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"Holocaust or Hollow Hoax? 10 Reasons the "Holocaust" Never Happened" DEBUNKED AND WHY IT'S JUST ANOTHER STORMFRONT FAIL

Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Link to the full post here:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/blogs/u151910-e4657/


1) First off, the World Almanac is a general-purposes encyclopedia, and hence is not meant to be taken seriously. However, the part that the Deniers omit, is that these are estimates for 1939. Infact, they cut out that specific part. Gee, could you get more dishonest than that, Stormfront?


2) Most of them were cremated, and the ones found were excavated a long time ago. Where are the bodies of the 100 000 German soldiers dead at Berlin, huh? Funny how he says that not one photo has been authenticated, but then proceeds to show a photo of prisoners barely smiling in a camp? What about the Dachau liberation photo? What about, in general, any photo taken at Auschwitz?


3) No one also claimed that 6 million Jews were gassed, that shows the ignorance of this Stormfront poster. Gassings actually stopped around late-1944, not post 1942-1943. It was possible to gas multiple people at once with gas chambers, it was technically possible.


4) No one claimed 6 million bodies were incinerated in crematorias. People claim that it takes longer now, but they forget to mention that first off, the Germans cremated multiple bodies at once, they broke cremation rules multiple times, rules which otherwise, would have made the process a bore.


5) Lies, papertrail has been found in the forms of reports. The Jager report is a perfect example of the Holocaust being reported, by the Germans. The order was sent by the Fuhrer to his SS-men to form a Final Solution, and that's that. The rest is history, see Wansee, Hoefle telegram et al.


6) Lies, first off:

"Crimes were committed by the Germans under the Hitlerite domination to which they allowed themselves to be subjected which find no equal in scale and wickedness with any that have darkened the human record. The wholesale massacre by systematised processes of six or seven millions of men, women and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough-and-ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale reduces them to pygmy proportions."


The Gathering Storm by Winston Churchill, p. 15-16.

But even if they didn't, so what? They didn't mention Auschwitz, does that mean it didn't exist? They were political leaders, and hence wrote on the military-political side of things.

Blatant dishonesty.


7) HAH! Looks like we have an appeal to eyewitness testimony, but simultaneously, rejecting eyewitness testimony which overwhelmingly stipulates that there were gassings.


8) Lies, a 30-minute visit to Auschwitz where the Red Cross merely talked to Hoess for a little bit means jack squat. Not to mention, the death toll is based on the Record Books, for REGISTERED prisoners. Obviously, little Shlomo who got gassed didn't enter the Books.

9) Illogical argument, the Holocaust death toll is based on demographic data alone, and not some newspapers. Second, you can search for 5 million, 4 million and still get the same results. It's irrelevant, and mostly, has to do with Russia's Jewish population.


10) No one claims 6 million were transported, but let's flip it around. Where WERE the missing 6 Million after the war?



BONUS: A tabloid newspaper which announces an ECONOMIC boycott (much to the dismay of German Jews) of Germany, is NOT a declaration of war.


Invading sovereign states with armies, is though.


Conclusion, Stormfront offers the same old, recycled, rejected arguments.


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Re: "Holocaust or Hollow Hoax? 10 Reasons the "Holocaust" Never Happened" DEBUNKED AND WHY IT'S JUST ANOTHER STORMFRONT

Post by Werd » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:58 pm

Ever heard of quote tags? Use them.
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Post by Huntinger » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:00 pm

I think that Stormfront members have their own reasons for their claims. Seem to be a bunch of neo nazis lurking on there. However, whatever, their claims this whole forum is designed to answer this question. If Jude dying of typhus is a holocaust then so be it.
Ever heard of quote tags? Use them.
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Post by Werd » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:06 pm

Sorry to say but the "quality" of many Stormfront holocaust revisionists is sub-par. I bet very few even bother to read Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno and Friedrich Paul Berg.

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Post by Werd » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:11 pm

DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:24 pm
8) Lies, a 30-minute visit to Auschwitz where the Red Cross merely talked to Hoess for a little bit means jack squat. Not to mention, the death toll is based on the Record Books, for REGISTERED prisoners. Obviously, little Shlomo who got gassed didn't enter the Books.
This one is my favourite response of DISMF. :roll:

He can read this article by Germar Rudolf to see the shoddy scholarship of Danuta Czech who just conjures gassing victims out of thin air.
https://codoh.com/library/document/6509/?lang=en
He can also read a nice critique of Danuta Czech in Carlo Mattogno's book "Healthcare in Auschwitz." Section 6.2 and the entirety of chapter 7. Book totally free online at www.holocausthandbooks.com

As for Wannsee, already discussed and torn apart.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3167

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Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:06 am

Werd wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:58 pm
Ever heard of quote tags? Use them.
I'm too lazy to do so mate.
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Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:06 am

Werd wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:06 pm
Sorry to say but the "quality" of many Stormfront holocaust revisionists is sub-par. I bet very few even bother to read Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno and Friedrich Paul Berg.
Holy scheiss, a factual statement made by a Revisionist? At last, the end is nigh!
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Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:19 am

Werd wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:11 pm
DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:24 pm
8) Lies, a 30-minute visit to Auschwitz where the Red Cross merely talked to Hoess for a little bit means jack squat. Not to mention, the death toll is based on the Record Books, for REGISTERED prisoners. Obviously, little Shlomo who got gassed didn't enter the Books.
This one is my favourite response of DISMF. :roll:

He can read this article by Germar Rudolf to see the shoddy scholarship of Danuta Czech who just conjures gassing victims out of thin air.
https://codoh.com/library/document/6509/?lang=en
He can also read a nice critique of Danuta Czech in Carlo Mattogno's book "Healthcare in Auschwitz." Section 6.2 and the entirety of chapter 7. Book totally free online at www.holocausthandbooks.com

As for Wannsee, already discussed and torn apart.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3167

Obvious Brit is obvious.

I've read them all, and honestly, I don't really care for Danuta Czech. I've never cited her, never brought her up, so why deviate from the argument, which is that the Red Cross didn't do scheiss?


Wannsee was really just about a Final Solution, although gassings took place long before. Here's what really interesting:


"In the east some six million Jew still live, and this question can only be solved in a biological eradication of the entire Jewry of Europe. The Jewish question is only solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew lives on the European continent up to the Urals. ...for this reason it is necessary to expel them over the Urals or eradicate them in some other way." - Alfred Rosenberg on November 15, 1941.


At that time, it was not yet clear as to what the Final Solution would be.

However, Goebbels in his diary reported this on 13 December, 1941:


"Concerning the Jewish question, the Führer is determined to make a clean sweep. He prophesied that, if they were once again to cause a world war, the result would be their own destruction. That was no figure of speech. The world war is here, the destruction of the Jews must be the inevitable consequence.

Hans Frank, who attended this meeting, returned to the General Government and explained what he had learned in Berlin to his district governors and division leaders.

We must put an end to the Jews, that I want to say quite openly. The Führer once spoke these words: If united Jewry should once more succeed in unleashing a world war, then the peoples who have been incited to this war will not be its only victims, because the Jew in Europe will also have found his end. ...Before I continue to speak I would ask you to agree with me on the following principle: we want to have compassion only for the German people, otherwise for no one in the whole world. Others have had no compassion for us. As an old National Socialist, I must also say: if the Jewish tribe were to survive the war in Europe, while we had sacrificed our best blood for Europe's preservation, then this war would be only a partial success. Thus vis-a-vis the Jews I will in principle proceed only on the assumption that they will disappear. They must go. I have entered into negotiations for the purpose of deporting them to the east. In January a large meeting will be convened in the Reich Security Main Office by SS-Obergruppenführer Heydrich. In any case a large migration of Jews will be set in motion.

But what is to happen to the Jews? Do you believe that they will be lodged in settlements in the Ostland? In Berlin we were told: why all this trouble; we cannot use them in the Ostland or the Reichskommissariat either; liquidate them yourselves! Gentlemen, I must ask you, arm yourselves against any thoughts of compassion. We must destroy the Jews, wherever we encounter them and wherever it is possible, in order to preserve the entire structure of the Reich."



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Post by Werd » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:03 pm

DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:19 am
Werd wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:11 pm
He can read this article by Germar Rudolf to see the shoddy scholarship of Danuta Czech who just conjures gassing victims out of thin air.
https://codoh.com/library/document/6509/?lang=en
He can also read a nice critique of Danuta Czech in Carlo Mattogno's book "Healthcare in Auschwitz." Section 6.2 and the entirety of chapter 7. Book totally free online at www.holocausthandbooks.com

As for Wannsee, already discussed and torn apart.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3167
I've read them all,
YOU HAVE DONE NO SUCH THING. YOU HAVE NOT READ ALL THOSE LINKS. STOP LYING!
and honestly, I don't really care for Danuta Czech. I've never cited her, never brought her up, so why deviate from the argument, which is that the Red Cross didn't do scheiss?
Once her fictional gassing victims go out the window, so does the holocaust story. 1+1=2, jackass.
Wannsee was really just about a Final Solution, although gassings took place long before.
Further proof you have not and will not read the topic where I gave Christian Mentel a good thrashing.
"In the east some six million Jew still live, and this question can only be solved in a biological eradication of the entire Jewry of Europe. The Jewish question is only solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew lives on the European continent up to the Urals. ...for this reason it is necessary to expel them over the Urals or eradicate them in some other way." - Alfred Rosenberg on November 15, 1941.
What does this prove? Where is the German original? Let me guess you want to use this context free quote to prove the gas chambers, and then next use the gas chambers to prove the documents? Sorry take your circular reasoning elsewhere.
Goebbels in his diary reported this on 13 December, 1941:


"Concerning the Jewish question, the Führer is determined to make a clean sweep. He prophesied that, if they were once again to cause a world war, the result would be their own destruction. That was no figure of speech. The world war is here, the destruction of the Jews must be the inevitable consequence.
Jews or Jewry or Jewish power? There were many other quotes talking about taking away Jews' power. That doesn't prove a gas chamber holocaust. As it turns out, taking quotes out of context is a nasty habit of you gas chamber mongers.

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=9038

Hans Frank, who attended this meeting, returned to the General Government and explained what he had learned in Berlin to his district governors and division leaders.

We must put an end to the Jews, that I want to say quite openly. The Führer once spoke these words: If united Jewry should once more succeed in unleashing a world war, then the peoples who have been incited to this war will not be its only victims, because the Jew in Europe will also have found his end. ...Before I continue to speak I would ask you to agree with me on the following principle: we want to have compassion only for the German people, otherwise for no one in the whole world. Others have had no compassion for us. As an old National Socialist, I must also say: if the Jewish tribe were to survive the war in Europe, while we had sacrificed our best blood for Europe's preservation, then this war would be only a partial success. Thus vis-a-vis the Jews I will in principle proceed only on the assumption that they will disappear. They must go. I have entered into negotiations for the purpose of deporting them to the east. In January a large meeting will be convened in the Reich Security Main Office by SS-Obergruppenführer Heydrich. In any case a large migration of Jews will be set in motion.

But what is to happen to the Jews? Do you believe that they will be lodged in settlements in the Ostland? In Berlin we were told: why all this trouble; we cannot use them in the Ostland or the Reichskommissariat either; liquidate them yourselves! Gentlemen, I must ask you, arm yourselves against any thoughts of compassion. We must destroy the Jews, wherever we encounter them and wherever it is possible, in order to preserve the entire structure of the Reich."



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Original German quote and original source, please.

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Post by Huntinger » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:43 pm

If united Jewry should once more succeed in unleashing a world war, then the peoples who have been incited to this war will not be its only victims, because the Jew in Europe will also have found his end. ... In any case a large migration of Jews will be set in motion.
This is no different to telling a child that if they play with fire they will sooner or later be burned. The Reich was well aware of the hate of the Jews in parts of Europe which would be unleashed in any war. This is exactly what happened with the progroms in Poland and Hungary. This was intensified in the "fog of war". Indeed there was a large migration of Jude. Shame the Madagascar plan did not work.

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