's not up to Mattogno to go looking for these graves. It would have been up to the Soviets to find them way back when. Mattogno's real position is that they don't exist so there's no point for him to go looking for them. If the hoaxsters feel they do exist then it's incumbent upon them to go find out if they are there if they want to prove something.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by Turnagain » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:40 am

Nessie claimed that if hoaxers had no proof of a claim, revisionists must prove that there's no proof of no proof...or somepin'.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by Huntinger » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:04 am

Turnagain wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:40 am
Nessie claimed that if hoaxers had no proof of a claim, revisionists must prove that there's no proof of no proof...or somepin'.
Don't worry about Flipper, he ain't coming back soon anytime. There are more important and interesting issues to discuss than evidencing and where did they go without this troll. Can we discuss the book please and ignore the obvious trolls. They are not worthy of comment.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by rollo the ganger » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:23 am

In my opening post I mentioned the five points Mattogno brought up regarding the EG and their actions.

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All the points deal with a matter of scale and Mattogno addressed the matter sufficiently to give reasonable doubt to the claims by the Holocaust Narrative. The Hoaxsters here at Rodoh had an opportunity to provide reasonable rebuttal of these points but instead they squandered them on "where did they go?" chants and complaining about what Mattogno did not put in his book rather than what is actually in it. Unless one of the Hoaxsters have anything to add to any rebuttal of the five points I believe we can move on.

Next issue: AKTION 1005

Is it real? If there really was an AKTION 1005 is it what the Holocaust Narrative claims it was? What is the evidence? What are the documents?

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Post by Huntinger » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:24 pm

Thank you RtG I notice once again this is coming back to Soviet Propaganda. The evidence against the Soviets are becoming more and more compelling.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by Werd » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:25 pm

Before we get into how Mattogno treats Aktion 1005, I would just like to post PART TWO section 1.8 as promised before. Then we can move on.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by Nessie » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:31 pm

rollo the ganger wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:24 pm
Werd wrote: Fixed. The holocaust mongers should prove this grave exists or at least did exist with some archaeological work. They didn't and they haven't and they won't. Therefore, they lose. Nobody is obligated to believe them, or did their homework for them when they have the burden of proof. Without proper excavation, doubt is justified. 1+1=2. Fuck off, troll.
It's not up to Mattogno to go looking for these graves. It would have been up to the Soviets to find them way back when. Mattogno's real position is that they don't exist so there's no point for him to go looking for them. If the hoaxsters feel they do exist then it's incumbent upon them to go find out if they are there if they want to prove something.
It is up to Mattogno to evidence his claim that it would have been easy for the courts/Soviets to find the graves. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. Stop pretending Mattogno has not made any claim.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by Nessie » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:33 pm

Turnagain wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:40 am
Nessie claimed that if hoaxers had no proof of a claim, revisionists must prove that there's no proof of no proof...or somepin'.
When a denier makes a claim, such as it would be easy to locate some graves, or there were no gassings at the AR camps, it is up to them to evidence and prove their claim.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Post by Huntinger » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:51 pm

Nessie wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:33 pm
When a denier makes a claim, such as it would be easy to locate some graves, or there were no gassings at the AR camps, it is up to them to evidence and prove their claim.
If someone says there are dead people and there are graves; then they need to say where those graves are and that in fact there are people albeit dead in there. I could say that there are thousands of dead injuns in the Nevada desert buried, you prove that they are not there. At this point the person making the claim of the dead injuns is simply ignored unless there is compelling proof.

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