Mr. KnowItAll wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:27 am
been-there, are you not aware that Hitler’s views about the Jews changed over time?
Of course his views changed over time. So of course I am aware of that fact. Obviously Adolf Hitler initially had no prejudice against Jews as he wasn't aware of either them, nor what since the time of Napoleon was increasingly called ‘the Jewish question’.
So of course that viewpoint changed after his time in Vienna. Sure.
Yet the fact remains that Hitler never ever hated people individually because they were Jewish.
His best and closest friends during his time in the homeless shelter in Vienna were ALL Jewish. This is well attested to. Reinhold Hanisch also lived in the homeless hostel and was his partner in selling Hitler's paintings then. He related that Hitler's closest friends at that time were Josef Neumann and Siegfried Löffner, both Jews: "Neumann was a goodhearted man who liked Hitler very much and whom Hitler of course highly esteemed."
So you appear Papasha to be holding to an incorrect view out of ignorance.
His long-time friend, compatriot, chauffeur and body-guard Emil Maurice had Jewish ethnicity, and Hitler knew that. Hitler not only had and kept a friendship, respect and loyalty towards him his whole life, but he extended his protection to Emil's brothers and whole family.
Emil Maurice and Adolf Hitler, walking together.
Then there is the regard, respect and protection Adolf had for Eduard Bloch, his childhood Jewish family Doctor who also cared for his mother during her last illness.
Because of the poor economic situation of the Hitler family, Bloch charged reduced prices, sometimes taking no fee at all. The then 18-year-old Hitler granted him his "everlasting gratitude" for this: “Ich werde Ihnen ewig dankbar sein”
In 1908 Hitler wrote Bloch a postcard assuring him of his eternal gratitude and reverence which he expressed with handmade gifts, as for example, a large wall painting which according to Bloch's daughter Gertrude Kren (born 1903 in Austria, died 1992 in the US)
was lost in the course of time. Even in 1937, Hitler inquired about Bloch's well-being and called him an Edeljude
("noble Jew"). Bloch also apparently had a special fondness for the Hitler family...
Then there is the famous and obviously mutual affection Hitler had with the little Jewish girl Rosa Bernile Nienau.
Bernile lived in Munich and met Hitler after she and her widowed mother travelled to see their Führer at Hitler’s Bavarian Berchtesgarden retreat in 1933. Photos of the two were very popular in magazines and were sold as postcards. She was known as 'the Fuhrer's child'. Bernile and Hitler shared the same birthday and became penpals until 1938. She died on the 5th October 1943 of polio at the age of 17 in a Munich hospital.
Just as with his friend Emil Maurice, Hitler was aware of her Jewish ethnicity also. These are just three examples which provide proof that Hitler DID NOT
hate people because of their ethnic backgrounds and it is proof that it did not prevent him from having an affectionate regard and friendship with Jews.
Another aspect of this is that Hitler loved being with and playing with children, whatever their religion or race, and they loved and adored him. This is an aspect of Hitler's personality that many people don't know about, as information of it is denied to us. And that is because it contradicts the war-time and post-war self-delusional demonisation of him.
So now, I have answered your question.
You have repeatedly refused to answer questions put to you. Why won't YOU do that?
I regard this regretably as the sign of a deceitful idealogue.
Either that OR someone who is in denial and holds to beliefs that they have not arrived at through reason, but only learnt parrot-like.
Do you agree that most people start life accepting beliefs unreasonably and uncritically, as we are taught them at an age when we don't question authority or our socities mores?
Upon reaching some sort of maturity, if we maintain steadfast and obstinate reluctance to investigate when our beliefs are credibly refuted, that can be seen as the sign of a weak and immature intellect. Do you agree?
If so, this is similar to the idea related in that part of Adolf Hitler's autobiographical book that you have here quoted. Which I think is rather ironic, as you do not appear to have understood that.
Hitler related how he read anti-semitic pamphlets in Vienna but couldn't initially believe all the accusations made in them against collective Jewry. He describes how it was very hard for him to accept the truth of what he read about Jews collectively, and it took months before he accepted the accuracy of what he himself personally witnessed in Vienna. That presumably was because he also had very good experiences of Jews in Vienna, which he also describes in 'Mein kampf'. Do you deny this?
Mr. KnowItAll wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:27 am
A few quotes from Mein Kampf:
Once, as I was strolling through the city-centre, I suddenly encountered an apparition in a black caftan and black hair locks. ‘Is this a Jew?’
was my first thought. For, to be sure, they had not looked like that in Linz. I observed the man furtively and cautiously, but the longer I stared at this foreign face, scrutinizing feature for feature, the more my first question assumed a new form: ‘Is this a German?’
As always in such cases, I now began to try to relieve my doubts by books. For a few hellers I bought the first anti-Semitic pamphlets of my life. Unfortunately, they all proceeded from the supposition that in principle the reader knew or even understood the Jewish question to a certain degree. Besides, the tone for the most part was such that doubts again arose in me, due in part to the dull and amazingly unscientific arguments favouring the thesis.
I relapsed for weeks at a time, once even for months. The whole thing seemed to me so monstrous, the accusations so boundless, that, tormented by the fear of doing injustice, I again became anxious and uncertain.[...]
I had ceased to be a weak-kneed cosmopolitan and become an anti-Semite.
By the time the Austrian corporal Hitler came to power in 1933 he had equated “Jew” with “Marxism” and was anti-Semitic. A letter from the late 1910s proves nothing, one can read Mein Kampf and can see that he gradually began to hate the Jews.
So... Sure people change their minds. Of course, people's understanding can develop and expand. What you do not seem to understand is that there is no contradiction between what Adolf wrote in 1919 to Gemlich with what he dictated to Hess in Landsberg in the 1920's.
Being opposed to the traits, habits and clandestine machinations of a large majority of a group, collective or entire race is not the same as “hating” each and every individual comprising that group.
In 'Mein kampf' Hitler wrote:And whatever doubts I may still have nourished were finally dispelled by the attitude of a portion of the Jews themselves.
Just as someone can be opposed to the tendency towards criminality, immorality and organised crime of American immigrant Italians connected to the Mafia without personally hating all Italians.
Yet there was an obvious difference between immigrant Italians and immigrant Jews at that time, which still exists. But this is a taboo topic that is punished with thought-crime legislation and mass-media intimidation.