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Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:40 pm
by Nessie
Werd wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:34 am
rollo the ganger wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:48 am

Here we go again. Nessie is arguing about what is NOT in the book rather than what is in it. And now he's whining that it should contain ALL the evidence that exists. Maybe Nessie is suggesting Mattogno's book should also contain the Arolsen Archives and everything contained in the archives in Russia.
All "where did they go" questions are being ignored as we already have topics for that. Nessie's repetition of fallacies and reversal of burden of proof (mattogno takes the blame for the court refusing to easily locate the bodies in that one case)
It is Mattogno's claim the graves would be easy to find. So why did he do nothing to find them?
... is also being ignored as it has already been refuted.
Not it has not. Mattogno lists graves he claims would be easy to locate, but he has not located any of them.
PART TWO chapter 1.8 is coming up. After that rollo, I'm sure we can say that points 2,3, and 4 will have been covered in your 5 point bullet point list in the OP. For 1 and 5 I think we should get into the origin of "1005" as Mattogno sees it, also from part two of the book. What say you?
I say jump back and deal with this;
Werd wrote: The only forested area? As in ONE POSSIBLE AREA? Wow. That's narrowing it right down! So we have pinned it down to the one and only forested area where it could have been. Sounds like the alleged graves have been localized and would be easy to locate and excavate. When Nessie denies this basic logic - If A then B. A. Therefore B. - he is lying. But then again, that's what quote mining, context shifting trolls do.
How big is the forested area?

How about, within 100m, Mattogno or you locate the graves.

Stop dodging, you are heading for your second humiliating defeat after your claims that the Nazis resettled Jews in safe areas away from the EG and partisans, but you could not evidence any or name where they were.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:01 pm
by rollo the ganger
Nessie wrote: If the Jews were not being killed, they were being accommodated, fed and clothed, even just the basics before being put to work. Why has Mattogno not found one single place where that happened?
So what you are saying Nessie, is that the Germans were the sole source for all accommodations, food, and clothing for ALL the Jews.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:10 pm
by Nessie
rollo the ganger wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:01 pm
Nessie wrote: If the Jews were not being killed, they were being accommodated, fed and clothed, even just the basics before being put to work. Why has Mattogno not found one single place where that happened?
So what you are saying Nessie, is that the Germans were the sole source for all accommodations, food, and clothing for ALL the Jews.
They were the sole source for the ones they had rounded up into camps and ghettos and part of the EG's job was to round up as many as possible.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:02 pm
by Werd
Mattogno lists graves he claims would be easy to locate...
...for the courts! That is, if they truly gave a shit about evidence. But they didn't go because they didn't care. Because they knew there'd be nothing, or else very little. I've already explained this. You can't blame revisionism for the failings of the gas chamber mongers or mass grave mongers. :lol:

Here we go...

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:12 am
by Nessie
Werd wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:02 pm
Mattogno lists graves he claims would be easy to locate...
...for the courts!
And you have been dodging proving that claim for many pages now.
That is, if they truly gave a shit about evidence. But they didn't go because they didn't care. Because they knew there'd be nothing, or else very little. I've already explained this. You can't blame revisionism for the failings of the gas chamber mongers or mass grave mongers. :lol:

Here we go...
I can point out that it would be simple for Mattogno to back his claim by him identifying where the mass grave is. I even allowed for some leeway and 100m. I then asked for the size of the forest the grave is in and you could not even manage that.

I do not believe that it would have been as easy to locate the graves as Mattogno suggests. As we know from the treatment of the AR camps, the Nazis went to a lot of effort to hide what they had done.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:16 am
by Huntinger
Nessie wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:12 am
As we know from the treatment of the AR camps, the Nazis went to a lot of effort to hide what they had done.
Rubbish, they did nothing wrong and had every intention of winning the war. There was nothing to hide.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:05 am
by rollo the ganger
Nessie wrote: They were the sole source for the ones they had rounded up into camps and ghettos...
That's already been mentioned. What about BEFORE they were rounded up and those who weren't?
Nessie wrote: ...and part of the EG's job was to round up as many as possible.
Show us the document(s) that state that was part of their mission.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:21 pm
by Huntinger
rollo the ganger wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:05 am
Show us the document(s) that state that was part of their mission.
It would seem that Flipper has been removed from this part of the system for an indeterminate period due to its lack of ability to learn from past flipperisms. Perhaps now we could discuss relevant parts of the Mattogno book that may be of interest. I admit I skim read it but have forgotten much of the details. I think quoting small paragraphs of interesting points or giving page numbers so we are all on the same page would be helpful. Call it Einstazgruppen 101 if you like. The clowns at Klowns think they know it all, gawff and cheer without giving anything of importance or relevance so it is impossible to discern between their cattle excrement and self gratification with their hands what they are trying to say. I believe they have nothing to say, just pontificate while admiring Elagabalus and themselves. Flipper will be over there soon crying how badly he was treated here, when all he was trying to do (in every thread) is to derail and to discuss the evidence of evidencing and where all Jude went. He will then go on to tell them how he has the truth but it has been a victim of victimization, prejudice and discrimination all because he is black
Jude.
It appear that the Einsatz groups started in Czechoslovakia; did they morph into the "killers" alleged today or is that just more jüdisch propaganda.? Crying wolf when in fact they were the wolves.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:03 pm
by rollo the ganger
Huntinger wrote: It would seem that Flipper has been removed from this part of the system for an indeterminate period due to its lack of ability to learn from past flipperisms. Perhaps now we could discuss relevant parts of the Mattogno book that may be of interest
Nessie wants to argue what is NOT in the book rather than debate the issue presented in it. Mitzvah is too busy reading the captions in his coloring book and trying to pronounce the words to argue coherently.

Re: Mattogno's book: The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:57 pm
by Werd
Nessie wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:12 am
I can point out that it would be simple for Mattogno the court and their alleged eyewitness to back his their claim by himthem identifying where the mass grave is.
Fixed. The holocaust mongers should prove this grave exists or at least did exist with some archaeological work. They didn't and they haven't and they won't. Therefore, they lose. Nobody is obligated to believe them, or did their homework for them when they have the burden of proof. Without proper excavation, doubt is justified. 1+1=2. Fuck off, troll.
I do not believe that it would have been as easy to locate the graves as Mattogno suggests.
That's because you're a stupid liar. Mattogno looked at this court case and figured out where the graves should be. I have already explained this.
Werd wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:03 pm
"The fact that the court did not succeed in identifying the site of the mass graves, notwithstanding the self-proclaimed witnesses, doesn't make much sense..."
Okay Mattogno, what's your reason?
because the only forested area northwest of Minsk extended south of Zaslval, a locality 25 km from the center of Minsk, on the road to Molodechno, but there were at least fifteen villages in the area of varying size.
The only forested area? As in ONE POSSIBLE AREA? Wow. That's narrowing it right down! So we have pinned it down to the one and only forested area where it could have been. Therefore, the alleged graves have been localized and would be easy to locate and excavate. When Nessie denies this basic logic - If A then B. A. Therefore B. - he is lying. But then again, that's what quote mining, context shifting trolls do.
Keep going, Nessie.
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