Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Huntinger » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:10 am

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I would imagine that any samples from the USHMM are totally worthless for scientific examination. There is no way to know what the Jews might do to that hair before turning it over to any 3rd party for analysis. The Jew's willingness to lie and indulge in any and all sorts of chicanery is well known. You can pound the table and demand a sample from the USHMM for as long and loudly as you wish, Hunt, but I would trust the results of the tests on those samples about as far as I can spit.
You are totally correct which is why the chain of evidence must be preserved. They knew about this back then. No doubt the soviets had hair samples. If the integrity of those samples can somehow be verified then they could potentially go to the OPCW for forensic analysis. Any old hair sample could be put in the bag, which would be the Jude recourse. This would be their chance to actually prove people were gassed. As you predicted and I this will not happen. To fail to have done what is normal police procedure even back then brings ultra dark suspicion on their integrity to say the least.
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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Friedrich Paul Berg » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:44 pm

From the homepage of my excellent website at www.nazigassings.com column right:

Homicidal Gas Vans
In 1943 the Soviets held show trials to convince the world that the Germans had been using gas vans to murder Soviet citizens with the exhaust gases from diesel engines. The proceedings at Krasnodar and Kharkov are described in The Verdict. From the indictment for the Krasnodar trial on page 49 we have the following:
Medico-legal experts who exhumed and examined bodies found in an anti-tank ditch near Krasnodar stated in their postmortem findings on 29th June, 1943: “The skin, skeletal muscles and mucous membranes of lips, stomach, intestines, pericardium and peritoneum were either a pale pink or bright cherry colour, also noted in some cases in sections of internal organs such as the kidneys, lungs and heart. Spectroscopic and chemical examinations of the blood and portions of organs removed for biopsy showed that in 523 cases out of 623 bodies, death was caused by carbon monoxide poisoning.” As established by the investigation similar “gas lorries,” which were nicknamed “murder vans,” were used by the Germans for murdering peaceful Soviet citizens not only in Krasnodar but also in Kharkov. These vans, as testified by the German defendants in the present case and also by witnesses who witnessed the crimes committed by the Germans, are large closed trucks of dark grey colour, driven by Diesel engines. The vans are lined inside with galvanized iron and have air-tight folding doors at the back. The floor is equipped with a wooden grating under which passes a pipe with apertures. This pipe is connected to the exhaust pipe of the engine. The exhaust gases of the Diesel engine, containing highly concentrated carbon monoxide, enter the body of the van, causing rapid poisoning and asphyxiation of the people locked up in the van.
Diesel exhaust contains hardly any carbon monoxide, even under heavy engine loads. If the engines had simply been idling (no load on the engine) with the vehicles parked as suggested by the infamous unsigned letter from Becker to Rauff in Nuremberg File PS-501, the carbon monoxide levels would have been practically nil and the exhaust gases would have been harmless except for the heat. Death, if it occurred, would NOT have been from carbon monoxide at all. The Soviet, purported “medico-legal” investigations could have only been a sham.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Turnagain » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:11 am

Still LMAO! JewsEh quotes the stuttering and sputtering from "Holocaust Controversies". If the eeevul Narzis really wanted to murder Jews inside a van, why didn't they just use a van fueled by producer gas? There were hundreds of thousands of producer gas powered trucks available to them so why all the claptrap about "it was diesel no it was gasoline"? A simple open and close valve to divert the fuel, CO, from the engine to the box. At 35%+ CO and a vented box you wouldn't even have to seal the box. Just close the doors. Since CO is odorless and tasteless, park the truck, switch the fuel, go have a cuppa and Bob's your uncle. Sir Gay Romanov and Roberto the nutzoid stutter and stammer about gas versus diesel while diesel exhaust is impossible as shown by Berg and the notion that the Germans would use precious liquid fuel of any kind for the mundane task of execution is completely idiotic.

Sell it down the street, JewsEh. Berg wrecked your diesel gassing vans and gas pots are complete idiocy. The same goes for the engine exhaust gas chambers of the AR camps. Both Zyklon B and liquid fuels were critical war commodities. The notion that the Germans would use either for executions when they had an alternative method in plentiful supply is beyond ludicrous. That makes about as much sense as executions with the electric masturbation machine.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Huntinger » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:56 am

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:
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The Soviet, purported “medico-legal” investigations could have only been a sham.
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Herr Friedrich, es ist uns den angeblich vergasten Menschen und ihren Haarproben zu Ohren gekommen. Es scheint, dass 9 kg Cyanidgas ausgesetztes Haar in die Vereinigten Staaten geschickt wurde. Daraus lässt sich ableiten, dass Haare in Keratin enthalten sind und bereits geringe Mengen an Cyanid zu dauerhaften chemischen Veränderungen führen würden. Mit anderen Worten, die chemisch-forensische Analyse dieses Haares konnte feststellen, ob Cyanid aus Zyklon B tatsächlich die Todesursache war. Ich bin zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt nicht sicher, ob Typhus chemische Veränderungen im Haar hervorrufen würde. Dies ist jedoch auch eine Möglichkeit. Ich denke, das ist ein wahrer Weg für eine legitime Untersuchung.

Herr Friedrich it has been brought to our attention of the alleged gassed people and their hair samples. It appears that 9kg of hair exposed to cyanide gas was sent to the United States. From what can be ascertained is that as hair is keratin, even rather small amounts of exposure to cyanide would cause permanent chemical changes. In other words chemical forensic analysis of that hair could determine if cyanide from Zyklon B was indeed the cause of death. I am uncertain at this stage if typhus would cause chemical changes in hair, but this is also a possibility. I think this is an true avenue for legitimate investigation.
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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by JewsEh1 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:16 am

Turnagain wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:11 am
Still LMAO! JewsEh quotes the stuttering and sputtering from "Holocaust Controversies". If the eeevul Narzis really wanted to murder Jews inside a van, why didn't they just use a van fueled by producer gas? There were hundreds of thousands of producer gas powered trucks available to them so why all the claptrap about "it was diesel no it was gasoline"? A simple open and close valve to divert the fuel, CO, from the engine to the box. At 35%+ CO and a vented box you wouldn't even have to seal the box. Just close the doors. Since CO is odorless and tasteless, park the truck, switch the fuel, go have a cuppa and Bob's your uncle. Sir Gay Romanov and Roberto the nutzoid stutter and stammer about gas versus diesel while diesel exhaust is impossible as shown by Berg and the notion that the Germans would use precious liquid fuel of any kind for the mundane task of execution is completely idiotic.

Sell it down the street, JewsEh. Berg wrecked your diesel gassing vans and gas pots are complete idiocy. The same goes for the engine exhaust gas chambers of the AR camps. Both Zyklon B and liquid fuels were critical war commodities. The notion that the Germans would use either for executions when they had an alternative method in plentiful supply is beyond ludicrous. That makes about as much sense as executions with the electric masturbation machine.
Clearlys you didn’t reads the links I posted . The “ gas vans “ is irrelevants. Berg has beens tryings all of his life to somehows try and prove his weirds claim that’s cause of the gas vans therefores no Holocaust . What crap .

Let’s justs discuss gassings. Are you reallys denying all of the evidence : eyewitnesses, former Nazis , ordinary Germans , forensic evidence , etc ??? Makes no senses.

You sees , that’s the problem withs peoples like you : no matters what evidence is showns to you it is ignored and the underlying reason whys you don’t wants to believe it is because you likes the Nazis.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Huntinger » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:19 am

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Are you reallys denying all of the evidence : eyewitnesses, former Nazis , ordinary Germans , forensic evidence , etc ??? Makes no senses.
What forensic evidence? If you know of some then please present it.
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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Turnagain » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:45 am

Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:19 am
JewsEh1 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:16 am
Are you reallys denying all of the evidence : eyewitnesses, former Nazis , ordinary Germans , forensic evidence , etc ??? Makes no senses.
What forensic evidence? If you know of some then please present it.
The hoaxsters have "eyewitnesses" such as Wiernik and Rajchman and coerced "confessions" from German prisoners or those involved in the postwar Jewdiciary. Never mind such claptrap as the blood of 250,000 Jews, all buried in one giant mass grave some 40 feet deep, accidentally caught fire and burned for an entire night and the next day. Never mind the "eyewitnesses" who claimed that the CO producing engine was a diesel. Never mind the steam chambers and the electric masturbation machine or the underground electric Jew dunking tilt-a-whirl of Belzec. They ALL said that the eeevul Narzis holyhoaxed the poor, sufferink Jews and that is all that matters to JewsEh. It's good enough for holyhoax work.

That and what you said about forensics. Indeed, WHAT forensic evidence? The farcical claims of Sturdy-Colls? What makes no sense is JewsEh insisting that we ignore the mountain of lies told by the "eyewitnesses" and believe the unproved assertions of the hoaxsters. Uneffingbelievable.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by JewsEh1 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:17 am

Turnagain wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:45 am
The hoaxsters have "eyewitnesses" such as Wiernik and Rajchman and coerced "confessions" from German prisoners or those involved in the postwar Jewdiciary. Never mind such claptrap as the blood of 250,000 Jews, all buried in one giant mass grave some 40 feet deep, accidentally caught fire and burned for an entire night and the next day. Never mind the "eyewitnesses" who claimed that the CO producing engine was a diesel. Never mind the steam chambers and the electric masturbation machine or the underground electric Jew dunking tilt-a-whirl of Belzec. They ALL said that the eeevul Narzis holyhoaxed the poor, sufferink Jews and that is all that matters to JewsEh. It's good enough for holyhoax work.

That and what you said about forensics. Indeed, WHAT forensic evidence? The farcical claims of Sturdy-Colls? What makes no sense is JewsEh insisting that we ignore the mountain of lies told by the "eyewitnesses" and believe the unproved assertions of the hoaxsters. Uneffingbelievable.
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all answereds. insteads of refutings anything, you just likes to say the same shit times and times again.

everyone knows you are nazi sympathiser so of courses you will just post drivel that is so boringssssssssssssss to reads. deniers have beens repeatings the same crap for so long now............. i fall asleeps reading the crap you post. but, its still funnys letting you show peoples how ignorant you are.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Huntinger » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:33 am

JewsEh1 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:17 am

all answereds. insteads of refutings anything, you just likes to say the same shit times and times again.

everyone knows you are nazi sympathiser so of courses you will just post drivel that is so boringssssssssssssss to reads. deniers have beens repeatings the same crap for so long now............. i fall asleeps reading the crap you post. but, its still funnys letting you show peoples how ignorant you are.
This post is somewhat off topic. If you find the posts boring then I suggest you do not read them. Now could you kindly prove that at least one Jude was definitely gassed with hard evidence and not anecdotes.. thank you.. :)
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