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Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Nessie » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:42 am

Denial/revisionism has no evidence from

- witnesses who were at the AR camps or in the A-B kremas
- documents pertaining to those places
- physical evidence from those places
- photographic evidence of those places
- other supporting evidence relevant to those places

Maybe someone can explain how do you debunk the Holocaust, without any evidence?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Huntinger » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:54 am

Nessie wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:42 am
Denial/revisionism has no evidence from

- witnesses who were at the AR camps or in the A-B kremas
- documents pertaining to those places
- physical evidence from those places
- photographic evidence of those places
- other supporting evidence relevant to those places

Maybe someone can explain how do you debunk the Holocaust, without any evidence?
As there is no evidence to support this claim except anecdotes then that claim is simply dismissed. There is no physical evidence of consequence, there is no photographic evidence of consequence. This forum is to discuss other supporting evidence which so far has not appeared. It might be helpful if this poster presented something worth looking at instead of his fascination with evidential procedures.
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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Nessie » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:59 pm

The elephant in the room for denial is its inability to evidence any alternative for gassings at the AR camps and Birkenau kremas. Deniers think it is sufficient to dismiss the evidence for gassings as false/fake/lies and then claim no gassings. They fail to see the logical and evidential flaws in their argument.

In its simplest form, you cannot claim B took place by claiming A could not have happened because it just sounds too incredible.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Huntinger » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:03 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:59 pm
The elephant in the room for denial is its inability to evidence any alternative for gassings at the AR camps and Birkenau kremas. Deniers think it is sufficient to dismiss the evidence for gassings as false/fake/lies and then claim no gassings. They fail to see the logical and evidential flaws in their argument.

In its simplest form, you cannot claim B took place by claiming A could not have happened because it just sounds too incredible.
Stop waffling and present some hard evidence a single Jude person was gassed anywhere in the Reich. That thread of Friedrichs is still open and waiting for someone. The argument above has also been put forward for the existence of god, elves, fairies, pixies, trolls (well we know trolls exist) and of course the flat earth. Something more original please without the normal drunken waffling like a bombastic fool.
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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Mr. KnowItAll » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:20 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:59 pm
The elephant in the room for denial is its inability to evidence any alternative for gassings at the AR camps and Birkenau kremas. Deniers think it is sufficient to dismiss the evidence for gassings as false/fake/lies and then claim no gassings. They fail to see the logical and evidential flaws in their argument.

In its simplest form, you cannot claim B took place by claiming A could not have happened because it just sounds too incredible.
Even though Turnagain has not, he thinks because he has proven that Wiernik's lied in his book "A Year in Treblinka" about the size of graves that no graves have been found. Similarly, his false claims about gas chambers being impossible to have been used, he thinks that Wiernik and other eyewitness accounts were liars when they stated that they saw gas chambers at Treblinka.

Deniers cannot prove a single thing. The only thing they have done is show their stupidity to the world.
"It was the first time I had seen Hitler close at hand. Face and head of inferior type, cross-breed; low receding forehead, ugly nose, broad cheekbones, little eyes, dark hair. Expression not of a man exercising authority in perfect self-command, but of raving excitement. At the end an expression of satisfied egotism."

- Max von Gruber's description of Hitler at the Beer Hall Putsch trial in 1923

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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Huntinger » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:31 pm

Even though Turnagain has not, he thinks because he has proven that Wiernik's lied in his book "A Year in Treblinka" about the size of graves that no graves have been found. Similarly, his false claims about gas chambers being impossible to have been used, he thinks that Wiernik and other eyewitness accounts were liars when they stated that they saw gas chambers at Treblinka.
If this genius poster took time to read all the threads properly he may conclude that it is possible that Wiernik was mistaken. There was a post made about a young jΓΌdischer Junge who honestly thought he survived a gassing at Terezin. Honestly I think Wiernik was telling more porkies than on a pork rib. Everyone else gets murdered except him, how convenient.
Deniers cannot prove a single thing. The only thing they have done is show their stupidity to the world.
It is the likes of this somewhat limited intellect that calls people "deniers" when in fact we are just a group of people waiting for credible evidence. We wanna believe like this hoaxer does but our minds do not allow us to due to lack of credible evidence. Anecdotes don't cut the mustard with us. We have no intention of disproving anything, just waiting patiently for hard evidence to come along. Until then the event called the holocaust never happened.
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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Turnagain » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:15 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:59 pm
The elephant in the room for denial is its inability to evidence any alternative for gassings at the AR camps and Birkenau kremas. Deniers think it is sufficient to dismiss the evidence for gassings as false/fake/lies and then claim no gassings. They fail to see the logical and evidential flaws in their argument.

In its simplest form, you cannot claim B took place by claiming A could not have happened because it just sounds too incredible.
In Nessie's universe there's a room with an elephant in it. From the USC film archives and from USHMM records, it's known that thousands of deportees transited through Treblinka. Nessie simply says that doesn't count as evidence that Treblinka was a transit camp. In Nessie's universe, evidence contrary to the holyhoax can't exist. Therefore it doesn't exist. Nessie doesn't consider the evidence that people transited through Treblinka to be evidence that people transited through Treblinka. Can't be. That's contrary to the holyhoax narrative.

There's proof that Wiernik and Rajchman saw no mass graves at Treblinka? Can't be. Such proof can't exist so it doesn't exist. There's proof that human blood and cadavers aren't flammable? Can't be. Such proof can't exist so it doesn't exist. Welcome to Nessie's universe, folks.

No cremains, no graves, no holyhoax. Finito. End of story.

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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Huntinger » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:27 am

Turnagain wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:15 pm
There's proof that Wiernik and Rajchman saw no mass graves at Treblinka? Can't be. Such proof can't exist so it doesn't exist. There's proof that human blood and cadavers aren't flammable? Can't be. Such proof can't exist so it doesn't exist. Welcome to Nessie's universe, folks.
Nothing new here Alaska boy. Apart from his clone, any person who regularly visits knows the incompetence of the person you are debating. His supporters at the Clowns palace reject him. Let him waffle as the "town drunk" he obviously is. If you ignore it, it will go away. He is only here because he is a blowfly.
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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Huntinger » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:30 am

Mr. KnowItAll wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:20 pm
Even though Turnagain has not, he thinks because he has proven that Wiernik's lied in his book "A Year in Treblinka" about the size of graves that no graves have been found.
Graves have been found but not mass graves to support a genocide story. Wiernik lied and anyone who supports such a lying individual should be treated as suspect. This poster seems to lack intellectual acumen or something? do we have a kiddies forum for him to play in?
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Re: Debunking the Holocaust

Post by Turnagain » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:38 am

Huntinger wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:30 am
Mr. KnowItAll wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:20 pm
Even though Turnagain has not, he thinks because he has proven that Wiernik's lied in his book "A Year in Treblinka" about the size of graves that no graves have been found.
Graves have been found but not mass graves to support a genocide story. Wiernik lied and anyone who supports such a lying individual should be treated as suspect. This poster seems to lack intellectual acumen or something? do we have a kiddies forum for him to play in?
Innumeracy seems to be the one common trait among true believers. There is an old joke about mathematics known as "The Redneck rebuttal". It's a play on the formula for determining the area of a circle, A = pi r^2. The rebuttal? "Pie are not square, pie are round. Cornbread are square". These true believers are the quintessential Rednecks. Not only are they innumerate, they seem to take pride in that deficiency. Their innumeracy allows them to accept without reservation the most absurd claims made for the holyhoax. To the true believers, the obviously impossible is merely a matter of, "If it happened, it was possible". Un-effing-believable but there it is.

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